Apple TV just bailed an hour ago. They won't be doing a series or movie...

[bedtime]

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April fools

[Frustration]

You got my hopes up

[Trusk'our he/him]

15 minutes ago, Frustration said:

You got my hopes up

Same bro. I always forget April 1st exists.

[Stardust She/Her]

20 minutes ago, Frustration said:

You got my hopes up

Wait do you not want Apple TV to do Cosmere? 

[___ He/Him]

44 minutes ago, bedtime said:

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April fools

My heart stopped

[Stardust She/Her]

45 minutes ago, bedtime said:

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April fools

I saw the title and I was literally crushed. Curse April Fools!

[Frustration]

7 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said:

Wait do you not want Apple TV to do Cosmere? 

Not one bit.

[Trusk'our he/him]

2 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said:

Wait do you not want Apple TV to do Cosmere? 

For me, it's because they'll change things I don't think should be changed- things Brandon himself wants to change despite the Canon and characters being solid and set in stone two decades ago. 

And then, of course, you'll have a whole bunch of people who watch the movie and not read the book and treat those things as Canon. 

I'm sure this is just my own dumb opinion, but I do care about it deeply, and it bothers me when I believe someone is gonna twist something I love into something it's not. 

[Stardust She/Her]

Just now, Frustration said:

Not one bit.

Why not? I don't really know enough about Apple TV to care either way; I'm just happy that someone is doing it, and that Brandon is pretty much in charge. So why don't you want it? 

[Usseewa]

omg you actually got me good one

i was like "wait what? Ah well... I guess it makes sense.. sigh"

15 minutes ago, Trusk'our said:

For me, it's because they'll change things I don't think should be changed- things Brandon himself wants to change despite the Canon and characters being solid and set in stone two decades ago. 

And then, of course, you'll have a whole bunch of people who watch the movie and not read the book and treat those things as Canon. 

I'm sure this is just my own dumb opinion, but I do care about it deeply, and it bothers me when I believe someone is gonna twist something I love into something it's not. 

It's not dumb at all, I totally get that.

Also lol look how it turned the apostrophe into html entity form in the quotebox.

[Frustration]

39 minutes ago, Through The Living Star said:

Why not? I don't really know enough about Apple TV to care either way; I'm just happy that someone is doing it, and that Brandon is pretty much in charge. So why don't you want it? 

1. It's Apple. They aren't the worst company out there, but they're still terrible.

1.5. Apple TV is subscription based, and I've had it with subscriptions. I just want to own the things I pay for.

2. Brandon might have creative control but if he's going to actually give the attention that such a project needs while also keeping the idiots out there from ruining it like they have every other franchise, then he needs to spend a lot of time on it. I'd rather that time go to writing books

3. Even if Brandon has creative control he'll have constraints in budgeting, corporate policies and what-not and I don't think that even with him any adaptations could be good enough to satisfy me.

4. I don't like movies or TV shows that much so even if it was good I don't have a huge desire to start with.

5. I don't want the community swamped with movie fans who think they are somehow deserving of fan status without reading the books. I'm already fed up with the Cosmere theory channels on YouTube, and they've at least read the books.

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[Stardust She/Her]

1 minute ago, Frustration said:

1. It's Apple. They aren't the worst company out there, but they're still terrible.

1.5. Apple TV is subscription based, and I've had it with subscriptions. I just want to own the things I pay for.

2. Brandon might have creative control but if he's going to actually give the attention that such a project needs while also keeping the idiots put there from ruining it like they have every other francise, then he needs to spend a lot of time on it. I'd rather that time go to writing books

3. Even if Brandon has creative control he'll have constraints in budgeting, corporate policies and what-not and I don't think that even with him any adaptations could be good enough to satisfy me.

4. I don't like movies or TV shows that much so even if it was good I don't have a huge desire to start with.

5. I don't want the community swamped with movie fans who think they are somehow deserving of fan status without reading the books. I'm already fed up with the Cosmere theory channels on YouTube, and they've at least read the books.

Those are really valid concerns. I would also rather the Brandon's time go to writing books (cough cough SA 6 cough cough). 

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

This got me extra hard as it isn't even the first anymore where I am

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

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April fools

You are the worst

[Usseewa]

3 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

You are the worst

In the best possible way

[Ascended Grubberfly He/Him]

4 hours ago, bedtime said:

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April fools

May all your bacon burn!

