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Posted
6 hours ago, xxGaea said:

Goooood morning everyone~

First things first, current vote count:
    Hoid Slayer/Ekkar Loral: (1) BigBadBagsworth
    KelsierApologist/Zyvoxid: (2) Hoid Slayer, Amanuensis
    IcedOutPenguin/___________: (1) Araris Valerian
    Doc12/Evi: (1) ThatOneWorldHopper
    Amanuensis/Kosm: (1) Doc12
    Araris Valerian/Arlun: (1) IcedOutPenguin

Speaking of courts, I can't decide if I think it is better to know pairs or not, especially since Courts will change over the course of the game.🤔 At the same time, it would be beneficial to know Court-pairings each cycle for Vote counting, since each "God" in play votes in-line with their priests. 

Rn, I'm going to hold off on voting since I don't have any gut-reads currently.

--

Leucosia eyed the gathered priests, listening with an aloof expression as arguments and accusations flew about around her. It seemed people were quick to point fingers as soon as anything went wrong, but she didn't have a clear indication for the exact ringleader yet--Arlun had been the first to throw out an accusation at ___________, but Ekkar and As If were the two who kept the momentum going. CD followed suit, though his vote was rescinded after a single response--curious, curious. 

CD observed the chaos. He was... unsure. He doesn't really know how this works, and has continued to be confused every time this happens. Speaking of which, how does this keep on happening? Almost everywhere he goes, there are some sort of murder people killing non-murder people, and all the people collectively killing another people, in almost the exact same pattern every time. How does this keep on happening??

~~~

I just don't really know how to play the game, so every time I start out with kinda piggybacking off of someone's vote, and then throughout the game, continuously getting convinced and unconvinced of different people. Others who have played with me before can confirm.

Posted
3 hours ago, IcedOutPenguin said:

And voting me first after saying two words doesn't?

Correct. Though I’m not sure what the two words has to do with anything. Voting C1 is necessary to generate discussion. But some votes are better at it than others, and IMO retaliatory votes are pointless on the same level as poke votes (the sort that are immediately retracted after the recipient posts). Presumably, you’d unvote me if I moved/canceled my vote, which removes most of the threat of death. There’s also no basis for you to convince anyone else to vote on me.

On the flip side, I’d encourage anyone who thinks any early C1 retaliatory vote is anti-village to join my vote on you. And I like my votes to be a bit sticky.

6 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

I just don't really know how to play the game, so every time I start out with kinda piggybacking off of someone's vote, and then throughout the game, continuously getting convinced and unconvinced of different people. Others who have played with me before can confirm.

I’m generally of the opinion that anyone who claims to know what they are doing C1 is overestimating their own abilities. I would suggest occasionally trying to switch things up and look to place a vote that other players piggyback on. Doesn’t really matter who it’s on, but you can only get so far by following other folks. And if you’re elim, it will give your team a leg up.

Posted
1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said:

Correct. Though I’m not sure what the two words has to do with anything. Voting C1 is necessary to generate discussion. But some votes are better at it than others, and IMO retaliatory votes are pointless on the same level as poke votes (the sort that are immediately retracted after the recipient posts). Presumably, you’d unvote me if I moved/canceled my vote, which removes most of the threat of death. There’s also no basis for you to convince anyone else to vote on me.

On the flip side, I’d encourage anyone who thinks any early C1 retaliatory vote is anti-village to join my vote on you. And I like my votes to be a bit sticky.

I’m generally of the opinion that anyone who claims to know what they are doing C1 is overestimating their own abilities. I would suggest occasionally trying to switch things up and look to place a vote that other players piggyback on. Doesn’t really matter who it’s on, but you can only get so far by following other folks. And if you’re elim, it will give your team a leg up.

Wait so instead of following 1 folk, I should be following 2 folks?

And I see that white text. You cant get me.

Also, all you people with worldhopper characters who consistently appear, funny how they consistently get put into a murder case with the exact same format, the death penalty, and a group of murderers instead of one where the murderers are still murdering?

Posted
5 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Wait so instead of following 1 folk, I should be following 2 folks?

No, you should strive to occasionally be the folk that other folks follow. As Lirin would say (paraphrased), “Someone must do what is right, because it is right. Only then can others follow.”

Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Correct. Though I’m not sure what the two words has to do with anything. Voting C1 is necessary to generate discussion. But some votes are better at it than others, and IMO retaliatory votes are pointless on the same level as poke votes (the sort that are immediately retracted after the recipient posts). Presumably, you’d unvote me if I moved/canceled my vote, which removes most of the threat of death. There’s also no basis for you to convince anyone else to vote on me.

 

So I voted you, no biggie

Edited by IcedOutPenguin
Posted
2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

No, you should strive to occasionally be the folk that other folks follow. As Lirin would say (paraphrased), “Someone must do what is right, because it is right. Only then can others follow.”

Oh, that makes sense.

1 hour ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Actually, I'm kind of curious. Every game I've played, TUO has opened with a "how's it feel to be elim again, Polly?" Where did that come from?

I doubt that. I did a quick check, and I didn't see that?

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Doc12 said:

Well As If, I'm sure everyone will say they liked your old nose more! 

(Evi jumps As If and punches them :D)

Evi doesn't trust Kosm. Something about them, it was like memories of past lives together where they had...worked together? killed each other? They were the only person she half-recognized from times before her memory. :P 

Somewhere out of sight, Kosm felt a tickle behind her nose, then quickly manipulated her internal biology to quietly dissipate the sneeze. Had someone recognized her investiture? Or did she choose a form that was so generic, she could easily be mistaken for another? Whatever the case, Kosm hoped that whoever was thinking about her would prove to be an ally over an enemy or, worse, a forlorn lover or long lost relative.

2 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

Back from school and tired

Polly with your luck, you're elim :D 

So if I am understanding this correctly, Kelsier Apologist is Polly, who now has 3 votes?

ED1T:

Purple text will be RP, black text is just me

Edited by Amanuensis
Posted
1 minute ago, Amanuensis said:

Somewhere out of sight, Kosm felt a tickle behind her nose, then quickly manipulated her internal biology to quietly dissipate the sneeze. Had someone recognized her investiture? Or did she choose a form that was so generic, she could easily be mistaken for another? Whatever the case, Kosm hoped they would prove to be an ally over an enemy or an admirer.

So if I am understanding this correctly, Kelsier Apologist is Polly, who now has 3 votes?

Looks like it. I think he joins a bunch of games but then like, never posts.

Posted (edited)
54 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Correct. Though I’m not sure what the two words has to do with anything. Voting C1 is necessary to generate discussion. But some votes are better at it than others, and IMO retaliatory votes are pointless on the same level as poke votes (the sort that are immediately retracted after the recipient posts). Presumably, you’d unvote me if I moved/canceled my vote, which removes most of the threat of death. There’s also no basis for you to convince anyone else to vote on me.

On the flip side, I’d encourage anyone who thinks any early C1 retaliatory vote is anti-village to join my vote on you. And I like my votes to be a bit sticky.

I’m generally of the opinion that anyone who claims to know what they are doing C1 is overestimating their own abilities. I would suggest occasionally trying to switch things up and look to place a vote that other players piggyback on. Doesn’t really matter who it’s on, but you can only get so far by following other folks. And if you’re elim, it will give your team a leg up.

I will say I did consider voting with you but I also think under a certain threshold of game experience (no shade at Penguin), that's probably NAI. Do you have any more inklings of suspicion or is this the hill you want to build your porch on for D1? (Fair to say no, there's a page and a half of low-info content and I basically got nothing rn)

1 hour ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

CD observed the chaos. He was... unsure. He doesn't really know how this works, and has continued to be confused every time this happens. Speaking of which, how does this keep on happening? Almost everywhere he goes, there are some sort of murder people killing non-murder people, and all the people collectively killing another people, in almost the exact same pattern every time. How does this keep on happening??

~~~

I just don't really know how to play the game, so every time I start out with kinda piggybacking off of someone's vote, and then throughout the game, continuously getting convinced and unconvinced of different people. Others who have played with me before can confirm.

So like. I think the biggest thing I can say is there's no like pre-determined way to play the game, other than voting during the day and using actions where appropriate until only a single team is alive. We're really all coming in with our unique perspectives, and sometimes those perspectives may be skewed towards alignments. Generally the best way to play the game is coming up with topics for discussion that can reveal important clues and holding as many people's feet to the fire as possible to get a sense of their motivations. D1 is usually the hardest because we have no prior alignment flips / deaths to go off of, so often people end up throwing out weak early game votes and/or debating strategies with the known mechanics.

