Unhinged he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Pretty simple question here, if you were given the chance to become a god, to gain all the powers of a shard but at the cost of your personality since you must become the shard to use it would you do it? And if you said yes which shard would you become? I know this might sound crazy but I would do it and i'd probably chose to be Odium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I would take up Cultivation. Also, you should take Harmony off the list, as he holds two Shards, not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhinged he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) I would take up Cultivation. Also, you should take Harmony off the list, as he holds two Shards, not one. I see Harmony as being Ruin and preservation mashed together into one entity I figured it was close enough. Edited February 16, 2015 by Unhinged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) It's kinda complicated, but I'm pretty sure Sazed basically holds the shard Harmony now-which is the two shards combined- but it's now one uber-shard. Also, I voted No, and that I'd prefer Devotion. (I think it fits me pretty decent already, so minimal character warp?) Edited February 16, 2015 by LeftVash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bort he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 So, out of the first 4 voters, 2 of them would take up Hatred. Slightly disturbing, I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 If I was offered the choice it would have to be no, but if I was forced to choose then it would either be Odium, to eradicate those that forced me into godhood, or Ruin, for more or less the same reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewStirlingMacDonald he/him Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 I wanna be the Stormfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 it would strongly depend on the situation. I would not kill a shardholder to get his, but if I happened upon a shard, and there was no one else there whom I feel is more qualified than me to hold one, I would step up and take responsibility for it (given the number of people who would like to have odium or ruin, now I'd probably take it just to keep it away from them). As for which shard, I don't think it would matter that much. in the beginning I'd be in control and capable of doing mostly what I want. In the end I won't be myself anymore and would have just become the shard. If I took a bad shard, I would just take it for safekeeping so that for the few centuries I'd be in control I could avoid it having an impact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vineyarddawg Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Actually, a WoB has confirmed that you can basically think of Harmony as one shard or two. (I still think of it as two.) QUESTIONWere Ruin and Preservation two shards or one? BRANDON SANDERSONThey were two shards. Harmony is considered a shard, although it’s really two, in the same way that a king of two countries would still be considered a king. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7107-would-you-take-a-shard-general-spoilers/ I actually asked this kind of question a while back, when contemplating what powers from one series I would use to take over and assault another. I came to the realization that, while in instant-trump to play for one side, picking up a Shard pretty much destroys who you are as a person, leading to my conclusion that it simply wasn't worth it under the vast majority of circumstances. Especially ones lacking a large, selfless motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haradion Drogon Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I would Take up Odium... I think I could keep its Anger focused long enough...And its trait would provoke someone else into eventually Defeating me... And Thereby passing it onto a new Holder, before I could become completely corrupted by its intent...Zero Requiem Style... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I agree with Observer; it is effectively suicide, in my opinion, to pick up a Shard. That said, Endowment would let you be fabulous and give everyone pretty colors. Could be worth it. (Assuming you get to stay on Nalthis, since Investing a different world might not produce the fabulousness.) Edited February 17, 2015 by Moogle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King he/him Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Why does Odium have more votes than Harmony? WHY DOES ODIUM HAVE MORE VOTES THAN HARMONY? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater he/him Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Why does Odium have more votes than Harmony? WHY DOES ODIUM HAVE MORE VOTES THAN HARMONY? If you want to be deep about it...Because people understand hating something better then being at harmony. Everybody has something they legitimately hate, few people can say they have true harmony with themselves. One is just easier to understand then the other even if it's far more terrible. ..Or it's just cause being the ultimate bad guy sounds way more fun. Edited February 17, 2015 by Slater 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Honestly, the question is accurate, but the way it's being read seems wrong. Would you take up a Shard is legitimate. Would you hold a shard is not, because it's not even you who is holding the Shard. Your personality warps so badly, (just look at Ati) that I'm not sure it's even you holding it after a while. So many people are picking up Odium, thinking they could do some good with it, ignoring the fact that it would be so much easier to just grab a more benign Shard in the first place, eliminating the need for a hero to come along and kill you, Zero-Requiem style. It just doesn't seem worth it at all, but if I had to pick it sure wouldn't be Odium I'd grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragrin she/her Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yeah, but... we've seen what Shardic power does if it's left alone for too long, and that was Devotion and Dominion, fairly benign. I do not want to see unguided masses of Odium smashing around the Cognitive Realm. If there's someone holding it, at least it's a focused, somewhat predictable danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 True that taking a shard changes you, but you are looking at the wrong timescale. It does so within centuries. Vin was still herself after taking preservation. And she was able to use preservation's power to destroy ruin, something that preservation itself could not do. So, taking up a shard you'll basically die within a few centuries. But then, in a few ccenturies I'll expect I'll be dead anyway, so not much to lose. Also, how much personality warping counts as being dead? I'm certainly a far different person than I was 10 years ago, does it mean that my old self died and the new self was born? where is the demarcation line? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift he/him Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yes. I said "other" because I'd prefer we had knowledge of all 16 Shards before making a choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosted Flakes Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I almost chose Honor, then thought about its limitations and decided on Odium for probably many of the same reasons Rayse wanted Odium. However, I would want to know the Intent of all the Shards before I chose. Edit: Upon further consideration, I would wait to take up a Shard until I was nearing the end of my natural lifespan. Edited February 17, 2015 by Frosted Flakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 See now I didn't take Odium for any benign reason because I personally don't want a Shard. But if someone was forcing me then I want a Shard that has been proven to be able to Shatter Shards. With that power I would wreak such destruction on the entity that was forcing my hand, that the Desolations would like no more than a peaceful protest. If I had to annihilate several planets and civilisations to do so then so be it. I've also been told by close friends and family that if I ever get superpowers that I have to tell them so they can get out of the country because they think that the first thing i'd is go on a killing spree. Not sure if they are wrong but I did promise to tell them. So I don't know. Asked my best friend of 13ish years what Shard would best suite my personality and he said Odium almost instantly. He is somewhat Cosmere aware. If not that one then Dominion apparently. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaladin he/him Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 This was a tough choice. Odium and Endowment came close, but I chose Honor (like most everyone else <boring>). There is a very specific reason why I chose Honor. One thing I cannot stand is when people lie to me. I never lie. One thing I hope is said about me when I die is that I was far from perfect, but at least was honest. Lying is one of the filthier sins, in my opinion. Also, I am lousy at, and am wary of, predicting the future. This fits what we know of Honor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvoraen Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes, but only if it was Honor. Personal reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirce Luckwielder he/him Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Even with the warping personality, I think that I would take up a Shard if it was a "good" one. If I get to change my personality to be more attuned to a good quality AND get fabulous powers that help people, I totally would. While I don't want myself to change, I would rather it change for the better at the same time as it goes to help people. For these reasons, I chose Harmony since he can decide who to help and keep his personality mostly the same since he has both Ruin and Preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatebreaker he/him Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I choose the Shard of Mischievousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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