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

10 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

In the best possible way

Haha yeah

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Secretly declareding a blood feud

 

[Usseewa]

3 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

Haha yeah

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Secretly declareding a blood feud

 

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GOOD I LIKE BLOOD  

 

[IAmThatOneGuy He/Him]

4 hours ago, bedtime said:

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April fools

That title was the scariest jumpscare I've seen yet. Curse you.

[Treamayne]

6 hours ago, bedtime said:

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April fools

We aren't that lucky

[Verdance he/him]

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dammit, not allowed to threaten people with violence on the Shard

good joke tho

[Usseewa]

20 minutes ago, Verdance said:

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dammit, not allowed to threaten people with violence on the Shard

good joke tho

you essentially just did

[Schizoposting]

6 hours ago, Frustration said:

5. I don't want the community swamped with movie fans who think they are somehow deserving of fan status without reading the books. I'm already fed up with the Cosmere theory channels on YouTube, and they've at least read the books.

I'm curious—what's your issue with the YouTube channels? Is that a lot of their viewers watch them without reading the books? I have never watched these channels, so I genuinely don't know anything about them.

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

7 hours ago, Frustration said:

5. I don't want the community swamped with movie fans who think they are somehow deserving of fan status without reading the books. I'm already fed up with the Cosmere theory channels on YouTube, and they've at least read the books.

I think there are lots of threads about this already, but what I really think it comes down to is what you consider a fan.

I love Halo. So much. Genuinely one of my favorite pieces of media. I haven't read the books. The Reach book came out before Halo: CE, and I haven't read it. I still call myself a Halo fan.

If the T.V. series introduces people to Kaladin's story of recovery from depression or the movies to Vin learning to trust, I love that. Maybe those people haven't read the books, but if they want to call themselves fans of Brandon Sanderson (not Sanderson books, mind you) because the movies have made an impact on them, fine. Do I want them to go into lore discussions and talk about the movies where the rule of cool is most important? No. Do I want them to go and read the books after watching the movies? Absolutely!

Again, I know Halo has made an impact on me. It's a beautiful game series. I know the books go into more lore, but I'm of the opinion that I can still call myself a Halo fan because I LIKE IT. If you want to tell me that I'm not a Halo fan because I haven't read the books, and if you want to tell people who have just watched the movies that they aren't Brandon Sanderson fans, go crazy. 

Again, this isn't the best place for this discussion and if you want to talk further in a dedicated topic, I'd be happy to.

[Frustration]

50 minutes ago, Schizoposting said:

I'm curious—what's your issue with the YouTube channels? Is that a lot of their viewers watch them without reading the books? I have never watched these channels, so I genuinely don't know anything about them.

They mostly repackage old theories that have either already been confirmed or rejected years ago and pass it off as new or innovative without actually adding anything. I understand that digging through the Arcanum isn't for everyone but if you're making an entire channel dedicated to the Cosmere, I don't think that's much of an ask.

33 minutes ago, Through the Living Hopper said:

I think there are lots of threads about this already, but what I really think it comes down to is what you consider a fan.

I love Halo. So much. Genuinely one of my favorite pieces of media. I haven't read the books. The Reach book came out before Halo: CE, and I haven't read it. I still call myself a Halo fan.

If the T.V. series introduces people to Kaladin's story of recovery from depression or the movies to Vin learning to trust, I love that. Maybe those people haven't read the books, but if they want to call themselves fans of Brandon Sanderson (not Sanderson books, mind you) because the movies have made an impact on them, fine. Do I want them to go into lore discussions and talk about the movies where the rule of cool is most important? No. Do I want them to go and read the books after watching the movies? Absolutely!

Again, I know Halo has made an impact on me. It's a beautiful game series. I know the books go into more lore, but I'm of the opinion that I can still call myself a Halo fan because I LIKE IT. If you want to tell me that I'm not a Halo fan because I haven't read the books, and if you want to tell people who have just watched the movies that they aren't Brandon Sanderson fans, go crazy. 

Again, this isn't the best place for this discussion and if you want to talk further in a dedicated topic, I'd be happy to.

I don't follow Halo so I can't comment there. I do pay attention to LotR and similar fandoms. They can certainly be movie fans, but the differences in the fandoms, even for relatively good adaptations, is extreme. They can certainly be movie fans, but until you read the books there's a lot missing.

An example would be "Why didn't they fly the Eagles to Mordor?" That's probably the most common thing noted about LotR, and it's entirely the movies' fault. The books explain clearly that the Fellowship will only succeed through stealth. Giant eagles are not sneaky.

It might share the same name, but it will be fundamentally a different fandom altogether.