Favorite Star Wars movies?

[Briar King]

I dislike the prequels because they were all over the place. Lucas decided he had to explain the origin of everything, when really all we needed to see was the origin story of Darth Vader. Had the prequels been more focused, & had Darth Maul lived till episode 3 only to die at the hands of the newly crowned Darth Vader I would have enjoyed them more.

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[Briar King]

Being old, I grew up with the original trilogy. These were my favorite childhood movies which I watched over and over and over again. The Empire Strikes Back has always been my favorite mainly because it is darker and it ends bad. I also liked the Return of the Jedi: young me thought the Ewoks were hilarious

I am not found of the new trilogy. Nothing worked in it for me. I hated the idea of starting it up with Anakin as a child in a movie made as a plot device for a video game. The other movies were better, but not much. I never felt the love story between Anakin and Padme. The last movie also broke from canon as Leia clearly talks of remembering her mother to Luke in movie number 6.

I am actually excited over the new trilogy. The previews look amazing. Now I have to convince my husband this would make a nice date night for us...

Yep this goes to what I said up thread: he basically took a giant dump on his own self and especially US.... No one could tell him his changes were harming the story...he wouldn't listen or care. I ll try to find a Game Informer article that said he would name one of the Darths in the planned Maul game before sale Darth Icky.

[Kaymyth she/her]

I just watched episode III again, and I loved it.

My new list:

1. Empire Strikes Back

2. Revenge of the Sith

3. Return of the Jedi

4. A New Hope

5. Attack of the Clones

6. Phantom Menace

 

I loved the emotion in episode III. I mean, seriously. Have you seen Luke, seeing the corpses of his aunt and uncle and not even changing his expression? My favorite line in all of Star Wars is:

 

"You were the Chosen One!" - Obi-Wan Kenobi, Episode III

 

That line conveyed so much frustration and sadness as Obi-Wan turns away from the new Sith Vader. These movies are my favorite 6 movies. My favorite video game is a Star Wars game. My favorite TV show is (please don't judge me, their are good episodes, try season 5 finale) the Clone Wars. My favorite toys as a child were lego Star Wars sets.

 

Star Wars is my favorite franchise by far, and I can't bear it when people hate on my favorite prequels. I get it, haters gotta hate, but please do it somewhere else.

 

(Wow, I sound so serious. Gotta say something random...potato in a minefield)

 

Poor Obi-Wan.  He never really understood what the Council suspected - yes, Anakin was the Chosen One.  What was he chosen to do?  Bring "balance" to the Force.

 

Guess which side was overpowered and thus unbalancing things?  Yep.  The Light side.  So as Darth Vader, he tracked down and killed most of the Jedi Order.  Eventually he killed Obi-Wan, and ultimately turned on the Emperor and killed him, too.  He wiped the entire slate clean of every Force-user that was alive at the time of his birth.

 

Yeah, he brought balance to the Force, alright.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Kaymyth

[WayneSpren he/him]

Poor Obi-Wan.  He never really understood what the Council suspected - yes, Anakin was the Chosen One.  What was he chosen to do?  Bring "balance" to the Force.

 

Guess which side was overpowered and thus unbalancing things?  Yep.  The Light side.  So as Darth Vader, he tracked down and killed most of the Jedi Order.  Eventually he killed Obi-Wan, and ultimately turned on the Emperor and killed him, too.  He wiped the entire slate clean of every Force-user that was alive at the time of his birth.

 

Yeah, he brought balance to the Force, alright.

I never understood the Prophecy until now. I guess the Jedi were pretty OP (there were like a thousand of them and two sith) before the Jedi Purge.

[Kaymyth she/her]

I never understood the Prophecy until now. I guess the Jedi were pretty OP (there were like a thousand of them and two sith) before the Jedi Purge.

 

Ayup.  Puts Yoda trying to refuse to admit him into training into an entirely new light, doesn't it?

[Briar King]

I never understood the Prophecy until now. I guess the Jedi were pretty OP (there were like a thousand of them and two sith) before the Jedi Purge.

There were about 10K during ep 1.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Makes you wonder why Yoda didn't just set about balancing things out within the Jedi ranks, though. Everyone looked to him for wisdom. He could've easily told his colleagues "Been too unfair to the Sith, we have. Persecute a religious minority, is what we have done, basically. Discover the benefits of the Dark Side, we must, without becoming evil." 

 

And if someone asked "FOR THE LOVE OF THE FORCE, WHY?" Yoda could've just said "SLAUGHTERED BY AN ANNOYING LITTLE HELLCHILD NAMED ANAKIN WE WILL BE, IF WE DO NOT DO THIS!" 

