Mental health club!

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

54 minutes ago, Mag said:

asdkfjasldkfj why does my stupid brain have to be anxious over completely random stuff that isn't even bad 

*hugs*

[Through the Living Hope]

1 hour ago, Mag said:

asdkfjasldkfj why does my stupid brain have to be anxious over completely random stuff that isn't even bad 

I have a pretty rock you may habs

[Shatter He/Him]

34 minutes ago, Spark of Hope said:

I have a pretty rock you may habs

ooooooooooo

[Through the Living Hope]

Just now, The Shattered Cosmere said:

ooooooooooo

You can habs dis other pretty rock

[MirkerLurker she/her]

 

On 5/5/2025 at 11:34 AM, Mag said:

I really need like a fairy godmother or a sorcerer or a demi-god or something to observe me and go "whoa this girl failure is miserable" and then turn me into a tree like they used to back in the day y'know. I think I would make a really good tree.

... I'm trying to post a meme but my phone won't let me. I will edit this in the computer later, sorry.

WAIT IT'S AT THE END 

On 5/5/2025 at 8:10 PM, Hoid Slayer said:

I was thinking of art as simply content that is created to be visually pleasing or evoke a message. Although of course, that definition is really vague.

While AI art can be manipulated by a human hand, and is thus then a form of human expression, it is not of the same… category as hand drawn art.

Comparison is alright, and yes, even inevitable, but my point is that these differences should be kept in mind.

No problem

Let's draw a distinction between art and beauty. 

Art is something created with the intent to provoke emotion. That is why music is art, painting is art, writing is an art, etc. Also why not all art is beautiful. Sometimes the emotion it wants to provoke is unpleasant. 

Beauty is anything that inspires awe or joy in a person. It did not require intent.

So AI can create beauty, but it cannot create art. AI does not have intent; it has purpose - to fulfill the conditions and commands it is given - but a human with intent must give it those conditions and commands, must give it that purpose.

Controversial toss-in: Humans learn by studying others' work and mimicking it - generally without their permission, like when we read a book we like and start writing like it - and mashing it up to create our own "style". An author might cite their inspirations if asked, but don't generally include a list of writers whose work they studied in the front of every book they write. An artist might be said to be painting in the style of so-and-so, but it's their own work. They don't need to name the creator of the style unless they straight-up copy, rather than mimic the style. So why is it different when AI does it?
(I'm not saying I think there's no difference, I'm playing devil's advocate and poking to see what responses turn up.)

 

On 5/6/2025 at 11:34 AM, Mag said:

Oh, okay. I personally really dislike that definition, but I think understand where you're coming from. 

Yeah, I think the current injustices out way any benefits (in the art field specifically).

!! Anyway !!

How is everybody today? I'm trying to stay positive but I feel really burnt out with school today. A lot of my classes are just boring busy work stuff.

*Edit* Aaaaand I forgot to write in my response to this. Thank you brain.

How am I doing? Overstimulated. Also happy. It's...a weird back and forth.

It feels like my emotions are open. So I'm feeling more happy and joy, yay! But also hearing ALL the noises and feeling ALL the sensations and getting overstimulated much faster than usual. So...tradeoffs, I guess? I'm happy and sunny and crabby and shutting down. It's...weird.

On 5/6/2025 at 3:30 PM, Wierdo said:

aaa- I've  noticed that when I get stressed I make origami cranes-

The only origami item I know how to make are origami shuriken.

On 5/6/2025 at 3:18 PM, Hawks said:

I storming hate school. 

Ok so I got sick again!!!!!!!!! I woke up with a splitting headache and feeling like I was about to throw up. Then I woke up to a text from sprout saying that j wad probably gonna fail. And to sum up why (it's a long convo but I have a screenshot of it) apparently if you miss enough days of school then you get a principles notic or smthng and you can LOSE CREDITES!!! what when did that happen. I dont like missing school snd I feel ridden with guilt when I have to. And now I feel worse bc I might fail!!!! *arghh* so im going to suck it up and have my dad take me to school and fumble my way through the day. 

Sprout also said he wasn't gonna help me in English anymore but hes the only reason im passing and now im trying not to cry and throw up at the same time. 

So. In my senior year of high school, I missed 50 days. 

Yes. Fifty. Out of 180. Almost a third of the year. (And was late on a number of days in addition to that.)

