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Posted
18 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

I'm assuming it's been a while since you were last elim?

1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said:

The last time I was elim was the Andor quick fix, which I believe was coincidentally Myst’s first game

Also, guys, I would really talk more, but the Shard is so excruciatingly slow for me right now that I really can’t

Also I don’t know what to say

And I’m lazy

2 minutes ago, Wahrheitswächter said:

Sorry that I didnt check in earlier, I know i havent been the most active this Cycle, life happens. So I see there are already attempts to get me exed C1, so far so normal, but its not a danger right now. I dont like the exe on TUC.

My gut says that Qian feels Village to me. I dont know how I feel about TJ, but I really dont like Hoid proposing a Tie between Me and Qian, I dont want RNG to decide my Fate again.

So I will move my Vote from Illwei to Hoid 

@Qianweilian wanna join?

 

Well that’s mean

@CoderDrag0n8 you wanna help out here by voting Wahr?

Posted
9 minutes ago, Mystic said:

Plus there’s the assumption he made that inactivity = Elim and activity = village

In retrospect, it sounded like that, but those reads were based of things people said earlier. @Illwei mentioned that sometimes Elam’s will post but not contribute, and TUC I have my own thoughts on for other reasons. 

Posted

General reminder to include myself and Araris in PMs, and the prefix MR77. 

@The Unknown Character Enmity is 1 right now. 

@Mystic I have no comment on the presence of the Thief alignment in this game. 

new new VC

Qian (2): Hoid, Myst

Wahr (1): TJ

TJ (1): Hopper

TUC (3): Illwei, Grub, Qian 

Hoid (2): Mint, Wahr

Posted
2 hours ago, Archer said:

General reminder to include myself and Araris in PMs, and the prefix MR77. 

@The Unknown Character Enmity is 1 right now. 

@Mystic I have no comment on the presence of the Thief alignment in this game. 

new new VC

Qian (2): Hoid, Myst

Wahr (1): TJ

TJ (1): Hopper

TUC (3): Illwei, Grub, Qian 

Hoid (2): Mint, Wahr

So we don’t even know if one exists????

I suppose that could mean we just get PMs… I think the fact that we have PMs suggests we do?

Either way that’s annoying, we honestly could just have no idea until either the game ends. Or a thief just wins, or until then I suppose.

Aside from losing PMs if we exe them, is there anything we need to be worried about from them?

Posted
2 hours ago, Wahrheitswächter said:

Sorry that I didnt check in earlier, I know i havent been the most active this Cycle, life happens.

Don't remind me of the craziness I have tomorrow...

2 hours ago, Wahrheitswächter said:

So I will move my Vote from Illwei to Hoid 

@Qianweilian wanna join?

I'm still leaning Hoid as a village, so I'm going to sit on TUC for now.

2 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Also, guys, I would really talk more, but the Shard is so excruciatingly slow for me right now that I really can’t

I don't think that it's a you problem. I think something is weird with their servers.

2 hours ago, Ascended Grubberfly said:

In retrospect, it sounded like that, but those reads were based of things people said earlier.

Yeah, those reads were because of what people said, not activity. I've seen an elim team miss a nk because it was inactive and not communicating.

6 minutes ago, Mystic said:

Aside from losing PMs if we exe them, is there anything we need to be worried about from them?

I mean, some of the rare items would definitely not be fun to get stolen, especially the axies agreement. But other than that, I don't believe so.

Posted
45 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Yeah, those reads were because of what people said, not activity. I've seen an elim team miss a nk because it was inactive and not communicating.

51 minutes ago, Mystic said:

Once it got into the inactive people, then yes, it did, but before that, it was just active = good, inactive = bad.

The inconsistency was part of what I didn’t like

46 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

I mean, some of the rare items would definitely not be fun to get stolen, especially the axies agreement. But other than that, I don't believe so.

We could ask nicely maybe? I don’t think it matters to the thief what rare items they have, just that they have 5 of them. So we could just ask them not to or something if there’s a different rare item.

