Kingkiller Chronicle

[Hood he/him]

I sometimes wonder, what if Kvothe has become a Chandrian. But that is just too weird.

 

Though, I do think, there's something with Auri (after reading The Slow Regard of Silent Things).

[Infinite Citadel]

I didn't even realize there were two short stories outside of Day 1 or Day 2. *makes a note to buy them*

[Dunkum he/him]

I didn't even realize there were two short stories outside of Day 1 or Day 2. *makes a note to buy them*

I would recommend looking into "The Slow Regard for Silent Things" a bit before buying it.  I loved it, but navybrandt hated it, and it definitely is weird enough that I wouldn't recommend it to everyone.

[Hood he/him]

I didn't even realize there were two short stories outside of Day 1 or Day 2. *makes a note to buy them*

Don't be so quick. Rothfuss wrote his famous line regarding The Slow Regard for Silent Things for some reason. By the way, I've mixed feelings for the book. In the beginning I liked it, but then I grew quite frustrated. However, I did finish it. Not as good as book 2, imo.

[Argent he/him]

Hohoho, guess who landed a TV show + movie + video game deal with Lionsgate!

[ccstat he/him]

Just saw that! I have high hopes for this.

Also, (having only skimmed this thread) I am wondering what this group thought of the Lightning Tree novella. I have very limited reading time currently, and an trying to decide what to prioritize on my to-read list.

For reference, I loved both Day 1 and Day 2, but I've only read them each once. Auri is my favorite character, so it's no surprise that I thought Slow Regard was beautiful. Bast, on the other hand, doesn't intrigue me much or inspire a lot of sympathy (yet--I rather expect Day 3 to change my mind eventually) so a novella centered on him doesn't immediately excite.

Edited October 2, 2015 by ccstat

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Hohoho, guess who landed a TV show + movie + video game deal with Lionsgate!

I was just about to share this too!

[Argent he/him]

Also, (having only skimmed this thread) I am wondering what this group thought of the Lightning Tree novella. I have very limited reading time currently, and an trying to decide what to prioritize on my to-read list.

For reference, I loved both Day 1 and Day 2, but I've only read them each once. Auri is my favorite character, so it's no surprise that I thought Slow Regard was beautiful. Bast, on the other hand, doesn't seem intrigue me much or inspire a lot of sympathy (yet--I rather expect Day 3 to change my mind eventually) so a novels centered on him doesn't immediately excite.

 

The Lightning Tree offers some insight into who he is (in terms of character, not history), how he sees the world, and what happens inside his head. I found it... educational.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Is there anywhere to get The Lightning Tree without the anthology it comes in?

[Dunkum he/him]

not that i'm aware of.  I lucked out and found the anthology at a used book sale for somethign like $1.50.  For reference, I would recommend a. the anthology itself, which I thought was pretty great and b. the lightning tree story which paints a much more interesting picture of bast than the two novels manage with their brief glimpses.

 

I've said it before, I think, but I kind of like Slow Regard and Lightning Tree better than the main stories. 

[Sera]

I liked The Slow Regard for Silent Things. Besides being happy to get a taste of his writing again, I found the fact that many of these inanimate objects were better characterized than the protagonists of other books I've read really amusing. Still didn't read The Lightning Tree. The one book by him I didn't like was The Wise Man's Fear.

 

Not sure about how I feel about the TV show/movie news. His prose is a big part of what makes his books so engaging. You'd need a really competent writer and producer to successfully transpose that to the screen.

Edited October 3, 2015 by Sera

[SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him]

Hopefully by the time the movies and what not are being produced he will have finished the last book. If he hasn't then I'd say it would be another GoT situation with the shows getting ahead of the books. 

[Zathoth]

So... I really need to read these books, right?

[SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him]

So... I really need to read these books, right?

 

If you do I would almost recommend starting with the second book. I read the second book first because my sister bought it for me and didn't realise that it was a sequel. I liked it but when I got my hands on the first book and reread the second my opinion changed and not for the better.

 

Though I still think that they are very good books.

[Sera]

Meanwhile, I advise to start it in the proper order, sticking with the first book, hahaha. I felt the second book lacked a slightly more heavy-handed editing, and sometimes I simply didn't enjoy where the plot was going. Taste is a subjective and personal thing, but I suspect SmurfAquamarineBodies experienced the "same-plot fatigue" on top of that, but in inverted order. Most people feel that on the second book, since it's the second book of the series they read.

 

In any case, it's interesting to hear it can be read outside the right order. I've accidentally done the same mistake once, with another series (and it also worked well this way).

[Zathoth]

Thank you both. I pretty much decided to read them already, so soon I can join you in waiting for the third book XD

[Hood he/him]

The TV series should be as good as Game of Thrones. I have high hopes for it.

 

By the way, long time readers, has anyone wondered, where is Kote's inn situated ?? It says Newarre, as far as I know, but still in which dominion does it lie ?

[Shardbearer he/him]

I think there's a line somewhere in the books referencing the inn as being in the middle of Newarre.