I'll post this now and go read the rules again and see if I can come up with a decent example.

Edited by Amanuensis
Posted
15 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I will say I did consider voting with you but I also think under a certain threshold of game experience (no shade at Penguin), that's probably NAI. Do you have any more inklings of suspicion or is this the hill you want to build your porch on for D1? (Fair to say no, there's a page and a half of low-info content and I basically got nothing rn)

So like. I think the biggest thing I can say is there's no like pre-determined way to play the game, other than voting during the day and using actions where appropriate until only a single team is alive. We're really all coming in with our unique perspectives, and sometimes those perspectives may be skewed towards alignments. Generally the best way to play the game is coming up with topics for discussion that can reveal important clues and holding as many people's feet to the fire as possible to get a sense of their motivations. D1 is usually the hardest because we have no prior alignment flips / deaths to go off of, so often people end up throwing out weak early game votes and/or debating strategies with the known mechanics.

I'll post this now and go read the rules again and see if I can come up with a decent example.

Oh thanks!

uhhhh who wants to go stand in this campfire?

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Oh thanks!

uhhhh who wants to go stand in this campfire?

In a non-literal sense, it's like me keeping my vote on Polly so they are clearly in the lead. Whenever they appear, we might be able to glean something from their reaction to possibly getting exed @KelsierApologist

 

Okay, so I read the rules. Couple things:

  • I am the bottom most seniority in my Court, which I think means if I am tied with anyone with higher seniority, I'm the one that's exed, yes? @A Jo in the Bush (ED2T: I now see Seniority is in the player list, glad Araris is older than me 😂)
  • I would be cool with the Elsecaller Court voting to give me her breath, although it's probably a bad idea given I expect(/hope) to be killed sooner rather than later
    • On that note, whoever gets to make the new Court, feel free to pick me, if you've got the risk apetite :D
  • Bondsmith Court is really interesting; we get to decide what powers come to us in what order, so maybe we could talk about our preferences in thread

 

ED1T:

21 hours ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

Oh lmao. This makes sense now.

21 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Yes, let's. ___________

Edited by Amanuensis
Posted
24 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

I will say I did consider voting with you but I also think under a certain threshold of game experience (no shade at Penguin), that's probably NAI. Do you have any more inklings of suspicion or is this the hill you want to build your porch on for D1? (Fair to say no, there's a page and a half of low-info content and I basically got nothing rn)

Generally agree on Penguin and new players but as you say, not a whole lot else to go on.

My other thought is related to TOW’s response to my vote. “I would vote for X except for Y” is odd when no reason for voting is given to begin with. So maybe I’ll build a second mini-porch on that hill in case the other one burns down.

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Generally agree on Penguin and new players but as you say, not a whole lot else to go on.

My other thought is related to TOW’s response to my vote. “I would vote for X except for Y” is odd when no reason for voting is given to begin with. So maybe I’ll build a second mini-porch on that hill in case the other one burns down.

NGL I reread again and came around to Penguin, since no one else is voting and ties are better than not ties.

5 hours ago, IcedOutPenguin said:

And voting me first after saying two words doesn't?

This actually feels abnormally snippy, but I will be the first to say tone is hard to read from text. I would somewhat expect it to be shrugged off in a less defensive / rebuttaly way, which they kinda do after you elaborate?

1 hour ago, IcedOutPenguin said:

So I voted you, no biggie

But I don't know. That "no biggie" contrast is doing a lot here, at least from my PoV. Feels slightly coached? Could see a world where a more experienced elim downplays the severity of your vote in doc and that cascades into this response.

That all said, I am not familiar with Penguin as a player or their exact number of games; just have vague vibes I'm working from here.

8 hours ago, xxGaea said:

Goooood morning everyone~

Good morning Gaea, thank you for the VC

  • KelsierApologist/Zyvoxid: (2) Hoid Slayer, TwinStorm
  • IcedOutPenguin/___________: (2) Araris Valerian, Amanuensis
  • Hoid Slayer/Ekkar Loral: (1) BigBadBagsworth
  • Doc12/Evi: (1) ThatOneWorldHopper
  • Amanuensis/Kosm: (1) Doc12
  • Araris Valerian/Arlun: (1) IcedOutPenguin
Edited by Amanuensis
Posted
1 hour ago, Amanuensis said:

I am the bottom most seniority in my Court, which I think means if I am tied with anyone with higher seniority, I'm the one that's exed, yes? @A Jo in the Bush (ED2T: I now see Seniority is in the player list, glad Araris is older than me 😂)

Hmmm, i may need to rephrase how my rules are written.