Also, regarding the agreements, don’t those make you lose ties? To my knowledge none of the other rare items have a downside like that.

Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

LIke other people said, a lot in this post rubs me the wrong way

I think what rubs me the wrong way about it is the sentence "because [coder is] busy"

Like, he (edit: coder) just popped on and said nothing of the sort, so where are you (edit: grubby) getting that ?

Edited by Illwei
Posted

@Illwei since I'm responding generally

I don't know what more you want. I'm explained myself twice, and you haven't actually responded to my points

You're just repeating the same things you said when you first voted me. Your only new point is disliking my summary of player experience because... it didn't have reads? Like, what? It wasn't a reads list, it was a summary of player experience for people who aren't familiar with the player list/you and Grub.

You also said that you think we can't discuss coordination without first deciding on a type. That's just not true. We can include them in the discussion if you stop stonewalling saying that coordination gives the elims targets, which isn't even true because everyone is more or less equally powerful here. 

Since both you and Grub seem to want me to give a proposal, here it is. We should have Favor+1 or 2 people come forward every turn saying they can supply at least one favor. That will cover it without revealing people. They don't need to say how, just that they will. If favor isn't met, we have a suspect pool.

In fact, I'll come forward and say that I have a preexisting item that I can use to deal with the favor today.

Posted

Which only works so far as no one else has submitted a favor action at T-2h

I'm just not a Mech fan. 

I have some wierd feelings all over the place, but just for safekeeping I'm gonna Wahr

Also TUO I don't really want anything out of you- I was clarifying my reasons not to get you to respond to them, but to respond to other people who are misrepresenting my points. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Illwei said:

I think what rubs me the wrong way about it is the sentence "because [coder is] busy"

Like, he (edit: coder) just popped on and said nothing of the sort, so where are you (edit: grubby) getting that ?

I pulled my vote from him because he wasn’t responding. I figured it would be better to place pressure on someone more active. In my first draft, Coder hadn’t posted yet, so I just assumed he was busy. That word carried over ig.

 

6 minutes ago, The Unknown Character said:

In fact, I'll come forward and say that I have a preexisting item that I can use to deal with the favor today.

I’ll be part of this. I have a way to gain favor, and am using it.

Posted

Illwei really is right about how this is not the time.

Rollover is in less than 2 hours, like, go ahead and use it, but like, if we’re gonna coordinate we need to be doing that earlier 

Posted

Also sorry for another post, meant to out in as edits but then people posted!

But where exactly do I keep seeing the post where myst says we can ask the thief nicely not to steak from us

Because thats just. Idk if its funny, or....

Anyways ill eventually wanna hear from whoever said myst felt v- tj? Because I have the opposite opinion but can be swayed if they say the right words. 

Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Also sorry for another post, meant to out in as edits but then people posted!

But where exactly do I keep seeing the post where myst says we can ask the thief nicely not to steak from us

Because thats just. Idk if its funny, or....

Anyways ill eventually wanna hear from whoever said myst felt v- tj? Because I have the opposite opinion but can be swayed if they say the right words. 

I was saying we should like, offer them other rare items, in exchange but pretty much yeah, ask nicely. Because it’s a lot better if we have the letters and agreements(side note, I find it interesting that Qian didn’t bring up letters when we were talking(letters aren’t useful to the mafia, Agreements are)) than an expertise book(IMO. There are other ways to get expertise) so depending on how nice the Thief is, we could

So sort of both

It is also a funny concept of just asking them to be nice to us

edit: I should mention that if we did do this, depending on how, since we don’t know who is/if there is the Thief, we could be giving stuff to the Elims. 

Edited by Mystic
Posted
4 hours ago, Mystic said:

But yes, I might be tunneling a bit. It’s a fault of mine(just ask Coco)

Can confirm lol

Struggling to catch up a bit but I’m not loving that TUC is winning the vote right now even though I’m seeing a lot of people saying they have village lean on him. Can somebody explain what’s going on there?

