Patrick Star Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 The main issue there though is the lack of stormlight on earth, since soulcasting uses large amounts. There's an app for that. Stormlight Emporium, to be exact. Your #1 Gemstone Cuttery and Stormlight Supplier since the shattering of Adonalsium. They recently created a network of Stormlight pumps to refill dunn spheres, as well.
The Drunk Monkey he/him Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 I'd deffos want Truthwatcher abilities (aka Progression and Illumination) I mean healing people while making them think I am somebody else seems like an interesting combo! Plus they can see stuff they shouldn't see for some reason so yeah Truthwatching RULE!!
Pathfinder Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) As ever this question demands context. Are we on Roshar? Are we in our world? If we're in our world, am I the only Surgebinder, or is Surgebinding common? What's the availability of Stormlight? Since it's left open-ended, I'm going to answer assuming that I'm in the real world, I'm either the only or one of very few Surgebinders, and that, like Roshar, there's a once-a-week(ish) event which blankets the land with Stormlight, which can be saved up throughout the week, but if I use it up, that's it, it's gone. From what little I know (and from my additional speculation) I assume that my personality type would be most likely to attract the spren to make me a Willshaper. I don't see a lot of utility in Cohesion, though Transportation would likely be fun, and I'm eager to meet the personality of the type of spren that would make a Willshaper. If I actually get to pick the power I want, instead of having to earn it as a real Surgebinder does, I think I'd go Edgedancer. Possibly Truthwatcher; I basically want Progression. I would volunteer several hours a day at the emergency room healing trauma patients. It would prolly be a very good, very quick way to build up a ton of goodwill, also people would be more likely to collect Stormlight and let me use it if I'm saving lives on the regular. A few possible downsides. I would be run absolutely ragged; I imagine I could start a kickstarter or a paypal or something, or get a government grant, allowing me to quit my job and spend even more time at the hospital. If it's just me, I personally would get called in, any time of day or night, for a case that literally will not survive without magical healing. It would be difficult to have a social life; literally any time I decide to go on vacation or just hit up a party more than five miles from the hospital, I'd not only be blamed by the families of anyone who died because I wasn't there to save them, I'd also feel personally responsible. On the other hand, my healing would be limited by Stormlight. Once it runs out, there's literally nothing else I can do that week, so I'd have several days where I could prolly assuage my own guilt enough to spend a few days on a beach somewhere. Wyndle bugs me, and presumably, being a spren rather than a human, we're allowed to assume that other spren of his type are at least a little similar. Ym's spren, whom I assume is the Truthwatcher spren, annoys me much less. However, if I'm an Edgedancer, Abrasion sounds like a more-useful ability if I were to join firefighters or EMTs or something than Illumination. For personal use, the simple capacity Stormlight grants you for holding it strikes me as pretty much all the power any reasonable person could ask for. The Surges are cherries on top. Hrm. Scadrian magic is pretty unique, isn't it? Holding Breath, holding Stormlight, or being an Elantrian all grant passive bonuses just for existing. Not so for allomancy of feruchemy. Hemalurgy does for the human traits, but not when you copy powers. So i'm sorry but I just thought of a very grim and twisted manifestation of your lovely and altruistic wish. If you ended up an edgedancer like Lift, you could end up like a cow. You would be stuffed with food constantly in order to fuel your stormlight to heal people. Though I was about to say a corrupt group could chain you down so they could have constant access to your healing, but then i remembered you could use friction to slip out. You would become the stormlight equivalent of Bruce Banner. Traveling the lonely road, fleeing the goverment, helping people where you can, but always fearing your abilities would be discovered and locked away. Edited December 16, 2014 by Pathfinder
Oudeis he/him Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 It's strongly implied that most Edgedancers cannot instantly metabolize food into Stormlight; that appears to be her Boon from the Nightwatcher.
