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On 21 April 2017 at 3:59 PM, Mestiv said:

Evading questions is part of my powers now :ph34r:

Hint: Look around my profile picture

Ooooooooooh congratulations!!!

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4 hours ago, Mestiv said:

@Orlion On a CobI'm afraid I don't understand that picture. Is that a reference to something?

What are you, Steve Rogers? :D
Here you go:

 

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3 hours ago, Oversleep said:

What are you, Steve Rogers?

Wait wait wait wasn't that the name of one of my music teachers?!
Or was it Michael...nevermind.

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11 minutes ago, A Budgie said:

Wait wait wait wasn't that the name of one of my music teachers?!
Or was it Michael...nevermind.

Steve Rogers aka Captain America.

I said that because he doesn't get popculture references because he was frozen since World War II. That's why this meme exists:

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And @Mestiv didn't get the reference and asked whether it was reference to something so I joked whether he is Steve Rogers because I was surprised people could not know that Pink Floyd music video clip because Another Brick In The Wall is kinda popular, right?
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@Oversleep OH no wonder the name seemed familiar...and since I had a teacher with the last name Rogers I just associated with him.
It's been a while since I watched Avengers...

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46 minutes ago, Oversleep said:

I was surprised people could not know that Pink Floyd music video clip because Another Brick In The Wall is kinda popular, right?

Yes, but some people were super-sheltered as children and may or may not have seen the music video in question until today. Some people. Let's not name names here, especially not ones that rhyme with PlyMightDansLarkle. :ph34r: 

Edit: Woohoo! Just passed 50K words! ^_^ 

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4 hours ago, Oversleep said:

What are you, Steve Rogers? :D

*puts on @Mestiv hat*

BANNED!!!1!

Abuse of powers newly acquired is acceptable for a few minutes. Should have gone for it. :D

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I'd never seen the music video before. I know the song, yeah, but even with more 'modern' songs I don't know what the music videos are like...

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7 hours ago, Delightfully Smoak said:

I have never seen that specific video before. Just....why so Nazi?

To answer your question,  I would have to decide what you are actually referring to: the use of the reference itself or Pink Floyd's The Wall. In the later case,  it's suppose to be unsettling imagery.  To go further then that would require some familiarity with the album/ movie. 

As far as the first... perhaps @Oversleep is right: 

7 hours ago, Oversleep said:

What are you, Steve Rogers? :D
 

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Jokes aside,  I just wanted to post a gif of marching hammers. @Mestiv becoming a moderator  (along with a few others) was a convenient excuse since some corners of the internet refer to moderating as "bringing out the mallet" or hammer. A very tenuous connection. 

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I was indeed unfamiliar with this music video. Sorry to make you explain it :P

There will be no abuse of power, sorry to disappoint :P

Also,  there should be an announcement from Chaos explaining the circumstances of my promotion "soonTM ". I feel that there might be some users thinking "this guy didn't deserve it", so I hope all will be clear soon. 

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27 minutes ago, Mestiv said:

I was indeed unfamiliar with this music video. Sorry to make you explain it :P

There will be no abuse of power, sorry to disappoint :P

Also,  there should be an announcement from Chaos explaining the circumstances of my promotion "soonTM ". I feel that there might be some users thinking "this guy didn't deserve it", so I hope all will be clear soon. 

waaait what??!! Of course you deserve it :o Who would think otherwise?!!

Pfft, don't listen to them brainweasels

EDIT: @A Budgie huh, same here.

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4 hours ago, Orlion On a Cob said:

To answer your question,  I would have to decide what you are actually referring to: the use of the reference itself or Pink Floyd's The Wall. In the later case,  it's suppose to be unsettling imagery.  To go further then that would require some familiarity with the album/ movie. 

As far as the first... perhaps @Oversleep is right: 

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Jokes aside,  I just wanted to post a gif of marching hammers. @Mestiv becoming a moderator  (along with a few others) was a convenient excuse since some corners of the internet refer to moderating as "bringing out the mallet" or hammer. A very tenuous connection. 

Black white and red goose-stepping? VERY Nazi. 

Also.....it's Holocaust Remembrance Day here in Israel so I'm a little more sensitive than usual to Nazi references. Mistreating kids in a classroom is not the same as murdering and gassing and shooting and raping and performing unspeakable experiments on millions, destroying families, generational trauma, Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope. 

And cap *shudders*.

3 hours ago, Mestiv said:

I was indeed unfamiliar with this music video. Sorry to make you explain it :P

There will be no abuse of power, sorry to disappoint :P

Also,  there should be an announcement from Chaos explaining the circumstances of my promotion "soonTM ". I feel that there might be some users thinking "this guy didn't deserve it", so I hope all will be clear soon. 

Well we don't know the specific circumstances but we all like ya and know you're good with code and don't think anybody at all is holding hard feelings here:)

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10 hours ago, A Budgie said:

Wait wait wait wasn't that the name of one of my music teachers?!
Or was it Michael...nevermind.

