WOR Secret Anagram - Hoid Gibberish

[Pechvarry]

I reread the passage. By context, I think gibletish is the real target. I wouldn't be surprised if the other word is a red herring.

Plots behind plots...

Edited December 5, 2013 by Pechvarry

[Sart he/him]

Well, the F sound, Y sound, L sound, and one of the G sounds could be glyph (glyf).  That would leave a K sound, G sound, A sound, I sound, and a D sound.  If it was Figglmygrak then it could me Magic Glyph or Glyph Magic, but it is a D sound not an M sound, so no.

 

So, K...G...A...I...D.

 

It looks like you forgot the R in your solution, giving us I..G...D...G...R...A...K

I can form that into...

DARK GIG (gig being a type of spear)

or...

GAG DIRK (dirk being a large dagger/small sword)

 

If we scramble nonsense to noneness (it's not a real word, but it sounds cool), we have ...

noneness shardblade: gag glyph dirk (shardblades silence people?)

or...

noneness shardblade: dark glyph gig (a dark shardblade of some sort?)

 

I'm not sure what this all means, and I'm probably wrong, but it still is a cool translation.

[EmagSamurai]

when looking at "gibletish", the word "blite" jumps out at me.

 

Unfortunately, that leaves sigh, gish, or shig left over. Shiga is a toxin, but that's a bit of a stretch I think.

 

One definition of sigh

(sigh for) literary feel a deep yearning for (someone or something lost, unattainable, or distant

 

I suppose I could try spelling blight correctly We could go with blights which would leave an i, and e. 

 

One more, "is blight" just leaves an e.

 

Shardblade is blight?

Edited December 5, 2013 by EmagSamurai

[PeterAhlstrom he/him]

You are very special people.

[Kersplattle]

I think Peter's comment is best translated as "You are very *special* people". Make your own interpretation of special...

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Okay, this is pretty off-topic but I just noticed it reading Peter's post. Ahlstrom Square(from Mistborn), Peter Ahlstrom. How did I never make that connection before?! XD

[Swimmingly he/him]

You are very special people.

Indeed we are. We are so special we buy things you help create and sell with great fervor, and probably give yourself and Brandon excellent things to laugh over.

[Natans he/him]

 Someone know the holy ritual to summon Ookla the Mokovial  (Mr. Peter) "the Keeper of Brandon Knowledge" to give us some tips =)

 

In times like this I'm really impressed with Mr. Sanderson, WOR is already 3 years old and nobody found this little secret until now, I have to give the man credit for be too awesome  =)

 

So the ritual to summon  Ookla the Mokovial workssssss. Now let me see if the ritual summon one million dollars from the sky works too =)

 

 

I think Peter's comment is best translated as "You are very *special* people". Make your own interpretation of special...

 

Special as in "a little crazy" but good crazy, not kill you in your sleep kind of crazy =)

 

 

Well, I throw in the towel. Let's put this one in the list of question and try ask Brandon in the next signing. Any voluntary?

Edited December 5, 2013 by Ookla the Puro

[marianmi]

So, nobody thinks this comes from Yggdrasil? http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4732-wor-secret-anagram-hoid-gibberish/#entry76893

[Windrunner he/him]

So, nobody thinks this comes from Yggdrasil? http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4732-wor-secret-anagram-hoid-gibberish/#entry76893

 

In my opinion, not in the slightest. Beyond the y sound and the double g's there's not a lot of similarities. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think even the Balderdash --> Shardblade thing is mere coincidence.

[Claincy he/him]

So after reading this I thought I had a clever idea.

I figured there was a good chance that the theorized anagram for Figgldygrak would contain a word from the english language. It might not, but seemed a fair chance. Looking at it further I figure the most restrictive part of the word is the 3 g's. Thought to myself, "That's a lot of g's, this hypothetical word from the english language might well have a 'gg' in it."

 

It doesn't.

 

Feeling quite pleased with my idea I found a list of all words in the english langauge with 'gg' in them. (There are 1061 for anyone who is curious.) Then I wrote a program that would read a list of words from a file and then check if each word could be spelt using the letters from figgldygrak. If it found one it would print out the word followed by all the letters in figgldygrak that it didn't use. I then gave that program all letters in the alphabet with 'gg' in them. Here's what came out:

 

faggy   ildgrk

raggy   fildgk

draggy   filgk

flaggy   idgrk

giggly   fdrak

 

While it would be hilarious if hoid was actually referring to a "giggly drafk" or similar, I highly doubt this is the case.

So in case anyone else was crazy enough to think of and consider trying this, don't bother

 

 

Note: I'm not absolutely certain that my code doesn't have any errors that could be causing it to miss words. But I am 90% sure that it is error free.

 

Edit: For the record, I don't think it's all that likely that it was intentional and the figgldygrak is anything but a nonsense word Brandon came up with. Still fun to see what we can make of it though.

 

Edit 2: Special and proud of it

Edited December 6, 2013 by lord Claincy Ffnord

[Swimmingly he/him]

In my opinion, not in the slightest. Beyond the y sound and the double g's there's not a lot of similarities. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think even the Balderdash --> Shardblade thing is mere coincidence.

