spencer12347 he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Here is the link http://www.tor.com/2015/07/01/excerpt-brandon-sanderson-shadows-of-self-chapter-two/ 3
natc Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Parts are from an older excerpt of this chapter I recall reading. Many parts were not there before. That I like. Also, we have a Father Demoux in the wedding planning conversation. 1
WeiryWriter he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Possible error, when Steris is describing possible interruptions she mentions "Or Father Bin will inexplicably turn out to be an old enemy and try to murder you instead of performing the ceremony." but later she mentions that Wax needs to ask if Father Demoux will perform the ceremony?
spencer12347 he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Author Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Possible error, when Steris is describing possible interruptions she mentions "Or Father Bin will inexplicably turn out to be an old enemy and try to murder you instead of performing the ceremony." but later she mentions that Wax needs to ask if Father Demoux will perform the ceremony? The Father Bin thing could have just been a joke. Edited July 1, 2015 by spencer12347
Argent he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I am mildly concerned about the amount of namedrops in those last couple of chapters. But only mildly, because there is a very specific cognitive bias that could be at work here...
MoS03 Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 In the hallway with the metal filing cabinet, did Wax forget his Feruchemy? A quick weight change would have changed things drastically. I actually yelled at my phone while I read that part like he was a teenage girl tripping while running away in a bad horror film.
Titan Arum Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I figure I should write one of these things, the small book read. To tell my side. Not the side the historians will tell for me. I doubt they’ll get it right. I don’t know that I’d like them to anyhow. I know Saze doesn’t approve of what I’ve done, the book continued. But what did he expect me to do? Knowing what I know… I couldn’t let it die, the book read. It’s not right. Hemalurgy is good now, I figure. Saze is both sides now, right? Ruin isn’t around anymore. We can use it. We should. Shouldn’t we? The ethics of hemalurgy...written by Spook? Who else, following the Great Catacendre and the Last Ascension would know anything about hemalurgy? Also, we know that the person who wrote this book is very friendly with Sazed because they use his nickname. I'm super glad that the morality of hemalurgy is being assessed. It's a question I've always pondered. The version of hemalurgy by the LTR, in my opinion, is unethical due to its requirement of death to yield an end-negative form of investiture that decays. But is there a better way now that there's Harmony? How many copies of this book exist? How many other people have an idea about hemalurgy? Have people been experimenting with it, as a result? I can't wait to read this book!
spencer12347 he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Author Posted July 1, 2015 @Titan arum it is the book that marsh gave Marisa
Titan Arum Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 @Titan arum it is the book that marsh gave Marisa Ahh that's right. It's been awhile since I've read AoL. I should go re-read that now... So we can probably assume that Marsh is the author.
PeterAhlstrom he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Possible error, when Steris is describing possible interruptions she mentions "Or Father Bin will inexplicably turn out to be an old enemy and try to murder you instead of performing the ceremony." but later she mentions that Wax needs to ask if Father Demoux will perform the ceremony? They're using an old version of the chapter. That was already fixed. Edited July 1, 2015 by PeterAhlstrom 2
Argent he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Marsh is the one with the knowledge, but the writing doesn't sound like him at all... 1
Titan Arum Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Marsh is the one with the knowledge, but the writing doesn't sound like him at all... I agree with you, it does not sound like Marsh. Marsh wasn't really part of the crew like the others were and probably would never have called Sazed by his nickname. Whoever wrote the book was obviously very familiar with Sazed before the Last Ascension. Which is why I immediately suspected Spook. Spook knew Sazed quite well and they had a mutual respect for each other after Urteau. And he was knowledgeable about hemurlurgy and recognized that it was mostly a way for Ruin to control him or persuade him despite the powers it provided. Just like the passage in Chapter 2 seems to describe. The only problem with this argument is that Spook wouldn't really know that much about spike placement and the different powers one could receive based upon the type of spike and the location of the spike. 2
