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[Experience he/him]

I personally think that discussing distro more is not very helpful at this point in time. It would be much more helpful for players to give reads they have on other players and then vote on those reads because that is information that we can actually use to solve the game. I fear that there are elims that are hiding behind the low activity wall and would be forced out if more people discussed their reads and thoughts other than how many smokers there may or may not be in the game. 

[|TJ| he/him]

1 minute ago, Ookla the Broken said:

So I’m assuming you’re using the coinshot as an example and not just assuming they stole the coinshot. The problem is that there’s a lot of role combinations they could’ve stolen or removed. Also, we don’t know if they actually gifted max smoker’s, we could be missing roles and don’t know it yet. So this is giving E!lean to me. There’s a lot of assumptions that I don’t think have basis

Yeah, the Coinshot is an example, but a good one because in such a case, there is certainty that they cannot Steal any more roles. 

I've just explained why it would not be possible for them to remove roles at all because of the exact 8 Smoker claims. We do not have missing roles. The only assumption here is we do not have an unclaimed Smoker, which is easy to confirm because there is no advantage for an unclaimed Smoker not to claim now. If they did not donate max Smokers, we should be seeing the presence of vanillas, which we haven't. So I disagree that the assumptions are baseless. I think assuming that we do not have a 9th Smoker and we do not have vanillas are actually quite reasonable assumptions. 

I'm not intending the 'if they stole x roles' analysis to be useful now. It will be a reference for the future to come back to, to see which case makes sense and then you can match what has happened to then see how many claims were truthful. 

[TwinStorm He/Him]

IHAT 

life is so busy rn what with finals and being sick I can't properly participate till the weekend, so voting off of vibes

[Experience he/him]

11 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Yeah, the Coinshot is an example, but a good one because in such a case, there is certainty that they cannot Steal any more roles. 

I've just explained why it would not be possible for them to remove roles at all because of the exact 8 Smoker claims. We do not have missing roles. The only assumption here is we do not have an unclaimed Smoker, which is easy to confirm because there is no advantage for an unclaimed Smoker not to claim now. If they did not donate max Smokers, we should be seeing the presence of vanillas, which we haven't. So I disagree that the assumptions are baseless. I think assuming that we do not have a 9th Smoker and we do not have vanillas are actually quite reasonable assumptions. 

I'm not intending the 'if they stole x roles' analysis to be useful now. It will be a reference for the future to come back to, to see which case makes sense and then you can match what has happened to then see how many claims were truthful. 

Is it not a bad idea for the elims to have a clear path to knowing who the villagers are with power roles? Also if you had to vote somebody right now who would it be?

[|TJ| he/him]

1 minute ago, Ookla the Counter said:

Is it not a bad idea for the elims to have a clear path to knowing who the villagers are with power roles? Also if you had to vote somebody right now who would it be?

I wouldn't have advocated for it if so many people hadn't claimed already or if the number was not exactly 8 Smokers lol. I believe knowing if elims removed no roles is equally important as well. And gimme a few for your second question, I'm going through the threads again.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

22 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

I personally think that discussing distro more is not very helpful at this point in time. It would be much more helpful for players to give reads they have on other players and then vote on those reads because that is information that we can actually use to solve the game. I fear that there are elims that are hiding behind the low activity wall and would be forced out if more people discussed their reads and thoughts other than how many smokers there may or may not be in the game. 

True

I'm going to leave my vote on IHAT, because I feel like he's trying to counter anything being said. It isn't very elim indicative, but I don't have anything more. TJ feels village to me, and my gut says Storm is also village but that's probably bias. Honor's Ghost is village too I feel, if she were an elim I think her team would get her to say more and not just vote without explanation.

[___ He/Him]

Totally from vibes from reading previous posts, I'm gonna throw my vote out there

OtC

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

14 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

True

I'm going to leave my vote on IHAT, because I feel like he's trying to counter anything being said. It isn't very elim indicative, but I don't have anything more. TJ feels village to me, and my gut says Storm is also village but that's probably bias. Honor's Ghost is village too I feel, if she were an elim I think her team would get her to say more and not just vote without explanation.

I can explain lol sorry I was decorating a gingerbread house, I voted IHAT bc I almost feel like he’s too innocent? Like yk I dunno I feel like he’s trying too hard to be helpful and innocent also just kinda vibes lol

[Myst He/Him]

13 minutes ago, Ookla The Vessel Of Honor said:

I can explain lol sorry I was decorating a gingerbread house, I voted IHAT bc I almost feel like he’s too innocent? Like yk I dunno I feel like he’s trying too hard to be helpful and innocent also just kinda vibes lol

Like, I suppose I can get that, but part of me is like, “being helpful is a crime?” As for all the vibe votes, that’s fair, we don’t have much to go on otherwise

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Just now, Ookla the Broken said:

Like, I suppose I can get that, but part of me is like, “being helpful is a crime?” As for all the vibe votes, that’s fair, we don’t have much to go on otherwise

Lolll sorrrryyyy now I feel kinda bad lollll

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, Ookla The Vessel Of Honor said:

Lolll sorrrryyyy now I feel kinda bad lollll

Nah, it’s good, there’s nothing really to go on. Me being nice isn’t any worse than other options. I wasn’t trying to guilt-trip, promise : )

Edited December 19, 2025 by Ookla the Broken
I added a comma

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Nah, it’s good, there’s nothing really to go on. Me being nice isn’t any worse than other options. I wasn’t trying to guilt-trip, promise : )

Okkkkkkk

[|TJ| he/him]

Village - TwinStorm, Mippo, Exp

Most of the others would be in a null or null+/- ;

I'd lean slight village on Jo maybe. Also IHAT. 

