Question 3

[Edgedancer]

They were both a little odd even pre-calamity, he noticed changes in her behaviour but didn't connect it to her being an Epic, I imagine they would have tried research based solely on genetics too but having a living Epic probably would have sped things along considerably was my reasoning, personally I find it rather difficult to understand how it would be possible to research Epic powers based solely on mDNA, you'd have to sequence the DNA, replicate it, create functioning mitochondria out of it and then potentially need to clone an entire human, I mean I suppose you could use a heck of a lot of computer power to simulate some of it but it'd take ages.

So it was mostly just that they didn't want their research to be slowed down, however obviously if they had taken your advice they wouldn't have nearly been blown to pieces (But then the RP would be minus a truly epic beard, so isn't that reason enough?)

Who knows what exactly the mutations does to them and DNA is ultimately a method to transfer information, so who knows. Having what might be a blueprint seems like it might be more effective to me than just watching something that´s either to dangerous to approach or just plain impossible to comprehend using physics. For example the Epic used as a basis for the Gaus gun, Rick o´Shea. How are you going to research him, if that means you have to give him highly unstable exposives? Alas, we´ll probably never know.

 

Then again my hopes for Epic research are kind of low, given that I doubt they´ll manage to completely break physics and are going to need obscene amounts of energy.

 

On other new, I´m wondering what I should write next. Lucentia would be very shorth, Voidgaze´s return to Thoughttown would be a bit premature, if we stick with the plan of her arriving when the attack is under way, and I´m still working out the details for Nighthound´s evening plans.

Talking about NH´s evening plans, Twi did you want a chance for the Unicyclist to meet Ray?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

Who knows what exactly the mutations does to them and DNA is ultimately a method to transfer information, so who knows. Having what might be a blueprint seems like it might be more effective to me than just watching something that´s either to dangerous to approach or just plain impossible to comprehend using physics. For example the Epic used as a basis for the Gaus gun, Rick o´Shea. How are you going to research him, if that means you have to give him highly unstable exposives? Alas, we´ll probably never know.

 

Then again my hopes for Epic research are kind of low, given that I doubt they´ll manage to completely break physics and are going to need obscene amounts of energy.

 

On other new, I´m wondering what I should write next. Lucentia would be very shorth, Voidgaze´s return to Thoughttown would be a bit premature, if we stick with the plan of her arriving when the attack is under way, and I´m still working out the details for Nighthound´s evening plans.

Talking about NH´s evening plans, Twi did you want a chance for the Unicyclist to meet Ray?

 

I'm fine with him meeting her or not meeting her. If he does, it could be a chance for him to angst a bit over the secret crush he's had on her for a while; if not, he'll sit and think about how much he wants to punch Nighthound directly in the face. (Not that it's a unique ambition, of course.) So however you wanted to do it, that's fine. 

[Kobold King]

This is the current state of the timeline:

 

2013 A.D.: Calamity appears in the night sky. 2013 was Steelheart's publication date, and thus was selected as the year Calamity first appeared.

 

2014: Roughly a year later, the first Epics begin to manifest powers. Most early Epics wear masks or otherwise attempt to conceal their identities.

 

2014: The recently married Jeff and Marigold Carlisle join a military research facility dedicated to studying Epics.

 

2014: Milton Towren discovers his illusionist abilities.

 

2014: Thomas Cardinal discovers his necromantic abilities.

 

2014: Rita Blue discovers her Epic powers.

 

2014: Dave Elwes comes to his powers

 

August 2015: Alexandra Hawkins discovers her space-warping abilities.

 

2015: Michael Jäger discovered his Epic powers, bolting from his home town shortly afterwards and taking his sister with him.

 

September 24th, 2015: Annexation Day. Steelheart seizes control of Chicago, Illinois with the Great Transference. Nightwielder plunges the city into perpetual gloom. Date chosen as the novel's publication date. If anyone knows the actual date in canon, don't hesitate to let me know.

 

2015: U.S. government passes the Capitulation Act, declaring all Epics exempt from the law. By this point other Epic despots are believed to have seized power.

 

2015: Three months after Michael's Epic awakening, the younger Jäger sibling awakens to her powers.

 

2015: The Epics SparkCloud and Hardwire wage war in Portland, Oregon, destroying the city's central power grid.

