Oathbreaker "Perks"

[Trusk'our he/him]

I was thinking about making characters for the Cosmere rpg, one of which would have been a new Radiant, then ended up not putting in the long term effort of maintaining their oaths, eventually turning their Spren into a Deadeye. 

That got me thinking, are there any benefits former Radiants get to keep? Are there lingering negative effects (aside from overwhelming guilt and self loathing)?

 

If I recall, didn't Shallan have access to her Resonance and some miniscule versions of her Surges because of her Deadeye Testiment?

I would imagine a Radiant who healed from a serious injury or transitioned would get to keep their body, as it isn't tied to a continuous stream of Investiture. 

If their Spren died after the third ideal (but possibly didn't fully sever their bond) then they get a Deadeye Blade too.

They probably still count as being Invested in some way, though only residually. Maybe more like Connections to the use of Investiture over time, I think.

 

Anything else? Negative traits?

[therunner he/him]

Shallan started getting access to Surges and Resonances seemingly only once other Cryptics started trying to bond her again. 
And as seen from Kaladin, even before knowingly swearing Oaths, proto-bond can be formed.

So I think they will:

• If of 3rd Oath and beyond, they will have deadeye blade. That they likely have to bond with gemstone anyway, because their Oaths are dead.
• Any physical changes due to healing will persist.

And that is it. They will basically just be Shardbearer, with no other notable things going on. 

Nor will they remain Invested to any extent, the Investiture comes from the Bond, and since spren is Deadeye, the Bond has been broken.

[Trusk'our he/him]

33 minutes ago, therunner said:

Shallan started getting access to Surges and Resonances seemingly only once other Cryptics started trying to bond her again. 

Didn't she say she thought she had a bit of them before bonding Pattern? (Coppermind says this happened in RoW chapter 115, though I would double check it if I had the book).

Though, her bond wasn't severed cleanly because she didn't have the correct Intent to do so, or so Kalak said, if I recall. 

 

Though, if the person isn't a child without a full understanding, the bond will probably just be severed altogether and they'll lose those residual Surges.

[therunner he/him]

10 hours ago, Trusk'our said:

Didn't she say she thought she had a bit of them before bonding Pattern? (Coppermind says this happened in RoW chapter 115, though I would double check it if I had the book).

Somewhat yes, but Kaladin also exhibited variety of powers before formally swearing an Oath at the end of TWoK

• Reverse Lashing (with arrows during runs)
• Full lashing (climbing in chasms)
• Breathing in Stormlight and healing (after being left in the storm)

So budding Radiant can exhibit Surges and other facets of Radiancy even before they formally swear an Oath.

 

Shallan does have multiple unusual things going on, but her exhibiting surges before fully bonding Pattern doesn't seem to be one of them.

[Frustration]

There is a WoB heavily implying that oathbreaker Radiants can continue to use their surges if they have the blades.

Now it's possible that means actively summoning, os something along those lines. I don't know.

Spoiler

Havoc (paraphrased)

In Way of Kings, Shallan is being chased by Cryptics. She begins to summon her Shardblade, stops and then Soulcasts for the first time. We know from Words of Radiance that it's her bond to Pattern, her Shardblade that allows her to Soulcast. So my question is, if Shallan had not begun to summon her Blade, would she have been able to Soulcast?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

She would not have been able to. Good question! Wow. No one has ever asked me that before.

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/86/#e5675

 

 

 

I would say the deadblades would work like odd Honorblades but a little weaker personally.

[Jult]

The Sunlit Man spoilers:

Spoiler

Nomad still has platespren from both sets of renounced oaths following him around.

As for weaknesses, I'm speculating, but breaking a Nahel bond must cause some damage to your Spiritweb, right?

Maybe it'd make you more susceptible to forms of Investiture that manipulate your Spiritweb? (Mistborn Era 1 spoilers):

Spoiler

Like how Kandra are more susceptible to Rioting and Soothing?