Nightstar The Bright Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 So yeah, like the title says, I don’t really understand the command structure of the Alethi military. Can someone answer the questions below? subsquad 6–8 - sergeant squad ~25 - squadleader platoon ~50 - captain/captainlord company ~100 - companylord battalion ~1000 - battalionlord division ~2000 - general army - highprince Then there are also the following ranks: highmarshal, what is his job? What does a highmarshal command and where does he fit in the chain of command? (Kaladin and Perethom (during the rift) were two highmarshals) Highofficer, what is his job, what does he command and where does he fit into the chain of command? (Teleb served as highofficer) company second, am I right to assume it’s just the second in command of a companylord? Then there are also certain officers who have specific duties, an example of this is the ‘commander of the rearguard’. Where exactly do they fit in the chain of command? There are also officers who command certain parts of the army, such as the ‘infantrylord’ or ‘Archerlord’. Where do these fit in the chain of command? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Highmarshal has always been used for a leader in City Defense, including when Azure just sort of fell into the role and folks started calling them that. So I think it's a rank for a military-adjacent City Defense (and/or police) force. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstar The Bright Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 That makes sense, but why are Perethom and Kaladin highmarshals? They don’t command any policing forces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stick Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Kaladin got that one plot of land and the title before they went to Urithiru, so I am thinking any soldier who is responsible for a high amount of land is a highmarshall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 10 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: highmarshal, what is his job? What does a highmarshal command and where does he fit in the chain of command? (Kaladin and Perethom (during the rift) were two highmarshals) Amaram was also a highmarshal, specifically absendiar highmarshal. Form Coppermind: Quote After the swearing of the Vengeance Pact, Amaram remained behind in Alethkar as absendiar highmarshal in command of Highprince Torol Sadeas's soldiers.[4] He was charged with the defense of northern Alethkar,[6] I would position them in between general and Highprice, with the difference being that Highmarshal commands their own army in the name of their Highprince and has a bigger autonomy and authority than a general. Highmarshal might not even be a military rank, but a distinction, just like the French marshal. 10 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: Highofficer, what is his job, what does he command and where does he fit into the chain of command? (Teleb served as highofficer) I couldn't find any mention of the word highofficer in any book. There is no such rank, in Coppermind it probably is meant to say that he has a high position, but we don't know what rank. 10 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: company second, am I right to assume it’s just the second in command of a companylord? That's my guess too. 10 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: Then there are also certain officers who have specific duties, an example of this is the ‘commander of the rearguard’. Where exactly do they fit in the chain of command? Depending on the size of the rearguard. If 100 men then companylord, if 1000 then companylord etc. That's a duty, not a rank. 10 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: There are also officers who command certain parts of the army, such as the ‘infantrylord’ or ‘Archerlord’. Where do these fit in the chain of command? The only mention of the infantrylord was Perethom in WoK ch 26: Quote Perethom, his infantrylord, saluted as Dalinar strode up. “Second and Third Battalions are on duty today, Brightlord. Forming ranks to march.” “First Bridge Squad is gathered, Brightlord,” Havarah—the bridgelord—said, striding up. There is also a bridgelord here. I'm guessing that's another duty thing, not a military rank. By this quote alone I'm guessing Perethom is responsible for organizing and scheduling the entire infantry divisions of Dalinar's army, in Coppermind it's said that during the burning of Rathalas he was a highmarshal - so I would guess that's his rank, if highmarshal is a military rank. He has a special task of commanding all of Dalinar's infantrymen. But not in the battle type commanding, but the day-to-day type commanding, giving them duties, tasks, guard hours etc. The same goes for the title of a brigdelord, who's responsible for all bridge crews, or the archerlord who's responsible for archers alone (if there is one, as there is no mention of that word in all 4 books). That's supported by the Coppermind, Alethkar#Militarism: Quote Lighteyed officers that have the command of a branch of the army are usually referred by their duties (e.g. cavalrylord, infantrylord).[124] Edited April 30 by alder24 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstar The Bright Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 13 hours ago, alder24 said: I would position them in between general and Highprice, with the difference being that Highmarshal commands their own army in the name of their Highprince and has a bigger autonomy and authority than a general. Highmarshal might not even be a military rank, but a distinction, just like the French marshal. That makes sense. 13 hours ago, alder24 said: Depending on the size of the rearguard. If 100 men then companylord, if 1000 then companylord etc. That's a duty, not a rank. I hadn’t actually thought about it like that, but it makes sense that it is a duty instead of a rank. 13 hours ago, alder24 said: There is also a bridgelord here. I'm guessing that's another duty thing, not a military rank. By this quote alone I'm guessing Perethom is responsible for organizing and scheduling the entire infantry divisions of Dalinar's army, in Coppermind it's said that during the burning of Rathalas he was a highmarshal - so I would guess that's his rank, if highmarshal is a military rank. He has a special task of commanding all of Dalinar's infantrymen. But not in the battle type commanding, but the day-to-day type commanding, giving them duties, tasks, guard hours etc. The same goes for the title of a brigdelord, who's responsible for all bridge crews, or the archerlord who's responsible for archers alone (if there is one, as there is no mention of that word in all 4 books). That's supported by the Coppermind, Alethkar#Militarism: Yeah that makes more sense, but Perethom did fight (he died at the tower). So he probably did command, but just not all the infantry. Note that there is an Archerlord mentioned, his name is Ashelem. (Sa1 ch26) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: Yeah that makes more sense, but Perethom did fight (he died at the tower). So he probably did command, but just not all the infantry. Yes, he fought, we don't know if he commanded some regiments directly, it's possible but it would function in the way appropriate to his rank - highmarshal. 2 hours ago, Nightstar The Bright said: Note that there is an Archerlord mentioned, his name is Ashelem. (Sa1 ch26) The Ashelem is mentioned, but the title is not. Note the quote said "the archer company" - one company, so his rank would most likely be a companylord. Quote “I have word from Ashelem that the archery company is ready.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 On 4/30/2024 at 10:31 PM, alder24 said: I would position them in between general and Highprice, with the difference being that Highmarshal commands their own army in the name of their Highprince and has a bigger autonomy and authority than a general. Highmarshal might not even be a military rank, but a distinction, just like the French marshal. That suggests that Highmarshal is a political role, like viceroy, who not just commands armed forces but is also a government official. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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