If there is a tie, i will look at the voters, and find the seniormost priest among them. Their vote will be the tie breaker. That means that currently BBB will always have ties break in thier favor.

Posted
4 minutes ago, A Jo in the Bush said:

Hmmm, i may need to rephrase how my rules are written.

If there is a tie, i will look at the voters, and find the seniormost priest among them. Their vote will be the tie breaker. That means that currently BBB will always have ties break in thier favor.

When does the cycle end

Posted
4 hours ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Actually, I'm kind of curious. Every game I've played, TUO has opened with a "how's it feel to be elim again, Polly?" Where did that come from?

That's not me, but I do remember somebody doing that. I might have done it in response to them saying it? Not sure.

2 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Correct. Though I’m not sure what the two words has to do with anything. Voting C1 is necessary to generate discussion. But some votes are better at it than others, and IMO retaliatory votes are pointless on the same level as poke votes (the sort that are immediately retracted after the recipient posts). Presumably, you’d unvote me if I moved/canceled my vote, which removes most of the threat of death. There’s also no basis for you to convince anyone else to vote on me.

On the flip side, I’d encourage anyone who thinks any early C1 retaliatory vote is anti-village to join my vote on you. And I like my votes to be a bit sticky.

I’m generally of the opinion that anyone who claims to know what they are doing C1 is overestimating their own abilities. I would suggest occasionally trying to switch things up and look to place a vote that other players piggyback on. Doesn’t really matter who it’s on, but you can only get so far by following other folks. And if you’re elim, it will give your team a leg up.

I actually don't like calling a retaliatory vote bad here. It's day one, and revenge is as good a reason as any. Plus, many elims with back down under that kind of pressure, so it can be AI at times.

2 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

 

Purple text will be RP, black text is just me

Devotary of Spontaneity, is that you?

Just now, IcedOutPenguin said:

When does the cycle end

Around this time tomorrow I believe?

Posted
27 minutes ago, The Unknown Hammerer said:

I actually don't like calling a retaliatory vote bad here. It's day one, and revenge is as good a reason as any. Plus, many elims with back down under that kind of pressure, so it can be AI at times.

I said it was pointless (roughly equal to a non-committal poke vote), which is different from bad. Part of the problem comes from the statement that the vote is retaliatory. I’m also skeptical of your claim that elims would back down in response. Do you have examples of this? As I said, there isn’t actually any pressure.

Posted
Just now, Araris Valerian said:

Do you have examples of this?

Lol. Literally me, my first game. Not this game though.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

Whatever the case, Kosm hoped that whoever was thinking about her would prove to be an ally over an enemy or, worse, a forlorn lover or long lost relative.

Forlorn lover it is! 

Something about Kosm... Not her appearance... the voice? the mannerism? Evi could imagine? remember? the voice soft in affection, shrill in anger, delightful in mirth... Something about Kosm drew and repelled Evi in equal measure. Whatever they had, it didn't end in peace and bliss. Could they have poisoned the Returned? What poisoned whatever they had had together? 

Either way. She had to know. Had to get closer. 

"Kosm!" She hurried up to the other priest. Sketched a quick curtsey. "Greetings, my name is Evi - I'm sorry to intrude, but I thought you sounded...familiar. May I ask, which Returned do you serve?"

Actual analysis time, there's... not really much?

1) Araris starts an Iced vote.

2) Hoid Slayer starts a Polly vote.

3) Worldhopper throws out a probably randomized poke vote on me.

4) CD poke votes Hoid Slayer, then retracts.

5) Aman shows up and joins the Polly vote, starting the first actual pile.

6) BBB puts a new vote on Hoid Slayer. 

7) Iced votes Araris back

8, I poke vote on Aman

9) Twinstorm brings the Polly vote to 3

10) Aman switches their vote to Iced

So first of all Aman 

In terms of gut reads, there's not really much. Worldhopper is doing a randomized vote which they did in the last 2 games I played with them. CD is kinda following the crowd. Iced is poking back when poked. I think the only thing that really jumps out at me is Aman and  Twinstorm jumping on to make the Polly vote 3. (Aman switched their vote away to make a tie, which is something I enjoy doing myself) 

Gaea, appreciate a fellow vote-counter. Araris, nice to play with you again, you're a little scary but that's part of the fun. Aman, look forward to RPing with you. 