Posted

So, I got no idea on who to vote for. There’s currently a 4 way tie, but I’m reconsidering my TUC vote. However, I don’t know who else to vote.

another new VC

Qian (2): Hoid, Myst

Wahr (2): TJ, Illwei

TJ (1): Hopper

TUC (2): Grub, Qian 

Hoid (2): Mint, Wahr

Posted
4 minutes ago, Ascended Grubberfly said:

So, I got no idea on who to vote for. There’s currently a 4 way tie, but I’m reconsidering my TUC vote. However, I don’t know who else to vote.

 

another new VC

Qian (2): Hoid, Myst

Wahr (2): TJ, Illwei

TJ (1): Hopper

TUC (2): Grub, Qian 

Hoid (2): Mint, Wahr

I mean, I’d like for you to vote Qian, but I doubt you’ll do that, for now, here’s a post so you can change your vote if you so choose.

Posted (edited)

It looks like the TUC train is dying, so I'm going to switch to Wahr, for the purposes of self preservation and the fact that I don't think Hoid is elim, mostly based on vibes. I'm also beginning to trust Illwei a bit, so there's that as well. Also, I can take responsibility for one favor this cycle, to avoid the risk of a roleblock.

29 minutes ago, Mystic said:

side note, I find it interesting that Qian didn’t bring up letters when we were talking(letters aren’t useful to the mafia, Agreements are)) than an expertise book(IMO. There are other ways to get expertise)

It's partially because I forgot about them, and partially because that although letters are more beneficial, agreements are more important to not have elims get.

Edit: Ninja'd by Myst.

Generally, if you make another post to change your vote, it's not nearly as frowned upon as in the rest of the forum.

Edited by Qianweilian
Posted
Just now, Qianweilian said:

It looks like the TUC train is dying, so I'm going to switch to Wahr, for the purposes of self preservation and the fact that I don't think Hoid is elim, mostly based on vibes. I'm also beginning to trust Illwei a bit, so there's that as well. Also, I can take responsibility for one favor this cycle, to avoid the risk of a roleblock.

It's partially because I forgot about them, and partially because that although letters are more beneficial, agreements are more important to not have elims get.

The Thief isn’t Elim though?

Also I’m starting to get worried that we’re using all our favor. That’s 3 people who have said they would, 2 hours before rollover 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Mystic said:

Also I’m starting to get worried that we’re using all our favor. That’s 3 people who have said they would, 2 hours before rollover

Don’t we want to make sure there’s a couple people doing it though? Otherwise an elim could day they’ll do it and then just not and we’re already on one rebuke. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Mystic said:

The Thief isn’t Elim though?

Also I’m starting to get worried that we’re using all our favor. That’s 3 people who have said they would, 2 hours before rollover 

Oh, I didn't see Grub saying that, should I not?

2 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Don’t we want to make sure there’s a couple people doing it though? Otherwise an elim could day they’ll do it and then just not and we’re already on one rebuke. 

Don't we start with no rebukes? Or am I misunderstanding your comment?

Posted
3 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Don't we start with no rebukes? Or am I misunderstanding your comment?

We start with none, yes. I think you’re just misunderstanding. Sorry if my wording wasn't great. I’m saying if an elim says they will add favor and then doesn’t, and they’re the only one “doing” that, we would end up with a rebuke. And we don’t want that especially not in the first round. 

Posted (edited)

Tuo is using his and is gone already. So I would say one of you at the least shouldnt use yours. Maybe pm to decide if you want to do that, or whatnot

Edit

Or just say it in thread, idk!

Edited by Illwei
Posted

Rollover is in 25 minutes. 

Given how laggy the site has been today, you might want to leave some buffer time for last minute posts and orders. 

For administrative purposes, I'm going to start responding in GM PMs with what I have as your action/bonus action orders.

 

Posted
34 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Oh, I didn't see Grub saying that, should I not?

I’ve already got it in, so you can save the item for next time.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Ascended Grubberfly said:

I’ve already got it in, so you can save the item for next time.

If you've noticed, he is no longer in thread. So of he responds great, if he doesnt then maybe you should be the one to retract. 

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