Michael... Cera?

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2 hours ago, Delightfully Smoak said:

Black white and red goose-stepping? VERY Nazi. 

Also.....it's Holocaust Remembrance Day here in Israel so I'm a little more sensitive than usual to Nazi references. Mistreating kids in a classroom is not the same as murdering and gassing and shooting and raping and performing unspeakable experiments on millions, destroying families, generational trauma, Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope. 

While it's true that many writers, directors, and other creators use Nazi imagery as lazy shorthand for "These guys are EVUL, fear them!!11!!" that isn't what Pink Floyd is doing here. 

You probably know this already, but in addition to their crimes against the Jewish people—which absolutely deserve their place in infamy, and are aptly named one of the worst atrocities of the 20th century—the Nazis also did a lot of damage to other nations of the world. In Germany, they left a scar across their own national history, one so pervasive it, in the words of Eric Metaxas, destroyed the past as well. Denmark, France, Poland, and many other countries spent years under Nazi occupation, resisting the invaders though resistance could mean death. The US sent millions of young men to fight the growing threat, many of whom never came home, or returned with severe PTSD. And in the UK, where Pink Floyd is from, the nation's choice to resist the Nazis meant its citizens were subjected to years of privation and terror, in addition to many civilian deaths from bombings. The Nazis are a part of world history, and as such, Nazi imagery can mean many different things, depending on the images used and the surrounding context. 

In the Pink Floyd video, the band seems to be harkening back to the forced conformity the Nazis implemented, through programs such as Hitler Youth. I don't think they're saying that British education is the same as Hitler Youth—they'd be rightly laughed out of the country if they did—but are rather using imagery of one of the most chilling forced conformity programs of the 20th century to point out that, hey, our schools aren't helping our students learn and grow so much as they are draining them of individuality and life, forcing them to fall in lockstep with an ideology that, were they given the option, they might find distasteful or even abhorrent. They're turning kids into tools who will do whatever those in power need them to do, and this isn't right. 

It's true that Nazi imagery is often used as a lazy writer's code for "See Nazi Germany? This is the same as that," but not always. The Nazis did a ton of damage—and the worst of it was directed at the Jewish people—and a skilled writer can harken back to that damage, not to say "These guys are as bad as one of the most evil regimes of the 20th century," but to say something far more interesting. 

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4 minutes ago, TwiLyghtSansSparkles said:

While it's true that many writers, directors, and other creators use Nazi imagery as lazy shorthand for "These guys are EVUL, fear them!!11!!" that isn't what Pink Floyd is doing here. 

You probably know this already, but in addition to their crimes against the Jewish people—which absolutely deserve their place in infamy, and are aptly named one of the worst atrocities of the 20th century—the Nazis also did a lot of damage to other nations of the world. In Germany, they left a scar across their own national history, one so pervasive it, in the words of Eric Metaxas, destroyed the past as well. Denmark, France, Poland, and many other countries spent years under Nazi occupation, resisting the invaders though resistance could mean death. The US sent millions of young men to fight the growing threat, many of whom never came home, or returned with severe PTSD. And in the UK, where Pink Floyd is from, the nation's choice to resist the Nazis meant its citizens were subjected to years of privation and terror, in addition to many civilian deaths from bombings. The Nazis are a part of world history, and as such, Nazi imagery can mean many different things, depending on the images used and the surrounding context. 

In the Pink Floyd video, the band seems to be harkening back to the forced conformity the Nazis implemented, through programs such as Hitler Youth. I don't think they're saying that British education is the same as Hitler Youth—they'd be rightly laughed out of the country if they did—but are rather using imagery of one of the most chilling forced conformity programs of the 20th century to point out that, hey, our schools aren't helping our students learn and grow so much as they are draining them of individuality and life, forcing them to fall in lockstep with an ideology that, were they given the option, they might find distasteful or even abhorrent. They're turning kids into tools who will do whatever those in power need them to do, and this isn't right. 

It's true that Nazi imagery is often used as a lazy writer's code for "See Nazi Germany? This is the same as that," but not always. The Nazis did a ton of damage—and the worst of it was directed at the Jewish people—and a skilled writer can harken back to that damage, not to say "These guys are as bad as one of the most evil regimes of the 20th century," but to say something far more interesting. 

Thank you, that analysis makes me feel a lot better about it. 

.....something I never thought I'd say about Nazi imagery :mellow:

Because you're right, a lot of imagery in lazy shorthand and it cheapens everything.

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Similar imagery can be also a shorthand for invoking something else. More focused on the fascism/totalitarian aspect. Remember V for Vendetta? They used similar color scheme for Norsefire (ruling party).

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I'm sick right now, and though I powered through Sunday and somehow made it through work yesterday, I will probably have to stay home today. On the bright side, my boyfriend is taking wonderful care of me. ^_^ That last part is my good news. Lol

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