It was during that year that I got my depression diagnosis. I had to talk to the school counselor and the administrative staff (principle, secretary, etc) and show them the diagnosis, and we came up with a set of expectations for me to meet: go to regular counseling, check in with secretary every day to show I came in, complete missing homework on a schedule we agreed to, and talk to school counselor if I miss more school. 

It's not great to miss school. But the threat of failing can be addressed by taking to the school about modified expectations.  ... I'll grant, each school is different, and you probably need a parent backing you up. But there are ways to address the anxieties your brain is throwing at you. 

Also, I'm glad you were able to talk to your friend and make up.

 

On 5/6/2025 at 11:29 PM, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

I have a kid who's close to both of those. Like he's the sweetest kid imaginable, but in class I have to keep yelling at him to STOP PUNCHING PEOPLE when he's not supposed to. I mean he doesn't do it hard but still he shouldn't be doing that. (It's also partly my fault, I have a tendency to punch my friends in class but we don't talk about that)

Wha...asdf

No! We DO talk about that!! That is exactly what we should be talking about! Especially in front of kids !! *Twitch twitch*

Ok. Play violence should only be done with people we know are ok with it - and we find out if they're ok with it by asking. First off, you're modeling it, so of course he's doing it. You should either: Talk to him about how to ask someone if they're ok with play punches (and start modeling doing that yourself), OR talk to him about how punching someone without permission is not ok, and tell him that he can call you out whenever he sees you doing it. Whatever you choose, make sure that in front of him, you are holding yourself to the same standard you're holding him to. 

(Yes, we don't actually ask every time we play punch people. But we do only do it with people we know are ok with it, and the way to show him that is with repetition.)

On 5/6/2025 at 11:38 PM, Hawks said:

I realized today im worrying all my friends bc im getting depressed again and amy form of joy lasts for like 3 seconds before it's gone again and apparently at lunch my friends were like worried about me and whatnot. I dont know why like I do but it doesnt seem like it should be affecting me this much and maybe it's cause im not in the best mental emotional place. I shouldn't be this stressed yet I am. I dont even know anymore.

and the stress is so bad im getting super sixk from it. And also my entire body is gettying tense so like ugh life

i need hugs. And emotional suport. And i wish i hsd my friend to hold me

Rather than feeling guilty for 'making' your friends worry about you, make a point of asking them for help and letting them in. Let them see that they're helping and feel involved. Speaking as a supportive friend, that is reassuring.

Also make sure to ask how they're doing or how their day's been in return. 

5 hours ago, The Shattered Cosmere said:

my parents want to do that too

I prefer spring and fall. Summer's too hot and it makes me feel like a blob of bleh.

In summer, the temp is 25-40 degrees Celsius. (77-104 degrees Fahrenheit for the Yanks)

rn its... lemme check...

10 degrees Celsius (50 degrees Fahrenheit)

which is when my mental health is better

...

last night I wrote a poem about my depression.

i don't have the poem with my but it's title is Scared of the Dark

4 hours ago, IcedOutPenguin said:

Poems?

I made a poem describing my mental (and general world outlook) state yesterday, too!

Are either of you you willing to share? ...I can offer an old poem I wrote a while back about depression in trade, if you'd like. 

 

Edited May 8, 2025 by MirkerLurker

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Ughhhhhhh

*groans*

Why am I such a storming piece of crem?

Why can't I do anything right?

All I've done all week is do nothing, but I still feel so tired

I'm just tired of everything

I could use some hugs right now

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Ughhhhhhh

*groans*

Why am I such a storming piece of crem?

Why can't I do anything right?

All I've done all week is do nothing, but I still feel so tired

I'm just tired of everything

I could use some hugs right now

*HUGS*

[MirkerLurker she/her]

1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Ughhhhhhh

*groans*

Why am I such a storming piece of crem?

Why can't I do anything right?

All I've done all week is do nothing, but I still feel so tired

I'm just tired of everything

I could use some hugs right now

*hug*

Doing nothing is tiring. It's draining.

As opposite as it sounds, getting moving (physically) - doing some exercising or playing - will usually increase your energy level. Even if it feels like the last thing in the world you want to be doing is pushing yourself to be active. 