 

2015-2016: Altermind seizes a portion of Portland, founding the urban center of Thoughttown.

 

2015: Frank Ponte gains electric and flying powers and begins working with Altermind. 

 

2015: Jonah Trumble leaves Newcago, taking the name Chicago Joe.

 

2016: With no evidence of Reckoner existence prior to the Capitulation Act, this is possibly the founding year of the Reckoners.

 

February 2016: Steve Lawrence discovers his past-seeing abilities.

 

Spring 2016: Pixie's Lantern is founded.

 

2016: The Capitulation act begins affecting the effective running of the Carlisle's lab. The researchers and military personell shift their base of operations to somewhere off the books to prevent reprisals.

 

2016: Cipher gains powers.

 

2016: Black Jaguar and Hawkwing gain powers.

 

Feburary 3rd 2017: Bloody Mary discovers her blood-controlling powers.

 

2017: The Trattner family comes to Portland. By this point CorpseMaker's gang has become a powerful force within the city.

 

2017: Scorch gains powers and works for Altermind.

 

2017: Metalmech is recruited by the Destructors(?)

 

2017: BusDriver begins treking around the country in his buses in search of a more permanent home.

 

2018: The Epic Möbius founds the city of Calamityville, situated in a pocket universe stolen from north California.

 

2019: Shortly after his eighteenth birthday, Nathan Sperry is contacted by casino recruiters; hired after first interview. 

 

Christmas 2020: Doctor Funtimes discovers her powers.

 

2020: War Smasher joins the Destructors. 

 

2020: Capture of the Energy Epic who will later destroy the Carlisle's laboratory.

 

2021: Emma Runes discovers her friction abilities.

 

2021: Marigold Carlisle manifests her powers.

 

Winter 2021: Koschei the Deathless begins his short-lived conquest of The Dalles, Oregon.

 

Early 2022: Reader assists Remington Springfield by betraying Koschei's weakness to him. 

 

2022: Sightline discovers his teleportation powers.

 

2022: BusDriver finds the Dalles, and begins to reside there.

 

2022: Baxter arrived in the Dalles.

 

July 2022: Energy Epic destroys the Carlisle's research facility, Purple Phoenix manifests his powers and dies for the first time, resulting in the formation of the Protector personality.

 

Autumn 2022: The Jägers attack on Astoria. Lucentia decided she had enough of travelling hrough the country and settled there, turning a good chunk of the city around the coast into her private "diamond gardens." Nighthound made his leave shortly afterwards, in the incident that also cost Lucentia her right arm.

 

Winter 2022: The Metal was released from his imprisonment and Deathgale joined Astoria.

 

March 2022: Remington Springfield moves to Portland. 

 

2022: Cipher goes to the Dalles.

 

Early 2023: Mommy leaves Astoria and heads to Portland, picking up children along her way.

 

May 2023: Impact and MV manifest their abilities.

 

September 2023: A steady influx of High Epics floods Portland. Turf wars begin in earnest. What Happened in Portland begins. Timeport comes to his powers and betrays the Reckoners.

 

2024: Latest possible point of Oregon's total destruction.

 

2025: Death of Steelheart at the hands of David Charleston.

 

I'm still prepared to add new dates.

 

On another note, we're almost at Page 100 again.

[Edgedancer]

I'm fine with him meeting her or not meeting her. If he does, it could be a chance for him to angst a bit over the secret crush he's had on her for a while; if not, he'll sit and think about how much he wants to punch Nighthound directly in the face. (Not that it's a unique ambition, of course.) So however you wanted to do it, that's fine. 

The one ambition uniting all of humankind.

Nighthound would would take Ray with him then... and probably set up something especially disturbing to make a point on their first none work "date." Dealing with Corpsemaker´s new coffe shop would make a good excurse but I doubt it is known by now.

 

 

 

This is the current state of the timeline:

 

2013 A.D.: Calamity appears in the night sky. 2013 was Steelheart's publication date, and thus was selected as the year Calamity first appeared.

 

2014: Roughly a year later, the first Epics begin to manifest powers. Most early Epics wear masks or otherwise attempt to conceal their identities.

 

2014: The recently married Jeff and Marigold Carlisle join a military research facility dedicated to studying Epics.