[WayneSpren he/him]

Makes you wonder why Yoda didn't just set about balancing things out within the Jedi ranks, though. Everyone looked to him for wisdom. He could've easily told his colleagues "Been too unfair to the Sith, we have. Persecute a religious minority, is what we have done, basically. Discover the benefits of the Dark Side, we must, without becoming evil." 

 

And if someone asked "FOR THE LOVE OF THE FORCE, WHY?" Yoda could've just said "SLAUGHTERED BY AN ANNOYING LITTLE HELLCHILD NAMED ANAKIN WE WILL BE, IF WE DO NOT DO THIS!" 

Yoda may not have understood the prophecy either.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Yoda may not have understood the prophecy either.

No, but working off the theory that he had an inkling of its true meaning, it makes one wonder why he didn't do more to stop it. Or at least share his suspicions with his colleagues.

[Briar King]

In essence he had to be dumbed down in prequels.

Vision wise at least.

Edited September 20, 2015 by Briar King

[Blaze1616 he/him]

I...I think you've all misunderstood the prophecy. I mean, perhaps you're right, but that's not how I understood it at all.

 

Vader does bring balance to the Force. He just does it 20 years later than expected. Luke doesn't kill the Emperor. Vader does. Vader, in one change of heart on a dying Death Star II, removed both acting Sith Lords from the Galaxy.

 

Expanded Universe Spoilers below:

At least when confined to the movies, as in the EU the Emperor had clones of himself that would become active upon his death. Also, even though Disney retconned the EU, we know from trailers for Episode VII that they are keeping the Sith alive as well.

 

I'm 99% certain that's what Lucas intended the prophecy to mean, considering he's got this insane notion that the Star Wars saga is about Vader, and not Luke.

 

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As for Prequel haters, I wouldn't hate on them if they didn't deserve it. As stated before, Episode I was a catastrophe. Qui-Gon is the most anti-Jedi, that's still accepted by the council, that I've ever known. The Trade Federation's decisions regarding the occupation of Naboo were all incredibly poor, and proved them to all be idiots and not intelligent business men, which puts cracks into the suspension of my disbelief. Said suspension of disbelief was then completely obliterated when child Anakin just so happens to perform a series of accidents that results in him partaking in the space battle, and being the deciding factor in its outcome - Why was there a child sized helmet in the cockpit? Why doesn't R2, the shown to be intelligent droid, do anything to stop him? Why doesn't anyone else partaking in the battle bother to comment on it?

 

Oh, and the pod race. I hate the pod race. Having an action sequence just for the sake of an action sequence is not a good thing. Action sequences don't make movies good on their own. Let's also not forget to note that there is no tension during the pod race because the only character partaking who we care about, Anakin, has script protection, because he has to live to become Vader. The pod race was actually pointless, and a waste of my time.

 

Other things about Episode I that I won't bother detailing: the terrible acting by both Jake Lloyd and Natalie Portman, though thankfully Portman got her crap together for the next two films; the Gungans, as a whole and not just Jar-Jar; the incredibly confusing Padme switcheroos that actually make no tactical sense; the lack of developing Darth Maul, turning him into a terrible villain because he died in the same movie he was very poorly introduced during, and the universe would be no different were he to not exist; the oddity that is Naboo electing a 14 year old to be their Queen, as well as the fact that they use monarchy terms in a political system that is not a monarchy, though to be fair Naboo not being a monarchy isn't revealed until Episode II, if my memory serves; and finally that odd and mildly disturbing romance between a 14 year old Padme and a 9 year old Anakin.

 

I've also left out a lot of the very minor details, such as Qui-Gon knowing what kind of poison the white gas is in the beginning of the movie, C3PO being no help to Anakin's mother because he's a protocol droid, and Obi-Wan's lack of intelligence during the Darth Maul fight (YOU'VE USED FORCE SPRINT BEFORE IN THIS MOVIE!!!!). I would hope by this point that it's needless to say that there is even more things wrong with the film that I'm not going to bother bringing up, particularly because I've mostly ignored the "plot" of the movie thus far.

 

Episode II was better. Note: not good, but better. Episode III, then, was a good action movie, and a decent Star Wars movie.

 

I will give credit where credit is due. First, as has been mentioned, McGregor did a swell job as Obi-Wan. Easily the most sympathetic character across the two films, though Padme beats him out in Episode III if we ignore Episode II. Second, Anakin's downfall was fairly well portrayed in Episode III. Rather than rapidly descending into the dark side of the Force, his descent is slow and agonizing, like all the best tragic heroes. Lastly, the score is beyond excellent. Williams, as usual, outperforms much of his competition. But let's not pretend that the score makes the movie. It merely has the power to enhance it. In the end, a bad movie with a good score is still a bad movie, you just so happen to get to listen to good music while watching it.

