The Count Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I was just thinking that is it a shame no order has the two surges: Light and Surface Tension. You know where I am going with this.... LIGHTSABERS BABY! What other cool combos of surges can you think of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Lightweaving and Gravity - Pretend you're a flying saucer and fly by people's windows. Friction and Travel - Slide down a hill, teleport to the top, and repeat until you're playing Portal! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Pressure & Transformation: Stockpile some stormlight Soulcast cheap stuff into carbon Use stormlight to apply high pressure to that carbon and turn it into diamond Use diamond to capture even more stormlight Repeat the process ??? Infinite diamonds and infinite reserve of stormlight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I don't know about a combination, but I was imagining ways to make things invisible and wondering if there was a certain combination required, and decided it might be possible for two individual surges to do this on their own. Light: depending on the meaning of this surge you might be able to control and direct it to make the light that bounces from an object stop short of someone's eyes (could be used to conceal things at certain distances, which I like the concept of). Gravity: A bit more conceptual in terms of my own understanding, but IIRC, an object can have such high gravitational force that it literally pulls light back into itself and light is unable to escape it. That could make it so gravity can manipulate the invisibility of things, or even just slow the rate at which things are seen... like how we see the image of the sun from 7ish seconds late (that is a property of distance, but I'm describing the effect, not the cause.)Just some thoughts that seem a little more relevant here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Growth+Division=Cloning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refero Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 My Physics is fashionably pathetic, but could it be possible for a Windrunner to use "Pressure" and "Gravity" to increase gravity in a certain area like the training chambers in Dragon Ball Z? Growth+Division=Cloning I suppose we would've had a Clone War subplot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknowingly Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 You know everything you guys are theorizing is thoeritically possible through the use of hemalurgy. If you made enough spikes and knew the right places to put them, you could make a Super Radiant! Some one capable of using every and all types of surge and surge combination Brandon has confirmed that hemalurgy is cosmer wide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted October 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 You know everything you guys are theorizing is thoeritically possible through the use of hemalurgy. If you made enough spikes and knew the right places to put them, you could make a Super Radiant! Some one capable of using every and all types of surge and surge combination Brandon has confirmed that hemalurgy is cosmer wide! I don't know... ability to use surges is dependent on having a spren. (I know... I know... Szeth does not have a spren... lets assume he is a special case and move on ) Anyway... can a spike steal someones spren and forcibly bind it to them? Now that is an interesting question... I will ask it if I ever get to go to a signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morsk Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hemallurgy had better work, or else my plan to create Nyan Cats by giving Windrunning and Lightweaving to cats is in serious trouble. And without Nyan Cats to fight them, the Catquisitors will rule unopposed. I wouldn't want to live in that kind of world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I think a world with casual Hemallurgy would be a far more frightening place to live than one ruled by Catquistors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deddinty Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Now there's a scary thought, Szeth got his powers through hemallurgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianmi Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wonder if using Light you could make yourself invisible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindillusions Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Hmm. I wonder...would a combination of Transformation/Growth create Mystique? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) I wonder if using Light you could make yourself invisible I had a theory about that in this very thread! 'http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4332-what-a-shame-bit-of-fun/?p=68163' Edited October 24, 2013 by bloodfalcon2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianmi Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yup invisibility seems very plausible... Also, with surface tension, could you walk on water? Because soulcasting water into wine looks pretty easy. SURFACE TENSION + TRANSFORMATION = JESUS 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloom Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yup invisibility seems very plausible... Also, with surface tension, could you walk on water? Because soulcasting water into wine looks pretty easy. SURFACE TENSION + TRANSFORMATION = JESUS Odd, when I think of the lore surrounding Jesus, I can think of a few more miracles than that. Raising the dead seems like kind of a big deal, feeding thousands with a couple of fish and a few loaves of bread seems pretty impressive as well. Cursing a tree and causing it to wither seems kind of out of the ordinary. Curing leprosy, the blind, and the infirm is kind of mundane after raising the dead, but might be worthy of a footnote. Lets see, oh, rebuking a storm and having it instantly calm is kind of a neat trick as well. I suppose exorcisms and slapping around a few demons is somewhat abstract, but he was reported to have done this as well. Yeah, I don't think surface tension and transformation will be enough to actually be Jesus, might be able to put on a good impersonation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I don't know... ability to use surges is dependent on having a spren. (I know... I know... Szeth does not have a spren... lets assume he is a special case and move on ) Anyway... can a spike steal someones spren and forcibly bind it to them? Now that is an interesting question... I will ask it if I ever get to go to a signing I imagine you could still spike the abilities without getting the spren, spiking a Metalborn doesn't give you a piece of Lerasium, it just gives you the spiritual connection which allows you to utilize the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Odd, when I think of the lore surrounding Jesus, I can think of a few more miracles than that. Raising the dead seems like kind of a big deal, feeding thousands with a couple of fish and a few loaves of bread seems pretty impressive as well. Cursing a tree and causing it to wither seems kind of out of the ordinary. Curing leprosy, the blind, and the infirm is kind of mundane after raising the dead, but might be worthy of a footnote. Lets see, oh, rebuking a storm and having it instantly calm is kind of a neat trick as well. I suppose exorcisms and slapping around a few demons is somewhat abstract, but he was reported to have done this as well. Yeah, I don't think surface tension and transformation will be enough to actually be Jesus, might be able to put on a good impersonation though. But don't you think that I know that walking on the water won't make me a miracle man? - Elvis Costello from Miracle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianmi Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Is Szeth's sword a hem spike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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