 

2014: Milton Towren discovers his illusionist abilities.

 

2014: Thomas Cardinal discovers his necromantic abilities.

 

2014: Rita Blue discovers her Epic powers.

 

2014: Dave Elwes comes to his powers

 

August 2015: Alexandra Hawkins discovers her space-warping abilities.

 

2015: Michael Jäger discovered his Epic powers, bolting from his home town shortly afterwards and taking his sister with him.

 

September 24th, 2015: Annexation Day. Steelheart seizes control of Chicago, Illinois with the Great Transference. Nightwielder plunges the city into perpetual gloom. Date chosen as the novel's publication date. If anyone knows the actual date in canon, don't hesitate to let me know.

 

2015: U.S. government passes the Capitulation Act, declaring all Epics exempt from the law. By this point other Epic despots are believed to have seized power.

 

2015: Three months after Michael's Epic awakening, the younger Jäger sibling awakens to her powers.

 

2015: The Epics SparkCloud and Hardwire wage war in Portland, Oregon, destroying the city's central power grid.

 

2015-2016: Altermind seizes a portion of Portland, founding the urban center of Thoughttown.

 

2015: Frank Ponte gains electric and flying powers and begins working with Altermind. 

 

2015: Jonah Trumble leaves Newcago, taking the name Chicago Joe.

 

2016: With no evidence of Reckoner existence prior to the Capitulation Act, this is possibly the founding year of the Reckoners.

 

February 2016: Steve Lawrence discovers his past-seeing abilities.

 

Spring 2016: Pixie's Lantern is founded.

 

2016: The Capitulation act begins affecting the effective running of the Carlisle's lab. The researchers and military personell shift their base of operations to somewhere off the books to prevent reprisals.

 

2016: Cipher gains powers.

 

2016: Black Jaguar and Hawkwing gain powers.

 

Feburary 3rd 2017: Bloody Mary discovers her blood-controlling powers.

 

2017: The Trattner family comes to Portland. By this point CorpseMaker's gang has become a powerful force within the city.

 

2017: Scorch gains powers and works for Altermind.

 

2017: Metalmech is recruited by the Destructors(?)

 

2017: BusDriver begins treking around the country in his buses in search of a more permanent home.

 

2018: The Epic Möbius founds the city of Calamityville, situated in a pocket universe stolen from north California.

 

2019: Shortly after his eighteenth birthday, Nathan Sperry is contacted by casino recruiters; hired after first interview. 

 

Christmas 2020: Doctor Funtimes discovers her powers.

 

2020: War Smasher joins the Destructors. 

 

2020: Capture of the Energy Epic who will later destroy the Carlisle's laboratory.

 

2021: Emma Runes discovers her friction abilities.

 

2021: Marigold Carlisle manifests her powers.

 

Winter 2021: Koschei the Deathless begins his short-lived conquest of The Dalles, Oregon.

 

Early 2022: Reader assists Remington Springfield by betraying Koschei's weakness to him. 

 

2022: Sightline discovers his teleportation powers.

 

2022: BusDriver finds the Dalles, and begins to reside there.

 

2022: Baxter arrived in the Dalles.

 

July 2022: Energy Epic destroys the Carlisle's research facility, Purple Phoenix manifests his powers and dies for the first time, resulting in the formation of the Protector personality.

 

Autumn 2022: The Jägers attack on Astoria. Lucentia decided she had enough of travelling hrough the country and settled there, turning a good chunk of the city around the coast into her private "diamond gardens." Nighthound made his leave shortly afterwards, in the incident that also cost Lucentia her right arm.

 

Winter 2022: The Metal was released from his imprisonment and Deathgale joined Astoria.

 

March 2022: Remington Springfield moves to Portland. 

 

2022: Cipher goes to the Dalles.

 

Early 2023: Mommy leaves Astoria and heads to Portland, picking up children along her way.

 

May 2023: Impact and MV manifest their abilities.

 

September 2023: A steady influx of High Epics floods Portland. Turf wars begin in earnest. What Happened in Portland begins. Timeport comes to his powers and betrays the Reckoners.

 

2024: Latest possible point of Oregon's total destruction.

 

2025: Death of Steelheart at the hands of David Charleston.

 

I'm still prepared to add new dates.

