Do all God metals have an allomantic ability?

[noobedmaster7]

Do all god metals have an allomantic alloy or power?  If so what other powers do we know if? Trells metal? Odium? Honors metal?

Edited July 17 by noobedmaster7

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

A. Yes, they do, and

B. We don't know any others. All of them Connect you to that Shard, but the effects are not known.

[PanLin they/he]

On 7/17/2026 at 6:34 PM, noobedmaster7 said:

Trells metal?

Unsure! Lerasium Connects you to Preservation and only makes you mistborn as a side-effect, so it seems likely that burning any god metal will Connect you to that Shard and give some sort of related power/effect.

 

On 7/17/2026 at 6:34 PM, noobedmaster7 said:

Do all god metals have an allomantic alloy or power?

Yep! We know Lerasium alloys create mistings, and we know the allomantic effects of Atium-gold and Atium-electrum. According to the allomancy chart, pure Atium "grants an expansive view of the Future and enhances the mind's ability to accept, process, and hold information".

From this, we can extrapolate that every god metal has an allomantic effect, and also a set of 16 unique effects from being alloyed with each of the 16 allomantic metals.

The effect of Atium is apparently very similar to burning duralumin and Atium, which we saw Elend do at the end of Hero of Ages:

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AAKS

My understanding is that Brandon thinks it is a plothole that lerasium can be burned by Scadrian (regardless of if they are Mistings/Mistborn) but atium can't.

His solution is to retcon the Pits to naturally produce an atium/electrum alloy, presumably by the design of Preservation. Therefore we don't know what pure atium looks like or does when used in any magic.

Peter Ahlstrom

We do know what it does. It’s on the Allomancy poster, and the effect appeared one time at the end of Hero of Ages.

LewsTherinTelescope

Interesting. Do you know if he had already conceived the retcon by the time the poster was written, or if that line about pure atium just turned out to fit really well retroactively?

Peter Ahlstrom

The retcon is way older than a lot of people assume.

LewsTherinTelescope

Does this mean he had it in mind by the time Hero of Ages released (since the first public version of the poster dates to 2008), or just that it's old but not sure exactly how old?

Peter Ahlstrom

Remember that what's in the books is filtered through the understanding of the characters. So even if Brandon planned it from the beginning, if the characters didn't know about it, it's not going to come out in the book.

And see this thread reply from 2009.

Footnote: The link is to a post on the Timewaster's Guide forums, where Peter responds to someone asking about whether atium is an alloy by saying he now knows enough to confirm or deny the theory, but is not allowed to.
General Reddit 2022 (Dec. 4, 2022)

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:02 PM by PanLin

[JustQuestin2004 he/him]

10 minutes ago, PanLin said:

We can extrapolate from its use as a hemalurgic metal that it might have to do with either Identity or cloaking/protecting from the influence of other Shards/entities, but we don't know for sure.

Not quite, Trellium's 'cloaking' effect is an innate property of Trellium itself, like how Raysium can naturally conduct Investiture.

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Argent

Was Harmony unable to find [Bleeder] because the spike was made of this metal?

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah. The spike was what prevented him from being able to find her.

Argent

It wasn't an ability granted by the spike.

Brandon Sanderson

No.

Argent

It was just the material.

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah.

It seems likely that Trellium functions more like Atium does, allowing you to steal any one ability. Curiously it also allows you to steal a more mundane trait as seen with the Hemalurgic Chimera's (Which may or may not be the result of spiking animals).

[PanLin they/he]

On 7/20/2026 at 2:07 PM, JustQuestin2004 said:

Not quite, Trellium's 'cloaking' effect is an innate property of Trellium itself, like how Raysium can naturally conduct Investiture.

You're so right, thanks for the correction. I'll edit my previous message.

[WhimsyIsTheBestShard]

On 7/17/2026 at 1:34 PM, noobedmaster7 said:

Do all god metals have an allomantic alloy or power?

Yep, however, one thing I noticed is that in Mistborn Era 1 they believed Malatium to be the alloy of Atium and Gold. However, what they believed Atium was was actually electrum-Atium. So it's possible that Malatium is actually Atium-gold-electrum, in which case it would imply you could alloy God Metals with multiple Allomantic metals. (There's also the more obvious answer of they somehow aquired pure Atium and then alloyed it but we have no reason to believe one option over the other)

[alder24]

4 minutes ago, WhimsyIsTheBestShard said:

Yep, however, one thing I noticed is that in Mistborn Era 1 they believed Malatium to be the alloy of Atium and Gold. However, what they believed Atium was was actually electrum-Atium. So it's possible that Malatium is actually Atium-gold-electrum, in which case it would imply you could alloy God Metals with multiple Allomantic metals. (There's also the more obvious answer of they somehow aquired pure Atium and then alloyed it but we have no reason to believe one option over the other)

No, Malatium is an alloy of pure Atium and gold just like Atium-electrum alloy is. Electrum is an alloy of silver and gold, so Malatium is probably made by removing silver from Atium they got from the Pits. Most likely only Kelsier or Shezler knew how to make Malatium and they both were manipulated by Ruin into discovering this alloy. 

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Kingsdaughter613

Primary question: Peter recently said something about atium in Era 1 actually being an atium-electrum alloy, which is called nalatium. Is this accurate?

Brandon Sanderson

This is accurate, yes.

You could, by the way, just continue to call it atium. That's what they think atium is in-world. It's very slightly tainted.

Kingsdaughter613

Secondary questions: If the above is yes, did Kelsier get malatium by separating the atium and gold from the silver in nalatium? If so, do atium and gold have similar melting points?

Brandon Sanderson

That's more of a RAFO in that I'm not sure I want to canonize any of that right now. 

Footnote: Peter's comment did not give the alloy a name, Adam misread a sentence where the questioner mentioned their own nickname for it.
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[WhimsyIsTheBestShard]

Oh, thanks for the clarification