Could El invade the Tower?

[The Stick]

This is a really crazy theory, but I think it could actually happen.

We know the Sibling has defenses to keep out Fused. We also know that in reference to this, it said that it's beats drive Fused mad. This seems supported by Moash's escape from the Tower, where the Song of the Tower drove him out. However, Raboniel at that point could not hear the rhythms. Indeed, she was not driven out, not seemed to be hurt by the Song of the Tower. Granted, her condition is somewhat unique, because she was being burned away by the anti-Voidlight, but we know she could hear no rhythms.

This brings me to my point. El is known to be unable to hear rhythms. I think he was not even perturbed while holding anti-voidlight, which should have been emitting the rhythm of anti-voidlight. I would say that since he cannot hear the Song of the Tower, he could enter the Tower for some purpose, although what this would be is mysterious. 

I merely thought this was an interesting thought experiment.

[bmcclure7]

1 hour ago, The Stick said:

This is a really crazy theory, but I think it could actually happen.

We know the Sibling has defenses to keep out Fused. We also know that in reference to this, it said that it's beats drive Fused mad. This seems supported by Moash's escape from the Tower, where the Song of the Tower drove him out. However, Raboniel at that point could not hear the rhythms. Indeed, she was not driven out, not seemed to be hurt by the Song of the Tower. Granted, her condition is somewhat unique, because she was being burned away by the anti-Voidlight, but we know she could hear no rhythms.

This brings me to my point. El is known to be unable to hear rhythms. I think he was not even perturbed while holding anti-voidlight, which should have been emitting the rhythm of anti-voidlight. I would say that since he cannot hear the Song of the Tower, he could enter the Tower for some purpose, although what this would be is mysterious. 

I merely thought this was an interesting thought experiment.

Didn’t think of that that’s an interesting possibility

[LewsTherinTelescope]

Ooooh. I've seen a lot of theories around Skybreakers or Dustbringers entering, but I haven't seen this connection before. He used to be "He Who Quiets", the title given by Leshwi to Moash for assassination...

[king of nowhere]

He may not be hurt directly, but he still will lose his powers, and he will be alone. Hard to achieve anything, even if the tower is stripped of defenders. 

The sibling could still lock him behind closed doors anyway

[The Stick]

9 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

He may not be hurt directly, but he still will lose his powers, and he will be alone. Hard to achieve anything, even if the tower is stripped of defenders. 

The sibling could still lock him behind closed doors anyway

I am afraid I must respectfully disagree.

We know that the Tower not its Song had any effects on Void light in and of itself. This can be clearly seen in the textual evidence of the Sibling being weak, with void light corrupting the system like crem in a cistern. Navani had to specifically sing the rhythm of anti-Voidlight to get rid of it. Now, one issue would be how a Fused would not be looked at strangely, after all he isn't human. I do think though that the Sibling's protections would arrest Mavaset-im abilities. 

I don't even like the third Tower attack theory, but I think this is a valid way it could be done.

[coolsnow7]

I’m more interested in whether El’s metallic implants are aluminum, such that he’d be immune to the Tower’s influence that way. Alternatively they’re hemallurgic in some way.

I’m also less interested in him attacking the tower and more in him performing some assassination or sabotage mission. Suppose he disabled the Oathgates? Or alternatively, suppose he opens them from one of the 3 battlegrounds? Now that would be a disaster - if the Azish conquering force, instead of hanging out in Azimir, immediately uses the Oathgate to invade Urithiru and wreak havoc.

Edited October 16, 2024 by coolsnow7

[king of nowhere]

On 10/16/2024 at 8:44 PM, The Stick said:

I am afraid I must respectfully disagree.

We know that the Tower not its Song had any effects on Void light in and of itself. This can be clearly seen in the textual evidence of the Sibling being weak, with void light corrupting the system like crem in a cistern. Navani had to specifically sing the rhythm of anti-Voidlight to get rid of it. Now, one issue would be how a Fused would not be looked at strangely, after all he isn't human. I do think though that the Sibling's protections would arrest Mavaset-im abilities. 

I don't even like the third Tower attack theory, but I think this is a valid way it could be done.

I don't see how any of that disagrees with my statement. You concede that fused powers would be negated by the tower regardless of rythms. Plus, simply locking doors would be well within the sibling capacity

[The Stick]

7 hours ago, king of nowhere said:

I don't see how any of that disagrees with my statement. You concede that fused powers would be negated by the tower regardless of rythms. Plus, simply locking doors would be well within the sibling capacity

No, I am saying even the dormant tower stripped Voidlight illusions. However, it has no effect on the Voidlight itself. We know El has special voidlight talents, some of which may work. Conventional Fused powers may be disabled, but if El had no Rhythms, maybe not, we just don't know. The issue is that Raboniel did not use her powers post Sibling awakening.