I spent two days last week unmoving. ...as in, actually not moving. Lying on the couch and just...not. For no reason, either. I wasn't physically sick. I wasn't feeling like crem mentally. I could have gotten up. I just...didn't. Something didn't connect. All the thoughts of doing things never made it out of my head. I kind of dissociated; dozed in and out a bit. Stared at the ceiling thinking of doing something. Thinking I really should do something. And boy, did that guilt and self-loathing start swirling around in my head. And I only got more tired. It got harder to think and to move, the more I did nothing.

Anyway, so this week I did my workouts like I'm supposed to, and went outside and jogged for a bit, and this week has gotten better, and I have more energy, and actually feel like I'm up to doing things. Enjoying things, even. 

I dunno if that's what you meant by "do nothing". You might have meant "accomplished nothing", in which case I would point out don't dismiss the things you did work on, even if they didn't accomplish anything. 

Either way, more hugs incoming.

*HUG*

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

2 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Ughhhhhhh

*groans*

Why am I such a storming piece of crem?

Why can't I do anything right?

All I've done all week is do nothing, but I still feel so tired

I'm just tired of everything

I could use some hugs right now

*squeezes*

[Keke They/he]

Ok guys i got a great metaphor for yalsl

Humans are like glass. We are fragile and can be broken easily. We are really strong and helpful in someways but hirtful in others. And like glass we all have different features. The thing is. When you break glass you think it's done for. Same as when someone finds a broken human. They discsrd it. But if you take time to take that broken glass you can put it together to make something even cooler and prettier then before with the shards. And eventually that broken discarded glass becomes the best glass sculpture in the world!!!!!!

 

YOUR AWESOME DONT FORGET THAT EVER!!!

5 hours ago, MirkerLurker said:

 

... I'm trying to post a meme but my phone won't let me. I will edit this in the computer later, sorry.

WAIT IT'S AT THE END 

Let's draw a distinction between art and beauty. 

Art is something created with the intent to provoke emotion. That is why music is art, painting is art, writing is an art, etc. Also why not all art is beautiful. Sometimes the emotion it wants to provoke is unpleasant. 

Beauty is anything that inspires awe or joy in a person. It did not require intent.

So AI can create beauty, but it cannot create art. AI does not have intent; it has purpose - to fulfill the conditions and commands it is given - but a human with intent must give it those conditions and commands, must give it that purpose.

Controversial toss-in: Humans learn by studying others' work and mimicking it - generally without their permission, like when we read a book we like and start writing like it - and mashing it up to create our own "style". An author might cite their inspirations if asked, but don't generally include a list of writers whose work they studied in the front of every book they write. An artist might be said to be painting in the style of so-and-so, but it's their own work. They don't need to name the creator of the style unless they straight-up copy, rather than mimic the style. So why is it different when AI does it?
(I'm not saying I think there's no difference, I'm playing devil's advocate and poking to see what responses turn up.)

 

*Edit* Aaaaand I forgot to write in my response to this. Thank you brain.

How am I doing? Overstimulated. Also happy. It's...a weird back and forth.

It feels like my emotions are open. So I'm feeling more happy and joy, yay! But also hearing ALL the noises and feeling ALL the sensations and getting overstimulated much faster than usual. So...tradeoffs, I guess? I'm happy and sunny and crabby and shutting down. It's...weird.

The only origami item I know how to make are origami shuriken.

So. In my senior year of high school, I missed 50 days. 

Yes. Fifty. Out of 180. Almost a third of the year. (And was late on a number of days in addition to that.)

It was during that year that I got my depression diagnosis. I had to talk to the school counselor and the administrative staff (principle, secretary, etc) and show them the diagnosis, and we came up with a set of expectations for me to meet: go to regular counseling, check in with secretary every day to show I came in, complete missing homework on a schedule we agreed to, and talk to school counselor if I miss more school. 

It's not great to miss school. But the threat of failing can be addressed by taking to the school about modified expectations.  ... I'll grant, each school is different, and you probably need a parent backing you up. But there are ways to address the anxieties your brain is throwing at you. 

Also, I'm glad you were able to talk to your friend and make up.