 

On another note, we're almost at Page 100 again.

 

This thing got massive!

 

My estimation of a month was pretty spot on as it seems.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

The one ambition uniting all of humankind.

Nighthound would would take Ray with him then... and probably set up something especially disturbing to make a point on their first none work "date." Dealing with Corpsemaker´s new coffe shop would make a good excurse but I doubt it is known by now.

This thing got massive!

My estimation of a month was pretty spot on as it seems.

Wait a minute. If we united humanity to punch Nighthound in the face, would we have world peace? Or would wars break out over who got to punch him first?

Yep. Any spot-on predictions for the next one?

[Edgedancer]

Wait a minute. If we united humanity to punch Nighthound in the face, would we have world peace? Or would wars break out over who got to punch him first?

Yep. Any spot-on predictions for the next one?

It´s the only chance we have at world peace, so let´s not waste it.

 

Around the same probably.

 

I wonder which song would be better to inspire Nighthound´s next slaughter Heat-Haze Days or Konoha's State of the World.

[Kobold King]

Yep. Any spot-on predictions for the next one?

 

There will be jokes. There will be ponies. There will be re-written songs. There will be awesomeness.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

There will be jokes. There will be ponies. There will be re-written songs. There will be awesomeness.

 

And shipping. There will be much shipping. And theories. 

 

For instance: I postulate that the Financier would like Mobius. Why? She can multiply people by zero, causing them to disappear—a feat the Financier has never mastered. (If he could multiply Lucentia by zero, he would. Oh, he would.) 

[Edgedancer]

And shipping. There will be much shipping. And theories. 

 

For instance: I postulate that the Financier would like Mobius. Why? She can multiply people by zero, causing them to disappear—a feat the Financier has never mastered. (If he could multiply Lucentia by zero, he would. Oh, he would.) 

There also ought to be nightmares and fan-fanfiction.

 

Good thing then that like most important people in Astoria he got a hidden shut-down mechanisem installed. (I forgot to mention this before, didn´t I feel free to object or ask.)

Edited November 5, 2014 by Edgedancer

[Seonid]

There will be stalkings and assassinations, and imperial ambitions. And more fantasies about whack-a-mole.

 

Maybe this time with Lightwards.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

There also ought to be nightmares and fan-fanfiction.

Good thing then that like most important people in Astoria he got a hidden shut-down mechanisem installed. (I forgot to mention this before, didn´t I feel free to object or ask.)

Knowing his weakness wasn't enough for her? O.o

[Edgedancer]

There will be stalkings and assassinations, and imperial ambitions. And more fantasies about whack-a-mole.

 

Maybe this time with Lightwards.

Nighthound would be a decent subject for the game where you stuff him into a barrel and stick swords in it, not using fake ones of course.

 

Knowing his weakness wasn't enough for her? O.o

The more failsafes she has the better for her, she´s really not in the mood for the need to defend her claim on her territory.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

Nighthound would be a decent subject for the game where you stuff him into a barrel and stick swords in it, not using fake ones of course.

The more failsafes she has the better for her, she´s really not in the mood for the need to defend her claim on her territory.

Is that game available online?

Makes sense, knowing Lucentia. I suppose Finnigan should be somewhat flattered she thinks him powerful enough to need a failsafe. Still--yikes. And we say Lightwards is paranoid.

[Kobold King]

Is that game available online?

Makes sense, knowing Lucentia. I suppose Finnigan should be somewhat flattered she thinks him powerful enough to need a failsafe. Still--yikes. And we say Lightwards is paranoid.

 

I'd spend all day playing it if it was.

 

* starts humming "Evil Love" *

[Edgedancer]

Is that game available online?

Makes sense, knowing Lucentia. I suppose Finnigan should be somewhat flattered she thinks him powerful enough to need a failsafe. Still--yikes. And we say Lightwards is paranoid.

It´s available in our imagination.

 

The failsafe doesn´t need a lot of work to set up, so there´s no reason not to install it. How much she needs it with Finnigan kinda depends on how insane he is at the moment. (A hint for those of you trying to figure it out: it depends on an Epic´s powers but not on Lucentia´s.)

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

It´s available in our imagination.