Pathfinder Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 It's strongly implied that most Edgedancers cannot instantly metabolize food into Stormlight; that appears to be her Boon from the Nightwatcher. I'm sorry, to clarify, I am aware that the ability to metabolize food into stormlight has nothing to do with the order Lift is apart of. Just in reading your post, you mentioned Wyndle, and that made me remember Lift's ability, and then lead me to think how that could be handled on our planet. That is why in my post I wrote "ended up as an edgedancer like Lift". I meant that to mean as an edgedancer, like Lift which has her metabolic ability.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 If I had to choose One Order, I'd go With Lightweaver. Transportation and Illumination. If I could instead choose two Surges, I'd go with Gravitation and Illumination. I've always been fond of Illusion magic, and Gravitation is just awesome. Imagine suffusing somebody's pants with just a small amount of Stormlight, and lashing them up or down.
Pathfinder Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Honestly just for utility and coolness factor is Elsecaller for me. Teleport to work, teleport to pick up my girlfriend, teleport to tahiti for vacation. Open a business where craftsmen make intricate and beautiful wood carvings, and then soulcast it into diamond, steel, or what have you, and profit
Patrick Star Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Oh! I know! Could I have Adolin's ability to get girlfriends? Please tell me when you're able to, I'll be crying in the corner. 3
AerionBFII he/him Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Oh! I know! Could I have Adolin's ability to get girlfriends? Please tell me when you're able to, I'll be crying in the corner. Hahaha also his ability to lose them?
Patrick Star Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Hahaha also his ability to lose them? But part of his ability is getting a new one when that happens.
AerionBFII he/him Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Why do you think he loses them? Things usually take a turn for the worse when he describes how he shat in is Shardplate LOL
Patrick Star Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Then I won't describe that. Pretty simple.
Redbird he/him Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 My lack of shardplate would make that a pretty easy situation to avoid. 1
hoidhunter he/him Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I'm reminded of a quote from Wayn's World... "If you hurl and she comes back, she's yours. If you blow chunks and she bolts, then it was never meant to be." Talk about armored defecation all you want man...the good one's will still stick around.
natc Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 I think Windrunning would be fun. Throw myself all over the place to get to places quicker, on-demand superglue. Sure, the adhesive bit isn't nearly as attractive, but unlike being a Skybreaker I won't be tempted to murder some random guy that pisses me off by lashing him to the sky.
Pestis the Spider she/her Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 but unlike being a Skybreaker I won't be tempted to murder some random guy that pisses me off by lashing him to the sky. Well, I did not notice Skybreakers doing that. I actually hardly noticed any Skybreakers at all. If you're talking about Szeth though, then I have to disagree, because we still do not know if he indeed became a Skybreaker. Even if he is, I really believe that he did so not because that was fun to do to a person that pissed him off, but rather because he was obliged by his "Truthless rules" to what he was told, and the person pissing him off was in the way. It's not like Skybreakers are unquestionably evil, or something. I'd be a Windrunner. From all the orders we learned about this one matches me the best. Although I do have something of the lightweaver in me, but not a lot, really. Maybe when we get more details about other Orders I'll have to change my mind, because right now I can only speculate about them. And well, windrunning sound fun.
natc Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Well, I did not notice Skybreakers doing that. I actually hardly noticed any Skybreakers at all. If you're talking about Szeth though, then I have to disagree, because we still do not know if he indeed became a Skybreaker. Even if he is, I really believe that he did so not because that was fun to do to a person that pissed him off, but rather because he was obliged by his "Truthless rules" to what he was told, and the person pissing him off was in the way. It's not like Skybreakers are unquestionably evil, or something. I'd be a Windrunner. From all the orders we learned about this one matches me the best. Although I do have something of the lightweaver in me, but not a lot, really. Maybe when we get more details about other Orders I'll have to change my mind, because right now I can only speculate about them. And well, windrunning sound fun. No I mean I'll be stuck protecting the guy even if I hate his guts as long as my conscience thinks it is wrong to just do him in. If I hated him enough and was a Skybreaker I'd be able to lash him towards the sky and kill him without a second thought the instant I see him break the law enough, and still keep my powers. Would rather avoid that kind of temptation going on. Edited January 15, 2015 by natc
Moogle Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 No I mean I'll be stuck protecting the guy even if I hate his guts as long as my conscience thinks it is wrong to just do him in. If I hated him enough and was a Skybreaker I'd be able to lash him towards the sky and kill him without a second thought the instant I see him break the law enough, and still keep my powers. Would rather avoid that kind of temptation going on. I suspect - though we don't know for sure - that you wouldn't be able to do that. You have to follow the law when you're punishing someone, I think. Look at how Nalan had to get an execution warrant for Lift. You can't get that kind of thing just for people you dislike - they'd have to be doing something serious, worthy of an execution. It's also unclear on whether or not Skybreakers follow their own land's laws, or the local area's. If you were a Skybreaker in our world, it might be you'd never be allow to kill anyone except in self-defense, because that's (mostly) how our legal system works.