Joe, it has been forever, glad to be back!

 

Edited by Doc12
Posted
31 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Araris, nice to play with you again, you're a little scary but that's part of the fun.

I am a cuddly, stuffed bear with little brain (but big heart). There is absolutely no reason to be scared of me :P.

Posted

I intended to post again earlier, but time got away from me and I've had a busy day

22 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Ekkar

Why you change PFP?

(this what people are doing right? i still don't fully understand how to play. tis fun though)

22 hours ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren said:

He changes to a new cosmere character every month.

Yup 😋

22 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said:

Oh ok

Ekkar then I guess

still don’t get it

Normally, I wouldn't take a vote off someone until they've had a chance to react to it - as that's kinda the point of a poke in the first place

Btw, I'm also keeping an eye on you for this, although you're reading Village so far

19 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

Kosm is currently asleep. Or, at least, in their chamber. Don't bother trying to open the door or knock as it's triple locked and soundproof.

I am going to follow her example shortly, but first: Kelsier Apologist. I've always felt that Survivorists tend to be the selfish, murderous sorts.

Personally, I don't love Aman backing me up here - especially when Polly hasn't spoken yet. Although it's possible that since I used a different name, Aman didn't pick up on that

Plus based off Aman's later behavior (breaking the tie to pile Penguin, even if I don't see anything quite weird with Penguin's actions - I see where they're coming from) they're reading Village to me for now

10 hours ago, xxGaea said:

Goooood morning everyone~

First things first, current vote count:
    Hoid Slayer/Ekkar Loral: (1) BigBadBagsworth
    KelsierApologist/Zyvoxid: (2) Hoid Slayer, Amanuensis
    IcedOutPenguin/___________: (1) Araris Valerian
    Doc12/Evi: (1) ThatOneWorldHopper
    Amanuensis/Kosm: (1) Doc12
    Araris Valerian/Arlun: (1) IcedOutPenguin

Speaking of courts, I can't decide if I think it is better to know pairs or not, especially since Courts will change over the course of the game.🤔 At the same time, it would be beneficial to know Court-pairings each cycle for Vote counting, since each "God" in play votes in-line with their priests. 

Rn, I'm going to hold off on voting since I don't have any gut-reads currently.

--

Leucosia eyed the gathered priests, listening with an aloof expression as arguments and accusations flew about around her. It seemed people were quick to point fingers as soon as anything went wrong, but she didn't have a clear indication for the exact ringleader yet--Arlun had been the first to throw out an accusation at ___________, but Ekkar and As If were the two who kept the momentum going. CD followed suit, though his vote was rescinded after a single response--curious, curious. 

Appreciate Gaea sharing the VC here. It's a simple, but generally Village coded, answer

I don't appreciate the lack of a vote as much, but everyone's got different styles

8 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

This reads to me like you are rather uninterested in solving the game.

This statement by Araris I found a little odd, as pretty much everything that's been going on thus far has been light accusations with little to no evidence behind them. Nothing really serious, though

ALTHOUGH,

4 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

Correct. Though I’m not sure what the two words has to do with anything. Voting C1 is necessary to generate discussion. But some votes are better at it than others, and IMO retaliatory votes are pointless on the same level as poke votes (the sort that are immediately retracted after the recipient posts). Presumably, you’d unvote me if I moved/canceled my vote, which removes most of the threat of death. There’s also no basis for you to convince anyone else to vote on me.

On the flip side, I’d encourage anyone who thinks any early C1 retaliatory vote is anti-village to join my vote on you. And I like my votes to be a bit sticky.

I’m generally of the opinion that anyone who claims to know what they are doing C1 is overestimating their own abilities. I would suggest occasionally trying to switch things up and look to place a vote that other players piggyback on. Doesn’t really matter who it’s on, but you can only get so far by following other folks. And if you’re elim, it will give your team a leg up.

I kinda do like this justification

4 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

No, you should strive to occasionally be the folk that other folks follow. As Lirin would say (paraphrased), “Someone must do what is right, because it is right. Only then can others follow.”

