Entr0pic He/him Posted February 24, 2025 Posted February 24, 2025 So, I’m wondering. Could a feruchemist store an attribute in a shardblade? So, i know shardblades are extremely invested. Would that clash with the storing of the attribute? Assuming you can store an attribute in it, would that Feruchemical charge go away when the shardblade returns to Shadesmar/radiant Spren? Also, we know the percentages of each god metal in the shardblade depends on the type of spren, i assume a cultivationspren blade would be made mostly or cultivations metal, and honors metal with an honorspren blade.would the type of shardblade (ie living/dead) affect the storing or the possibility of storing? also for future reference, should this go in stormlight or mistborn forums? 1
Treamayne Posted February 24, 2025 Posted February 24, 2025 (edited) 19 hours ago, Entr0pic said: also for future reference, should this go in stormlight or mistborn forums? This should go in Cosmere Discussion - Which is the spot for discussing anything that references two or more series/shardworlds. 19 hours ago, Entr0pic said: So, i know shardblades are extremely invested. Would that clash with the storing of the attribute? Not only extremely invested, already Sapient, so they will resist Storage on two axes. Not only those two, but because the "metalmind" is already filled with investiture, adding more would be like trying to pour water into an already filled cup (partially why Nightblood leaks black smoke, it's excess investiture being pushed out as he tries eating more). And if those hurdles were not enough, you also require Intent. you cannot store into a Metalmind if you do not alreay know what Attribute will be stored, and how that Attribute functions when stored and Tapped (as seen in Bands, when Wayne first steals the spear tip, he does not recognize that is a type of metalmind, because he does not have the Intent required to recognize, see, or access those storages). I won't say it's impossible, because we do not have a WoB saying it is impossible - but based on all known information, I will say it is extremely improbable that a Shardblade could be used as a Metalmind. Edited February 25, 2025 by Treamayne SPAG 1
#1 Taln Fan he/him Posted February 24, 2025 Posted February 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Treamayne said: This should go in Cosmere Discussion - Which is the spot for discussing anything that references two or more series/shardworlds. Treamayne is correct. I've moved this topic to the Cosmere Discussion thread 3
DoctaDajman Posted February 24, 2025 Posted February 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Treamayne said: This should go in Cosmere Discussion - Which is the spot for discussing anything that references two or more series/shardworlds. Not only extremely invested, already Sapient, so they will resist Storage on two axes. Not only those two, but because the "metalmind" is already filled with investiture, adding more would be like trying to pour water into an already filled cup (partially why Nightblood leaks black smoke, it's excess investiture being pushed out as he tries eating more). And if those hurdles were not enough, you also require Intent. you cannot store into a Metalmind if you do not alreay know what Attribute will be stored, and how that Attribute functions when stored and Tapped (as seen in Bands, when Wayne first steals the spear tip, he does not recognize that is a type of metalmind, because he does not have the Intent required to recognize, see, or access those storages). I won;t ay it's impossible, because we do not have a WoB saying it is impossible - but based on all known information, I will say it is extremely improbable that a Shardblade could be used as a Metalmind. I imagine, in my mind, that it would be easier to allomantically burn a shardblade given it is God metal than to store into one. However, if you had a chunk of shardblade, or honorblade, would the shard of metal simply fuzz through your entire digestive tract and leave you dead? If I remember correctly there is a chunk of honorblade floating around now that may be small enough for someone to ingest... I wonder what powers they may recieve burning it? 2
Treamayne Posted February 24, 2025 Posted February 24, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DoctaDajman said: However, if you had a chunk of shardblade, or honorblade, would the shard of metal simply fuzz through your entire digestive tract and leave you dead? I think it requires Intent to cut, otherwise all of those scenes with people sticking their shardbalde in the ground (or table or whatever) would have the blade falling all the way down to the hilt after they let go of the handle. WoB: Spoiler Quote Questioner If a Mistborn were to burn a piece of a Shardblade, what would happen? Brandon Sanderson This would be hard to make happen, but it would be possible. A Shardblade is going to act as, basically, an alloy of the god metal of Honor and so what would it do? RAFO, but it is possible and it would do something. It would not be inert. It would be Allomanticaly viable. Footnote: This question was also addressed here. Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019) Quote Kuron (paraphrased) Is it possible for a full Mistborn to ingest and burn a Shardblade? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) It is possible, and it is possible that I might be able to see that in the future if I can fit that in. Dragonsteel 2022 (Nov. 14, 2022) Quote Questioner What would happen if a person from Scadrial were to try to burn a manifested metal from Roshar? Brandon Sanderson So you're meaning they're in Shadesmar, they manifest it, and they try to burn it, right? Questioner Say a Spren of a Radiant manifests as a bead of metal instead of a Shardblade? Brandon Sanderson You're not going to be able to burn that if it's something that's coming from a spren, because that's not going to be treated as a metal in your body. Like, those are God Metals, and that one is actually alive and awake and it's just not gonna work. There are ways, though, that you could make that work. So it's totally possible, but you're gonna need something that's not an alive spren that's manifest like that. You're gonna need some way to get access to some tanavastium or something like that that's not, like, some living being. Dragonsteel 2023 (Nov. 21, 2023) Quote NeedsToShutUp What would happen if Hoid tried to burn the shard that came off Ishar's Honorblade? Brandon Sanderson If you were able to get a hold of that piece and burn it, it would act like burning... You would be burning a very pure form of a God Metal, and those have some very interesting effects. RAFO. YouTube Spoiler Stream 3 (Dec. 16, 2021) Hope that helps Edited February 24, 2025 by Treamayne SPAG 1