natc Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Can still get pretty far with it in the right line of work really. I would rather not end up killing people for any reason at all really. Clearly I've never done it, but I can tell I'm the type who won't be able to sleep at night for a good few decades if I lost control like that. Not taking the risk here. Zahel approves.
CHOUTAGOD he/him Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Windrunner for sure!! I would love to fly or fall however you want to call it. Also as long as I don't make any promises I'm free to do as I please. As long as I'm protecting the those who can't protect themselves or the innocent. Ultimate freedom here I come!!!
Lord Pifferdoo he/him Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Fricking Cohesion! You could alter things on a molecular level! I could have like a super punch that pushes into a guys head or doodle all over everything.
Pestis the Spider she/her Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Can still get pretty far with it in the right line of work really. I would rather not end up killing people for any reason at all really. Clearly I've never done it, but I can tell I'm the type who won't be able to sleep at night for a good few decades if I lost control like that. Not taking the risk here. Zahel approves. But you know, it's not like beeing a Windrunner or Skybreaker changes you character. So there is no risk of anything. If you would suddenly end up on Roshar, you could only be one type of KR (or not at all), because your character would match only one of the orders (which one that's up to you to know, because I do not know your character). So there is no risk of being different KR, and having a sudden character change.
Moogle Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 But you know, it's not like beeing a Windrunner or Skybreaker changes you character. So there is no risk of anything. If you would suddenly end up on Roshar, you could only be one type of KR (or not at all), because your character would match only one of the orders (which one that's up to you to know, because I do not know your character). So there is no risk of being different KR, and having a sudden character change. I'm not sure this is the case. Syl, despite her protests that she's not trying to force Kaladin to do anything, has definitely tried to (and succeeded) at changing Kaladin's character. We also have this WoB: Q: Is the order of the Ideals fixed? E.g. does Kaladin have to say the Windrunner Ideals in a specific order, or are they situation-specific? A: Yes, the sequence is fixed. The oaths for each order are essentially a progression of understanding of the kind of person that each Order of Knights Radiant is trying to produce. The specific wording of each Ideal is not fixed, but the overall idea of each Ideal, and the order in which they are spoken, is. (source) You have to be a certain sort of person to attract a spren of the right order in the first place, but I do think there's some "molding". Wyndle backs me up on this: “You realize that I didn’t choose you,” he said, a face appearing in the vines as they moved . His speaking left a strange effect, the trail behind him clotted with a sequence of frozen faces. The mouth seemed to move because it was growing so quickly beside her. “I wanted to pick a distinguished Iriali matron. A grandmother, an accomplished gardener. But no, the Ring said we should choose you. ‘She has visited the Old Magic,’ they said. ‘Our mother has blessed her,’ they said. ‘She will be young, and we can mold her,’ they said. Well, they don’t have to put up with—”
Pestis the Spider she/her Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) @Moogle: I actually think that spren do not change character upside down. it's not like Szeth could suddenly become a Bondsmith and start behaving like Dalinar, because of his spren influence. I think the effect of spren and stormlight on character is the same as the effect on any skill the person might possess and use. Quoting: "Stormlight did not grant skill. It could not make a man into something he was not. It enhanced, it strengthened, it invigorated. It perfected." I think that what spren do is just try to make the best of their KR. Not try to change them into someone else entirely. You can't say that Kaladin was not honorable and couldn't lead people, before he met Syl. Yeah, he struggled, but Syl was just prompting him into right direction, showing him, who he really is, and who he can be, not forcing him to do something against him. Well, molding within reason is fine. But if natc says he wouldn't be able to kill a person ever, then I don't think that any spren would be able to mold him into liking killing everyone that annoys him. So I really think there's no risk. Edited January 15, 2015 by Pestis the Spider
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