 

Obviously, this post is rife with my opinions. Opinions which you are more than welcome to disagree with. But let's please avoid labeling all of us who dislike the films as "haters." Though I'm sure there are those who dislike the films simply because they perceive it as cool to do so, widely stereotyping and labeling is never a good practice to exercise. 

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

So far as Episode I goes, watch the movie (IF you haven't seen it yet; if you have just go by memory) and then listen to Weird Al's "The Saga Begins." When Weird Al tells the story better and more concisely than a two-hour movie, without forgetting any major plot points, it's not a very good movie.

Edited September 21, 2015 by TwiLyghtSansSparkles

[Kaymyth she/her]

I...I think you've all misunderstood the prophecy. I mean, perhaps you're right, but that's not how I understood it at all.

 

Vader does bring balance to the Force. He just does it 20 years later than expected. Luke doesn't kill the Emperor. Vader does. Vader, in one change of heart on a dying Death Star II, removed both acting Sith Lords from the Galaxy.

 

Expanded Universe Spoilers below:

At least when confined to the movies, as in the EU the Emperor had clones of himself that would become active upon his death. Also, even though Disney retconned the EU, we know from trailers for Episode VII that they are keeping the Sith alive as well.

 

I'm 99% certain that's what Lucas intended the prophecy to mean, considering he's got this insane notion that the Star Wars saga is about Vader, and not Luke.

 

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Well, it wouldn't be the first time I've disagreed with Lucas on his own creation.  "Balance" would suggest that the Light and Dark sides should hold equal weight.  So Vader had to wipe out the Jedi before killing the Emperor in order to balance things. 

 

Also, Han shot first!

[Blaze1616 he/him]

Also, Han shot first!

 

This is easily the most upsetting edit to the original trilogy for me. By making Han shoot second, you've completely altered the audience's first interaction with the character. Han is a scoundrel, a smuggler, and an all around bad boy, who over the course of the film turns into a hero. He's not some paragon of virtue from the get-go.

[Kaymyth she/her]

This is easily the most upsetting edit to the original trilogy for me. By making Han shoot second, you've completely altered the audience's first interaction with the character. Han is a scoundrel, a smuggler, and an all around bad boy, who over the course of the film turns into a hero. He's not some paragon of virtue from the get-go.

 

Also, he's not stupid.  If you know someone is gonna shoot you, you don't sit there like an idiot and wait politely for them to go first.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Also, he's not stupid. If you know someone is gonna shoot you, you don't sit there like an idiot and wait politely for them to go first.

The kind of man who answers "I love you" with "I know" isn't the sort of gentleman who politely allows a violent assailant the first shot.

[ThirdGen]

I had been planning, back when Episode III was about to come out, to then go and rewatch the originals to see how the story felt with all this new info.  I got like 10 minutes into Star Wars and went, "But wait!  They never wiped R2's memory.  He knows who everyone is!"  and then a half dozen other little plot holes piled up and I cursed Lucas for ruining Star Wars!

 

Years passed and I forgot most of the side details of the prequels, and could thus watch the real ones again with them safely un-canon.

[Voidus]

I am going to likely tank my reputation ranking from third to somewhere around 1,000,000th for this but I actually prefer the prequels in a lot of ways and of them phantom menace is not my least favourite attack of the clones is.

[Blaze1616 he/him]

I am going to likely tank my reputation ranking from third to somewhere around 1,000,000th for this but I actually prefer the prequels in a lot of ways and of them phantom menace is not my least favourite attack of the clones is.

 

Yes but we all know you're insane 

[Voidus]

Yes but we all know you're insane 

That's just a vicious rumour spread about by all my other personalities and the secret FBI spies who follow me around. 

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

1. Empire Strikes Back 

2. A New Hope

3. Return of the Jedi 

 

 

I have no idea why you listed six. Only the original trilogy exists.

 

This...so much i cannot even.

 

Whilst I may not severely hate the non-existent prequels, I would have preferred, if they were to be reality, that they actually be cohesive and coherent. Nothing more vexing than inconsistencies in canon Lore (Wildhammer fact checker knows what i'm talking about).

 

But if prequels were to be accepted as legit corporeal things, my list would look like this;

 

1. Return of the Jedi

2/3. Empire Strikes Back

2/3. A New Hope

4. Revenge of the Sith

5. Attack of the Clones

6. Phantom Menace

 

Granted, the original trilogy has its own inconsistencies but they're aren't as bad as the prequel trilogy that must not be named. Lucas should take a leaf out of Brandon's book (haha) and make a wiki for this sorta thing

Edited September 21, 2015 by ParadoxSpren