alder24 Posted February 25, 2025 Posted February 25, 2025 19 hours ago, Entr0pic said: So, I’m wondering. Could a feruchemist store an attribute in a shardblade? So, i know shardblades are extremely invested. Would that clash with the storing of the attribute? Assuming you can store an attribute in it, would that Feruchemical charge go away when the shardblade returns to Shadesmar/radiant Spren? Also, we know the percentages of each god metal in the shardblade depends on the type of spren, i assume a cultivationspren blade would be made mostly or cultivations metal, and honors metal with an honorspren blade.would the type of shardblade (ie living/dead) affect the storing or the possibility of storing? also for future reference, should this go in stormlight or mistborn forums? Shardblade can't be used as a Hemalurgic spike because it's too invested and it can't hold more charge, so it can't be used as a mealmind for the same reason. Spoiler Questioner Can a Shardblade, dead or alive, become a Hemalurgic spike? Brandon Sanderson It's already too strongly Invested for this. It couldn't hold anymore charge. Starsight Release Party (Nov. 26, 2019) All Shardblade are considered the same alloy, even though their composition vary slightly. They would all do the same thing. Spoiler Alpharho The metal of Shardblades. Cultivationspren versus honorspren, for example. Are they different metals? Brandon Sanderson No, but good question. Alpharho Are all orders the same alloy, essentially? Brandon Sanderson Yes. There's a little asterisk on there, but not in the way you're asking... You could call those all the same alloy. Because the mixture to different spren is different, I think that you could argue that each one is its own alloy. Alpharho So, different proportions of tanavastium? Brandon Sanderson Yes, but it doesn't quite work that way with these magics, right? I'm going to say that's up to the individual cosmerologist who is in the world, the arcanist, defining it. You would be able to find enough differences to legitimately call them different alloys if you wanted to. Alpharho Would you say different ratios of the same two metals? Brandon Sanderson Yes. They are not going to have a third one in them, if that's what you're asking. But it doesn't quite work that way. Like, if you were going to take brass, you could measure the exact percentage. In this case, it is a thing; it's not like you could divide it up and split them apart, because they are a thing. And that thing would be called one thing. Alpharho But you won't say what that thing is called? Brandon Sanderson No, I won't say what that thing is called. But I think you and the 17th Sharders and folks that are dividing them would prefer to call them ten different things, and I think their nomenclature would be relevant. Skyward Denver signing (Nov. 15, 2018) 18 hours ago, DoctaDajman said: I imagine, in my mind, that it would be easier to allomantically burn a shardblade given it is God metal than to store into one. Those two things would probably be equally as hard. You can't burn a Shardblade because it's alive and thus it's not considered as metal by your body - that's the reason why you can't store in it or use it as a spike. If you were to strip life out of Shardblade, you would be left with pure god metal and thus you could use it in Metallic Arts. Spoiler Questioner What would happen if a person from Scadrial were to try to burn a manifested metal from Roshar? Brandon Sanderson So you're meaning they're in Shadesmar, they manifest it, and they try to burn it, right? Questioner Say a Spren of a Radiant manifests as a bead of metal instead of a Shardblade? Brandon Sanderson You're not going to be able to burn that if it's something that's coming from a spren, because that's not going to be treated as a metal in your body. Like, those are God Metals, and that one is actually alive and awake and it's just not gonna work. There are ways, though, that you could make that work. So it's totally possible, but you're gonna need something that's not an alive spren that's manifest like that. You're gonna need some way to get access to some tanavastium or something like that that's not, like, some living being. Dragonsteel 2023 (Nov. 21, 2023) 2
CoderDrag0n8 He/They Posted February 26, 2025 Posted February 26, 2025 What if you tried to burn a dead (Deadeye spren) Shardblade? Would that work?
Treamayne Posted February 26, 2025 Posted February 26, 2025 2 minutes ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: What if you tried to burn a dead (Deadeye spren) Shardblade? Would that work? No. Asterisk. WoB: Spoiler Quote word_thief What would happen if a Mistborn ingested the metal of a Shardblade/Plate? Brandon Sanderson A Shardblade is Invested. A Mistborn isn't likely to have a tie to that type of Investiture. So probably nothing would happen… General Twitter 2013 (Oct. 24, 2013) Quote Questioner What would happen if a person from Scadrial were to try to burn a manifested metal from Roshar? Brandon Sanderson So you're meaning they're in Shadesmar, they manifest it, and they try to burn it, right? Questioner Say a Spren of a Radiant manifests as a bead of metal instead of a Shardblade? Brandon Sanderson You're not going to be able to burn that if it's something that's coming from a spren, because that's not going to be treated as a metal in your body. Like, those are God Metals, and that one is actually alive and awake and it's just not gonna work. There are ways, though, that you could make that work. So it's totally possible, but you're gonna need something that's not an alive spren that's manifest like that. You're gonna need some way to get access to some tanavastium or something like that that's not, like, some living being. Dragonsteel 2023 (Nov. 21, 2023) Now the sliver of non-Spren Honorblade. . . Spoiler NeedsToShutUp What would happen if Hoid tried to burn the shard that came off Ishar's Honorblade? Brandon Sanderson If you were able to get a hold of that piece and burn it, it would act like burning... You would be burning a very pure form of a God Metal, and those have some very interesting effects. RAFO. YouTube Spoiler Stream 3 (Dec. 16, 2021) Hope that helps 1
alder24 Posted February 26, 2025 Posted February 26, 2025 13 hours ago, CoderDrag0n8 said: What if you tried to burn a dead (Deadeye spren) Shardblade? Would that work? They are not truly dead. Maya shows it. However, I wonder if you were to somehow turn the bodies of spren killed by Ishar into their Shardblade form, would they be pure god metals that can be burned? 1
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