Right... but how to know what is right when the line between what is known and what is lies is so blurred? Every act is a step in the dark, and who is to say yours is any more guided than another's?

5 hours ago, TwinStorm said:

Back from school and tired

Polly with your luck, you're elim :D 

And we get MORE Polly votes

TwinStorm, this seems an awful lot like you're tagging on someone who's already facing pressure - and I don't like it, even if it's a bit blatant for an elim

1 hour ago, Doc12 said:

Forlorn lover it is! 

Something about Kosm... Not her appearance... the voice? the mannerism? Evi could imagine? remember? the voice soft in affection, shrill in anger, delightful in mirth... Something about Kosm drew and repelled Evi in equal measure. Whatever they had, it didn't end in peace and bliss. Could they have poisoned the Returned? What poisoned whatever they had had together? 

Either way. She had to know. Had to get closer. 

"Kosm!" She hurried up to the other priest. Sketched a quick curtsey. "Greetings, my name is Evi - I'm sorry to intrude, but I thought you sounded...familiar. May I ask, which Returned do you serve?"

Actual analysis time, there's... not really much?

1) Araris starts an Iced vote.

2) Hoid Slayer starts a Polly vote.

3) Worldhopper throws out a probably randomized poke vote on me.

4) CD poke votes Hoid Slayer, then retracts.

5) Aman shows up and joins the Polly vote, starting the first actual pile.

6) BBB puts a new vote on Hoid Slayer. 

7) Iced votes Araris back

8, I poke vote on Aman

9) Twinstorm brings the Polly vote to 3

10) Aman switches their vote to Iced

So first of all Aman 

In terms of gut reads, there's not really much. Worldhopper is doing a randomized vote which they did in the last 2 games I played with them. CD is kinda following the crowd. Iced is poking back when poked. I think the only thing that really jumps out at me is Aman and  Twinstorm jumping on to make the Polly vote 3. (Aman switched their vote away to make a tie, which is something I enjoy doing myself) 

Gaea, appreciate a fellow vote-counter. Araris, nice to play with you again, you're a little scary but that's part of the fun. Aman, look forward to RPing with you. 

Joe, it has been forever, glad to be back!

 

Thank you for the notes - hope you don't mind if I keep them for when I finally get around to taking my own 😋

This reads Village to me, both with the playful RPing and analysis

Ekkar paced back and forth in the courtyard, sweat streaming down his brow. It was halfway through the day, yet he struggled to engage the fellow members of his court in decisive action. The makings of a plan were forming in his head - but he could not worry about them now.

While he had first chosen to lobby an accusation at Zyvoxid due to a resemblance to an old enemy (frenemy?) of Evinir's, Matrim's unusual behavior had dragged his attention away. And since that act, Matrim had failed to make another comment - so perhaps it was time to pile the pressure.

Ekkar had chosen to trust Kosm, Evi, and Leucosia for now - although it would be nice if Leucosia could offer some solid thoughts now that more action had transpired, and the clock ticked. Ekkar intended to take time to formulate his own thoughts later, but with a busy schedule, he was worried about his availability - especially in such a time of crisis.

Arlun was apparently a cute, cuddly stuffed bear.

And Evinir still had not responded.

Forgot to ask - @A Jo in the Bush, when a person is exed, is their Court revealed?

Posted
1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said:

I said it was pointless (roughly equal to a non-committal poke vote), which is different from bad. Part of the problem comes from the statement that the vote is retaliatory. I’m also skeptical of your claim that elims would back down in response. Do you have examples of this? As I said, there isn’t actually any pressure.

I don't find it any more pointless than any other first vote. Trying to say yours isn't while theirs is is just silly. The fact that it's generating this much discussion proves its point.

I'll admit it's generally newer elims or people who haven't been elim in a bit, but elims are on average more likely to back down under less pressure. Like Iced said, they did it recently, there's been a couple others that I can't name, but this is a common phenomenon. 

I'm not sure why you think there isn't much pressure. You're, I believe, one vote away from being tied for the lead currently. A vote is by nature pressure. I've said it a few times, but they are under no obligation to unvote you if you unvote them. 

Maybe you don't find it to be very dangerous because you're an experienced semi-returning player who others would be hesitant to exe and they're newer and more likely to change their vote, but that's not a very good reason to call it categorically pointless. 

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