The failsafe doesn´t need a lot of work to set up, so there´s no reason not to install it. How much she needs it with Finnigan kinda depends on how insane he is at the moment. (A hint for those of you trying to figure it out: it depends on an Epic´s powers but not on Lucentia´s.)

I still want the Flash version.

Most of the time, he's just very neurotic, muttering about evil numbers and screaming obscenities whenever a budget report is left on his desk. He does have a dream of one day multiplying Lucentia by zero, but he doesn't voice it.

Let me guess: Bloody Mary?

[Edgedancer]

I still want the Flash version.

Most of the time, he's just very neurotic, muttering about evil numbers and screaming obscenities whenever a budget report is left on his desk. He does have a dream of one day multiplying Lucentia by zero, but he doesn't voice it.

Let me guess: Bloody Mary?

Anyone here with programming skills?

 

Yup, that woman has enough nightmare fuel for the entire city.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

Lightwards gets 4 upvotes but Remington gets 2. Definitely an Epic conspiracy.

[Kobold King]

Lightwards gets 4 upvotes but Remington gets 2. Definitely an Epic conspiracy.

 

My Warriors have accounts too.

 

I mean, yeah. Must be some kind of conspiracy.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

My Warriors have accounts too.

I mean, yeah. Must be some kind of conspiracy.

Oh, you mean the Warriors Nathan borrowed? They're starting to think being commanded to upvote something is unethical.

Weird, huh?

[Mailliw73]

You want them to destroy an Epic rehab center? Where some Epics are rehabilitated with puppies and kittens? YOU MONSTER!

(Kidding on the puppies thing. Maybe. )

 

I didn't say I want them to, it's just something they might do if they were bored: go pick on the easy town.

 

Cipher sounds neat.

War Smasher kinda sounds like a mix of Fade and Guardian. Guardian makes forcefields, Fade becomes insubstantial and can make it real inside of people. He also is an expert in hand to hand combat...

If this were Hollywood I would be suing for royalties.

But thankfully it's not, so all I ask is that you do such an awesome character justice with awesome writing.

 

 

Isn't the fact that it's an awesome name explanation enough?

 

Thanks!

…I didn't even realize that… Thanks for being cool about it. I think they're different enough anyways. War Smasher can become more dense as well and his force fields are different. I'll have to write it happening for you to see it, but it is. And Epics can have similar powers anyways.

 

 

 

I see. Feel free to add them. Though, they probably wouldn´t have much succes "destroying" Astoria, if they just travel around to honor their name.

 

 

True. The Big Four there are pretty strong, but I think The Destructors have a chance. They all have PIs and offensive powers as well as tanks and weapons. 

[Kobold King]

Oh, you mean the Warriors Nathan borrowed? They're starting to think being commanded to upvote something is unethical.

Weird, huh?

 

Ethics smethics. It's green arrows that count.

 

(I actually have no idea. Your post has Remington being his awesome self, while mine just has Lightwards thinking snotty things about Voidgaze. :/)

 

 

True. The Big Four there are pretty strong, but I think The Destructors have a chance. They all have PIs and offensive powers as well as tanks and weapons. 

 

Yeah. Lucentia's posse is strong, but they're by no means undefeatable. I think the Destructors would have a chance, as would Blackwave.

[mail-mi]

This is the current state of the timeline:

2013 A.D.: Calamity appears in the night sky. 2013 was Steelheart's publication date, and thus was selected as the year Calamity first appeared.

2014: Roughly a year later, the first Epics begin to manifest powers. Most early Epics wear masks or otherwise attempt to conceal their identities.

2014: The recently married Jeff and Marigold Carlisle join a military research facility dedicated to studying Epics.

2014: Milton Towren discovers his illusionist abilities.

2014: Thomas Cardinal discovers his necromantic abilities.

2014: Rita Blue discovers her Epic powers.

2014: Dave Elwes comes to his powers

August 2015: Alexandra Hawkins discovers her space-warping abilities.

2015: Michael Jäger discovered his Epic powers, bolting from his home town shortly afterwards and taking his sister with him.

September 24th, 2015: Annexation Day. Steelheart seizes control of Chicago, Illinois with the Great Transference. Nightwielder plunges the city into perpetual gloom. Date chosen as the novel's publication date. If anyone knows the actual date in canon, don't hesitate to let me know.