 

The Middle of Nowhere.

 

Anyway, I recently read the NotW and WMF. Great reads!

 

I've just been through this whole thread and never gave any thought to any of these theories. Now I'm more excited for Day 3.

[Hood he/him]

I read the TOR speculations thread (there are many more), where one theory is that Newarre lies to the west of Vintas.

 

I think because, the demons come from the mountains. And anything done to university is not known. Now, the taxes are raised by "the King". And Kote expresses surprise when he first sees the demon, saying that they've come that far from the mountains.

 

Mind you, I do not have the book right now. So I could be wrong at some points.

[Zathoth]

Ok, just finished Name of the wind.

 

Holy storms that was a great book. Loved it. I will probably wait for a while until I pick up The wise mans fear though, partly because I dont feel like waiting five years for Day 3 and partly because I need something lighter to read after an epic like that.

[Zea mays]

*From my breath to yours; arise O thread*

I resurrect this because apparently an adaptation is in the (early stages of the) works, and Lin Manuel Miranda is on board.

Gorsh, are we looking at some species of... musical?

 

I do hope everyone involved feels certain that book 3 will be out before it's time to film it.

[Zathoth]

Considering how musical King Killer Chronicles are I can see it working out. I am not sure how they are going to turn them into films,  They are very slow books, not a lot of action, you would need absolutely top notch cinematography to make up for the lack of Pat's prose and how are they going to fit NOTW in one book?

I am skeptical, could work, but I am skeptical.

[Andy92]

I'm about halfway through The Slow Regard of Silent Things. Question for those who have read it:

Spoiler

Is Auri a natural Shaper? The 100 pages I've read have basically all been about her putting objects in their proper places. In the series there's a distinct difference between Namers and Shapers. Kvothe seems to be a natural Namer, knowing the name of the wind, giving Auri her new name, etc. But in this book, I've been getting the vibe that Auri is a natural Shaper. She has a knack for knowing the way the worlds needs to be, at least in her own mind. I wondered if anyone else thought this was the message Rothfuss was trying to convey with this story. 

 

Edited August 17, 2017 by Andy92

[ccstat he/him]

On 8/17/2017 at 4:27 PM, Andy92 said:

I'm about halfway through The Slow Regard of Silent Things. Question for those who have read it:

I recently re-read Slow Regard (along with both Day One and Day Two), and my opinion on this was a bit different after each reading. I'm not sure which way Rothfuss intended it to be read, but I think the ambiguity is at least partially intentional.

Spoiler

My first time reading Slow Regard, I thought the message was primarily about accepting people on their own terms, and that most of Auri's sense for the shape of the world was projected from her own mind, rather than an actual awareness of the objects around her. This second time through, I found a lot of evidence for her perception being accurate. She is quite clearly a skilled alchemist, and I think that the "anger" and other attributes she identifies in objects relate to the alchemical properties she senses in them. With that in mind, her sense for the shape of the world seems real. 

If that is what you are meaning by Shaper, then I agree with you. As I recall the term Shaper used in the books, though, that was the faction from the creation war that sought to change things and impose their will on the world, to make what they wanted. That is fundamentally opposite to what Auri does, so even if she has the natural ability that could make her a Shaper in that sense, she is not at all the sort of person who could become one (and would in fact fight against that mindset if given the chance).

 

[Andy92]

4 hours ago, ccstat said:

I recently re-read Slow Regard (along with both Day One and Day Two), and my opinion on this was a bit different after each reading. I'm not sure which way Rothfuss intended it to be read, but I think the ambiguity is at least partially intentional.

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My first time reading Slow Regard, I thought the message was primarily about accepting people on their own terms, and that most of Auri's sense for the shape of the world was projected from her own mind, rather than an actual awareness of the objects around her. This second time through, I found a lot of evidence for her perception being accurate. She is quite clearly a skilled alchemist, and I think that the "anger" and other attributes she identifies in objects relate to the alchemical properties she senses in them. With that in mind, her sense for the shape of the world seems real. 

If that is what you are meaning by Shaper, then I agree with you. As I recall the term Shaper used in the books, though, that was the faction from the creation war that sought to change things and impose their will on the world, to make what they wanted. That is fundamentally opposite to what Auri does, so even if she has the natural ability that could make her a Shaper in that sense, she is not at all the sort of person who could become one (and would in fact fight against that mindset if given the chance).

 

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I'd have to do some more research on what Shapers could actually do, from a magic standpoint. You are correct in that the Shapers during the creation war wanted to change the world to their own desires, which is opposite of what Auri wants to do. But, I think it's possible that the magic of Shaping can be used for good. I think Shaping can be used to take something out of place and move it to its correct place, which is exactly what Auri does. The ones in the creation war story were using the power for selfish intentions whereas I believe Shaping itself is a neutral kind of power, if that makes sense. 

Rothfuss purposely makes his magic systems kind of vague, but I do know there is a distinct difference between Naming and Shaping that will probably play a large role in the last book.