@Ookla The Vessel Of Honor, is there any specific reason that you claimed you were a Smoker in 2 different posts? 

@Doc12, this is regarding your case against Broken/IHAT last cycle. Don't you think KaladinSOHS has been behaving sort of similar and showing equal behaviour? I found both of them behave sorta similar. 

I think I agree with Stick here slightly that IHAT's "you cannot be Rioter" argument against Fura is way too TMI-y to come from an elim. Also the logic they follow - "claiming rioter is evil because it is easy to claim your action by pretending everyone is Smoking" is village-leaning mentality imo. 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

5 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Village - TwinStorm, Mippo, Exp

Most of the others would be in a null or null+/- ;

I'd lean slight village on Jo maybe. Also IHAT. 

@Ookla The Vessel Of Honor, is there any specific reason that you claimed you were a Smoker in 2 different posts? 

@Doc12, this is regarding your case against Broken/IHAT last cycle. Don't you think KaladinSOHS has been behaving sort of similar and showing equal behaviour? I found both of them behave sorta similar. 

I think I agree with Stick here slightly that IHAT's "you cannot be Rioter" argument against Fura is way too TMI-y to come from an elim. Also the logic they follow - "claiming rioter is evil because it is easy to claim your action by pretending everyone is Smoking" is village-leaning mentality imo. 

Idk lolll I claimed it bc we were talking abt roles again and I didn’t know if everyone had seen it

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Honestly super tempted to vote on TJ. Want to try to reread the thread and do actual analysis first, but the way he's talking about the number of smokers seems very eliminator to me.

TJ, it reads like you are trying to get all of the Smokers to reveal themself, in order to narrow down kills for seeker hunting.

I have not seen an actual source for the claim of 8 people claiming Smoker, and I think that number was effectively made up/exaggerated into existence.

I do not beleve that 8 people all honestly claimed Smoker to the same person, so while i accept a high number of smokers in the game, 8 specificaly feels like mis information.

Edited December 19, 2025 by A Jo in the Bush

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

Honestly super tempted to vote on TJ. Want to try to reread the thread and do actual analysis first, but the way he's talking about the number of smokers seems very eliminator to me.

TJ, it reads like you are trying to get all of the Smokers to reveal themself, in order to narrow down kills for seeker hunting.

I have not seen an actual source for the claim of 8 people claiming Smoker, and I think that number was effectively made up/exaggerated into existence.

I do not beleve that 8 people all honestly claimed Smoker to the same person, so while i accept a high number of smokers in the game, 8 specificaly feels like mis information.

The 8 smokers came up from there being 9 power roles, (8 + original smoker) and so that leaves another 7 normal villagers without roles, who if all got gifted smokers would be a total of 8 smokers 

I’ve expressed my problems with that number, I think there may be more than 8, as there’s no way to verify thug or Lurcher until someone doesn’t die, ie, only 1 kill during Night or something like that.

[Experience he/him]

VC rn:

Alvron (1): Broken

Exp/Counter (2): Stick, Story

IHAT (3): Wallfacer, Vessel, Wanderer

TJ (1): Exp/Counter

KaladinSHOS (1): TJ

So I feel like I have some overlaps here because of ooklas so idk if this is 100% correct. 

Based on some PMs TJ for now

[Experience he/him]

I'm worried that there is apparently no worry from elims regarding where the votes are currently sitting.

[___ He/Him]

How would you know if they were?

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

1 hour ago, |TJ| said:

@Doc12, this is regarding your case against Broken/IHAT last cycle. Don't you think KaladinSOHS has been behaving sort of similar and showing equal behaviour? I found both of them behave sorta similar. 

Can you point to some posts?

52 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

VC rn:

Alvron (1): Broken

Exp/Counter (2): Stick, Story

IHAT (3): Wallfacer, Vessel, Wanderer

TJ (1): Exp/Counter

KaladinSHOS (1): TJ

So I feel like I have some overlaps here because of ooklas so idk if this is 100% correct. 

Based on some PMs TJ for now

I'm KSOHS/KSauce

So the VC is:

Alvron (1): IHAT

Exp (2): Stick, Mippo

IHAT (3): KSauce, Honor's Ghost, Storm

TJ (1): Exp

KSauce (1): TJ

[Experience he/him]

35 minutes ago, Ookla The Story said:

How would you know if they were?

Because there would be players trying to vote for not IHAT because they don't want their teammate to die. 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I’m not going to be able to do analysis tonight, but I am going to trust my gut and vote for |TJ|.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

Because there would be players trying to vote for not IHAT because they don't want their teammate to die. 

They could be afraid to all pile on you or someone else without good reason

But yes, it is a bad sign. I don't know who else it could be though.

[Experience he/him]

6 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

They could be afraid to all pile on you or someone else without good reason

But yes, it is a bad sign. I don't know who else it could be though.

Yeah but it'd be very easy to switch the vote because of how few votes are on IHAT currently.

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

16 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

Yeah but it'd be very easy to switch the vote because of how few votes are on IHAT currently.

Now that I think of it...

Jo is kind of suspicious.

A little.

Though if he was an elim, me or TOW would probably be dead by now.

Still, I'd rather exe IHAT than anyone else right now.