An anagram said by a character known for clever puns, trickster riddles, and plottiness, while discussing "pulling things apart and putting them back together in a different order", to another character who's refutation of the anagrammed word is one of the most important plot points in the book, is mere coincidence? Perhaps it's just a red herring or an easter egg, windy my friend, but I very much doubt it's a coincidence. Unless it was unconscious on Brandon's part.

[Windrunner he/him]

I don't think you can unconsciously use a word that's an anagram. I don't even know how that would work. But anyway, if the things that Hoid said seemed to pertain to Shardblades in any way shape or form, I'd be less skeptical. If it had been a made-up word, implying that it was actually a scrambled word, I'd be less skeptical. If figgldygrak was also an anagram for anything, I'd be less skeptical. But none of those things are true. It doesn't even make any sense in-world. Hoid would have said the equivalent Alethi word for balderdash to Dalinar, which wouldn't be an anagram for anything. Perhaps it's an easter egg, I'll concede that. But I doubt it has any real meaning to the plot in any way shape or form.

[Swimmingly he/him]

It's a mystery wrapped in a red herring tucked in an easter egg stuffed rather violently into a cameo

Also, want 7 books or so, then plug the actually nonsensical words from that passage into an anagram solver equipped with the full cast of characters and concepts introduced in the Storm light Archive. If, by the end of the series, none of that works, then Gibletish, the other one, or some anagram of them will be the name of the original holder of Adonalsium. I will bet three truths, the anticipation in an unopened book, and the colour of a deep summer sky on it. Kabsal style. Get Kurk over here to record it.

Edited December 6, 2013 by Swimmingly

[Windrunner he/him]

I'll take that bet.

 

Also that's super poetic, I like it. Especially the unopened book one.

[Swimmingly he/him]

I will also

poison you

Kabsal style if I lose.

[Swimmingly he/him]

Also I have several decades before we find out the name of Adonalsium's holder was (or IS)

[Kurkistan he/him]

It's a mystery wrapped in a red herring tucked in an easter egg stuffed rather violently into a cameo

Also, want 7 books or so, then plug the actually nonsensical words from that passage into an anagram solver equipped with the full cast of characters and concepts introduced in the Storm light Archive. If, by the end of the series, none of that works, then Gibletish, the other one, or some anagram of them will be the name of the original holder of Adonalsium. I will bet three truths, the anticipation in an unopened book, and the colour of a deep summer sky on it. Kabsal style. Get Kurk over here to record it.

 

Well this'll strain my memory... 

[Swimmingly he/him]

Kurkistan Catquisitor, keeper of ill-bonds, holder of oaths: Is such a small bond so hard for thee to know and keep among the others?! Use thou the Bookmark to keep this thread for some few years, or until this matter is done.

[Aether he/him]

So after reading this I thought I had a clever idea.

I figured there was a good chance that the theorized anagram for Figgldygrak would contain a word from the english language. It might not, but seemed a fair chance. Looking at it further I figure the most restrictive part of the word is the 3 g's. Thought to myself, "That's a lot of g's, this hypothetical word from the english language might well have a 'gg' in it."

 

It doesn't.

 

Feeling quite pleased with my idea I found a list of all words in the english langauge with 'gg' in them. (There are 1061 for anyone who is curious.) Then I wrote a program that would read a list of words from a file and then check if each word could be spelt using the letters from figgldygrak. If it found one it would print out the word followed by all the letters in figgldygrak that it didn't use. I then gave that program all letters in the alphabet with 'gg' in them. Here's what came out:

 

faggy   ildgrk

raggy   fildgk

draggy   filgk

flaggy   idgrk

giggly   fdrak

 

While it would be hilarious if hoid was actually referring to a "giggly drafk" or similar, I highly doubt this is the case.

So in case anyone else was crazy enough to think of and consider trying this, don't bother

 

 

Note: I'm not absolutely certain that my code doesn't have any errors that could be causing it to miss words. But I am 90% sure that it is error free.

 

Edit: For the record, I don't think it's all that likely that it was intentional and the figgldygrak is anything but a nonsense word Brandon came up with. Still fun to see what we can make of it though.

 

Edit 2: Special and proud of it

Hey guys! Give this man some up-votes love for going way beyond the extra mile!

 

EDIT: Same goes for the very next post.

Edited December 6, 2013 by Aether

[TaliaRain]

So my program finished overnight. 

 

There is no set of three or fewer words contained in WoK that is an anagram of figgldygrak.

 

More than 3 words is very unlikely given that there are only 3 vowels... so I think this one is busted.

 

Great idea though.

Edited December 6, 2013 by Maximus

[Natans he/him]

So my program finished overnight. 

 

There is no set of three or fewer words contained in WoK that is an anagram of figgldygrak.

 

More than 3 words is very unlikely given that there are only 3 vowels... so I think this one is busted.

 

Great idea though.

 

Here, take my respects for your  troubles friend, you deserve some upvotes for the effort =)

Edited December 7, 2013 by Natans

[Claincy he/him]

Nice. I agree this theory is quite well busted. The only remaining slight possibility is that it is composed in part of a name for something we haven't read yet. (Run the program again on words of radiance once it comes out? )

Edited December 6, 2013 by lord Claincy Ffnord

[Ete'ni]

have you tried other books?

[TaliaRain]

I have not. It's an interesting idea. Hoid appeared in other books as well. One of the Mistbornes I think? also Warbreaker and Elantris. Could be from there.