2015: U.S. government passes the Capitulation Act, declaring all Epics exempt from the law. By this point other Epic despots are believed to have seized power.

2015: Three months after Michael's Epic awakening, the younger Jäger sibling awakens to her powers.

2015: The Epics SparkCloud and Hardwire wage war in Portland, Oregon, destroying the city's central power grid.

2015-2016: Altermind seizes a portion of Portland, founding the urban center of Thoughttown.

2015: Frank Ponte gains electric and flying powers and begins working with Altermind.

2015: Jonah Trumble leaves Newcago, taking the name Chicago Joe.

2016: With no evidence of Reckoner existence prior to the Capitulation Act, this is possibly the founding year of the Reckoners.

February 2016: Steve Lawrence discovers his past-seeing abilities.

Spring 2016: Pixie's Lantern is founded.

2016: The Capitulation act begins affecting the effective running of the Carlisle's lab. The researchers and military personell shift their base of operations to somewhere off the books to prevent reprisals.

2016: Cipher gains powers.

2016: Black Jaguar and Hawkwing gain powers.

Feburary 3rd 2017: Bloody Mary discovers her blood-controlling powers.

2017: The Trattner family comes to Portland. By this point CorpseMaker's gang has become a powerful force within the city.

2017: Scorch gains powers and works for Altermind.

2017: Metalmech is recruited by the Destructors(?)

2017: BusDriver begins treking around the country in his buses in search of a more permanent home.

2018: The Epic Möbius founds the city of Calamityville, situated in a pocket universe stolen from north California.

2019: Shortly after his eighteenth birthday, Nathan Sperry is contacted by casino recruiters; hired after first interview.

Christmas 2020: Doctor Funtimes discovers her powers.

2020: War Smasher joins the Destructors.

2020: Capture of the Energy Epic who will later destroy the Carlisle's laboratory.

2021: Emma Runes discovers her friction abilities.

2021: Marigold Carlisle manifests her powers.

Winter 2021: Koschei the Deathless begins his short-lived conquest of The Dalles, Oregon.

Early 2022: Reader assists Remington Springfield by betraying Koschei's weakness to him.

2022: Sightline discovers his teleportation powers.

2022: BusDriver finds the Dalles, and begins to reside there.

2022: Baxter arrived in the Dalles.

July 2022: Energy Epic destroys the Carlisle's research facility, Purple Phoenix manifests his powers and dies for the first time, resulting in the formation of the Protector personality.

Autumn 2022: The Jägers attack on Astoria. Lucentia decided she had enough of travelling hrough the country and settled there, turning a good chunk of the city around the coast into her private "diamond gardens." Nighthound made his leave shortly afterwards, in the incident that also cost Lucentia her right arm.

Winter 2022: The Metal was released from his imprisonment and Deathgale joined Astoria.

March 2022: Remington Springfield moves to Portland.

2022: Cipher goes to the Dalles.

Early 2023: Mommy leaves Astoria and heads to Portland, picking up children along her way.

May 2023: Impact and MV manifest their abilities.

September 2023: A steady influx of High Epics floods Portland. Turf wars begin in earnest. What Happened in Portland begins. Timeport comes to his powers and betrays the Reckoners.

2024: Latest possible point of Oregon's total destruction.

2025: Death of Steelheart at the hands of David Charleston.

I'm still prepared to add new dates.

On another note, we're almost at Page 100 again.

You forgot Mommy (Jamie Weddleson) getting her powers in 2016. Not like she's *that* important, though

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles]

Ethics smethics. It's green arrows that count.

(I actually have no idea. Your post has Remington being his awesome self, while mine just has Lightwards thinking snotty things about Voidgaze. :/)

Yeah. Lucentia's posse is strong, but they're by no means undefeatable. I think the Destructors would have a chance, as would Blackwave.

(Maybe the fourth wall IS more flimsy than we thought and your Warrior hypothesis is actually true! O.O

UPVOTE REMINGTON OR THE TERRORISTS EPICS WIN! )

[mail-mi]

Hm. Is there any amount of wind that could stop a bullet? Because I was thinking that, if that was possible, that Wandersail could keep up an extremely harsh wind bubble around her during a fight as to deflect bullets, with harsh winds going away from her body and stopping a short distance away.