 

Wha...asdf

No! We DO talk about that!! That is exactly what we should be talking about! Especially in front of kids !! *Twitch twitch*

Ok. Play violence should only be done with people we know are ok with it - and we find out if they're ok with it by asking. First off, you're modeling it, so of course he's doing it. You should either: Talk to him about how to ask someone if they're ok with play punches (and start modeling doing that yourself), OR talk to him about how punching someone without permission is not ok, and tell him that he can call you out whenever he sees you doing it. Whatever you choose, make sure that in front of him, you are holding yourself to the same standard you're holding him to. 

(Yes, we don't actually ask every time we play punch people. But we do only do it with people we know are ok with it, and the way to show him that is with repetition.)

Rather than feeling guilty for 'making' your friends worry about you, make a point of asking them for help and letting them in. Let them see that they're helping and feel involved. Speaking as a supportive friend, that is reassuring.

Also make sure to ask how they're doing or how their day's been in return. 

Are either of you you willing to share? ...I can offer an old poem I wrote a while back about depression in trade, if you'd like. 

 

*hugs*

3 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Ughhhhhhh

*groans*

Why am I such a storming piece of crem?

Why can't I do anything right?

All I've done all week is do nothing, but I still feel so tired

I'm just tired of everything

I could use some hugs right now

Noooo hs ur awesome!!! Sometimes we cant do anything and it's not ur fault ok? *hugs hugs hugs*

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

2 minutes ago, Hawks said:

Ok guys i got a great metaphor for yalsl

Humans are like glass. We are fragile and can be broken easily. We are really strong and helpful in someways but hirtful in others. And like glass we all have different features. The thing is. When you break glass you think it's done for. Same as when someone finds a broken human. They discsrd it. But if you take time to take that broken glass you can put it together to make something even cooler and prettier then before with the shards. And eventually that broken discarded glass becomes the best glass sculpture in the world!!!!!!

 

YOUR AWESOME DONT FORGET THAT EVER!!!

*hugs*

Noooo hs ur awesome!!! Sometimes we cant do anything and it's not ur fault ok? *hugs hugs hugs*

. . .

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Quote

Nah that's a great metaphor though good job

 

[Keke They/he]

Just now, Through The Living Glass said:

. . .

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

YOUR BEUTIFUL 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, Hawks said:

YOUR BEUTIFUL 

*you're beautiful

*cough* sorry

*hugs*

thanks

. . . you too? uhhhhhh-

you're very handsome? :D:D?

[Keke They/he]

Just now, Through The Living Glass said:

*you're beautiful

*cough* sorry

*hugs*

thanks

. . . you too? uhhhhhh-

you're very handsome? :D:D?

Shhh im tired and cant spell for crap

*hugs*

xD thanks glads

q

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Spoiler

Men are beutiful to 

 

 

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

3 minutes ago, Hawks said:

Shhh im tired and cant spell for crap

*hugs*

xD thanks glads

q

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Men are beutiful to 

 

 

nyuk nyuk nyuk :3

Glads? Who's Glads?

hehe

*hugs*

Spoiler

alr, fair, fair

 

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

50 minutes ago, Hawks said:

Shhh im tired and cant spell for crap

*hugs*

xD thanks glads

q

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Men are beutiful to 

 

 

Men are also very pretty

I'm tired and my brain is broken. Maybe I should go sleep. Night y'all

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

21 minutes ago, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

Men are also very pretty

I'm tired and my brain is broken. Maybe I should go sleep. Night y'all

. . . sleep? what's that?

[𝖂𝖍𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖊]

6 hours ago, Through The Living Glass said:

. . . sleep? what's that?

*shoots with tranquilizer*

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

4 hours ago, 𝖂𝖍𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖊 said:

*shoots with tranquilizer*

HEyy. . .

*passes out*

*falls off cliff*

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

3 minutes ago, Through The Living Glass said:

HEyy. . .

*passes out*

*falls off cliff*

*places giant foam pit at bottom*

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*places giant foam pit at bottom*

*misses*

*splats*

*dies*

[Through the Living Hope]

1 minute ago, Through The Living Glass said:

*misses*

*splats*

*dies*

*resurrects*

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, Spark of Hope said:

*resurrects*

meh

no

[Kansas Stormcursed he/him]

Just now, Through The Living Glass said:

meh

no

*takes to secret lab and forcibly resurrects*

*then hugs*

[Through The Living Glass She/They]

Just now, Kaladin Stormcursed said:

*takes to secret lab and forcibly resurrects*

*then hugs*

HEY

aw

. . .

*slowly hugs back*