ljósmóður she/her Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 I agree with you, it does not sound like Marsh. Marsh wasn't really part of the crew like the others were and probably would never have called Sazed by his nickname. Whoever wrote the book was obviously very familiar with Sazed before the Last Ascension. Which is why I immediately suspected Spook. Spook knew Sazed quite well and they had a mutual respect for each other after Urteau. And he was knowledgeable about hemurlurgy and recognized that it was mostly a way for Ruin to control him or persuade him despite the powers it provided. Just like the passage in Chapter 2 seems to describe. The only problem with this argument is that Spook wouldn't really know that much about spike placement and the different powers one could receive based upon the type of spike and the location of the spike. I think it is Spook writing. You're right that it doesn't sound like Marsh at all. Spook had Sazed's (quite weighty, if I recall correctly, it's been a while since I read HoA) written record of events, it's possible there was something in there. And, I assumed he was Lord Mistborn for quite a number of years so plenty of time to do some research about it or maybe even chat to Ironeyes himself. He does seem the most likely candidate for author. 1
Argent he/him Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 It also fits the sentiment that history will probably not get his version of the events right. History will remember the Lord Mistborn, a figure of legend, while Spook was, well, Spook until the Last Ascension. The crew's Tineye. 1
ccstat he/him Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) All this speculation has me confused. I thought that Spook's authorship of the book had been confirmed back when AoL came out. I do like the changes since the preview chapter. The fight/chase scene is great, and I still think Wayne is awesome. Edited July 2, 2015 by ccstat 2
WeiryWriter he/him Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 All this speculation has me confused. I thought that Spook's authorship of the book had been confirmed back when AoL came out. I do like the changes since the preview chapter. The fight/chase scene is great, and I still think Wayne is awesome. It's never been explicitly confirmed, but this line of speculation is something that already happened when got the first versions of this chapter years ago.
hypatia she/her Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Is it possible that Breeze was the author? Someone is looking for the spices from Rashek and Edwarn has something in his mind with this kidnapped women. Wax thinks this could be for Allomancy, but this was before he gets the information from Marsh. Now if his uncle doesn't try something with Allomancy rather with Hemalurgy,then he should also has had this/similiar informations and coming from Breeze would be more reasonable because of the family. Remember the last scene in the train? Wax is talking about the women and Edwarn remembers him of their bloodline, the counselor of gods - I was never really able to see a connection until now.
Guest Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Am I the only one who thought Breeze wrote the book Wax was reading? He didn't have the hands-on experience that Spook had, but he did observe the effects it had on Spook.
hypatia she/her Posted July 4, 2015 Posted July 4, 2015 Let's say - two hearts, one thought. Was it "Harmony"? Was it fate? It's my first time something like a mindlink happens.
Thuvia she/her Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 The ethics of hemalurgy...written by Spook? Who else, following the Great Catacendre and the Last Ascension would know anything about hemalurgy? Also, we know that the person who wrote this book is very friendly with Sazed because they use his nickname. I'm super glad that the morality of hemalurgy is being assessed. It's a question I've always pondered. The version of hemalurgy by the LTR, in my opinion, is unethical due to its requirement of death to yield an end-negative form of investiture that decays. But is there a better way now that there's Harmony? How many copies of this book exist? How many other people have an idea about hemalurgy? Have people been experimenting with it, as a result? I can't wait to read this book! It's gotta to be Marsh who wrote the little book. He gave it to Marasi to give to Wax at the end of Alloy of Law.
natc Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Harmony forbid Marsh having obtained his friend's diary/autobiography after spending 300 years by himself in order to give it to someone, right?
WeiryWriter he/him Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 It's gotta to be Marsh who wrote the little book. He gave it to Marasi to give to Wax at the end of Alloy of Law. Marsh is the one person we explicitly know /didn't/ write the book: Question Was the book Wax reading written by the guy who gave it to him? Brandon Sanderson No, it was not. Question Spook? Sounds like Spook's voice. Brandon Sanderson (smiling) It certainly doesn't sound like Marsh. (source) 2
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