Highprince10 he/him Posted February 22, 2024 Author Posted February 22, 2024 16 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Guns and Wax can already break plate via WOB. Spoiler VindicationKnight To what extent could Shardplate resist a bullet? Brandon Sanderson Plate would resist a bullet well. /r/books AMA 2015 (July 15, 2015) What WOB? This is the only WOB I could find about plate and bullets. I assume Resist pretty well means it can take a couple of shots.
alder24 Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 34 minutes ago, Highprince10 said: Reveal hidden contents VindicationKnight To what extent could Shardplate resist a bullet? Brandon Sanderson Plate would resist a bullet well. /r/books AMA 2015 (July 15, 2015) What WOB? This is the only WOB I could find about plate and bullets. I assume Resist pretty well means it can take a couple of shots. This one: Spoiler Questioner How many shots would it take for Wax using his gun to break a section of Shardplate? Brandon Sanderson Depends on the gun... Okay, so Vindication. He could probably... depends on the bullet, cause he's got several styles. But let's just say two or three. There's an argument he could do it with one, with the right shot, the right bullet, in the right moment. Orem Signing (March 16, 2019) 1
Highprince10 he/him Posted February 22, 2024 Author Posted February 22, 2024 Spoiler Thanks I didn't know about that WOB
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Highprince10 said: Reveal hidden contents Thanks I didn't know about that WOB I would make sure you just search in text. The Arcanum search "Wax Shardplate" didn't show it when I had shardplate as a tag. Removed the tag and it was the first result.
alder24 Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I would make sure you just search in text. The Arcanum search "Wax Shardplate" didn't show it when I had shardplate as a tag. Removed the tag and it was the first result. Just search Wax+Shardplate. Many WoBs have no tags attached. Check out help page on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net/help/search Quote Multiple Terms Depending on how you format a search with multiple words, you will get different results. Dalinar Kholin – returns all entries containing either word. An OR query. Dalinar+Kholin – returns all entries containing both words. An AND query. Can also use “&”. “Dalinar Kholin” – returns all entries with that exact phrase. Dalinar&!Kholin – returns all entries with Dalinar and without Kholin. Dalinar<->Kholin – returns all entries with both words, where Dalinar appears before Kholin. 1
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, alder24 said: Just search Wax+Shardplate. Many WoBs have no tags attached. Check out help page on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net/help/search Thanks for this. I need the help because I have wasted hours upon hours reading and searching. This will save me so much time.
Colors Posted February 22, 2024 Posted February 22, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: I think modern weaponry would do really well against shardplate. Guns and Wax can already break plate via WOB. I get that that is with Wax as well and that is an important piece, but that is also with old ballistics. Fast forward to our day and a lot changes. Our powder is different now. Our actual bullets are different. Our capacity to carry rounds is better our delivery systems are capable of far greater rates of fire. A pewterarm would be strong enough to operate some seriously large weaponry and stay as mobile or more mobile than a typical soldier... and the tech will eventually evolve to where nearly every soldier can affordably be supplied with these things. Plus Scadrial is already intimately familure with Aluminum and all it takes is every 3rd round to be aluminum coated before you are mixing rounds that can eat through plate and rounds that can stop the ability to heal. Soothing is a great choice for everyday. The only downside is that it comes with the stigma of manipulating people around you. Once one person finds out you've been doing it then you will never be trusted again. Breeze was easily my favorite character from era 1 and it always spooks me out to think of what Hollywood would do to his character just due to the fact that emotional manipulation is so morally gray. I think this would come down to are we living in "the real world" or are we on Scardial/in the Cosmere? On Scadrial people would definitely be looking for that kind of thing, but in the real world you'd have to be really clumsy or pushing/pulling really hard for you to "get caught". People are going to have natural emotional responses to natural stimuli. If you get good at reading or providing the right stimuli you'd be very effective in just boosting/reducing the emotions correspondingly in a very effective way, if you flow with their natural expectations/emotions then it would be extremely hard to pinpoint what was happening. Perception is a funny thing, people will not perceive such a thing is possible so it will take a lot of evidence for them to even consider it. People will likely just think you're charismatic, particularly if you already have some of those tools. I look at it another way, what would I feel about soothing, how would it make me feel? Would I be ethically conflicted? I'd rather avoid such complications and just be Captain America Edited February 22, 2024 by Colors
Zapata Posted February 27, 2024 Posted February 27, 2024 On 2/22/2024 at 1:10 PM, Colors said: I think this would come down to are we living in "the real world" or are we on Scardial/in the Cosmere? On Scadrial people would definitely be looking for that kind of thing, but in the real world you'd have to be really clumsy or pushing/pulling really hard for you to "get caught". People are going to have natural emotional responses to natural stimuli. If you get good at reading or providing the right stimuli you'd be very effective in just boosting/reducing the emotions correspondingly in a very effective way, if you flow with their natural expectations/emotions then it would be extremely hard to pinpoint what was happening. Perception is a funny thing, people will not perceive such a thing is possible so it will take a lot of evidence for them to even consider it. People will likely just think you're charismatic, particularly if you already have some of those tools. Even if you are really bad at predicting someone's responses, odds are your target would think something is wrong with themself emotionally before they suspect you of being the world's only allomancer. However, I definitely think that out of zinc/brass and pewter, no one either wants to emotionally manipulate people or admit to wanting it, so pewter comes out as the preferred allomantic metal. We have virtually no reason to pewter drag, so there is little risk of savantism in real life. It has no other downsides and is not immediately noticeable like iron/steel or cadmium/bendalloy, and isn't useless (in real life) like aluminum/duralumin/nicrosil/chromium/copper/bronze. Gold and electrum are situational at best in real life, and I don't think anyone really prefers them. Tin is the only comparable metal, imo. But the real-world choice probably has to be between tin, pewter, zinc, brass, cadmium, bendalloy, and maybe gold and electrum. And out of those, I'd prefer pewter
Colors Posted February 27, 2024 Posted February 27, 2024 The more I think about it, I think Lightweaver is the best choice in real life if you're adept with your abilities...providing the oaths work with you as a person. Soulcasting is great for obvious reasons...and of the abilities one can have both are on the easier side of the spectrum as far as being able to be concealed.
Zapata Posted February 27, 2024 Posted February 27, 2024 4 hours ago, Colors said: The more I think about it, I think Lightweaver is the best choice in real life if you're adept with your abilities...providing the oaths work with you as a person. Soulcasting is great for obvious reasons...and of the abilities one can have both are on the easier side of the spectrum as far as being able to be concealed. As far as oaths go, you basically just need to be able to say the First Ideal, then be lying to yourself about four things. Not hard. And maybe be creative in some way.
Colors Posted February 27, 2024 Posted February 27, 2024 51 minutes ago, Zapata said: As far as oaths go, you basically just need to be able to say the First Ideal, then be lying to yourself about four things. Not hard. And maybe be creative in some way. It is if I don't lie to myself 1
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted February 28, 2024 Posted February 28, 2024 Everyone seems to be choosing powers based on how well they would do in combat. That seems like a mistake to me. Personally I'd go for Connection and Transformation. Those are two of the most powerful Surges in my opinion. Not because of what they can do in combat, but because of how they can reshape the world both physically and spiritually. You would also be a master of all three realms. Transformation presumably lets you realmatically transition into the Cognitive realm, and Connection lets you look into the Spiritual. You can transform pretty much anything into anything else, and you can rearange Investiture and Connection. I can only imagine how juiced Transformation would be with a bump from Connection. You could probably Soulcast entire cities at will. Add in the fact that you also get Stormlight's passive healing and Shardplate, and you are a fairly formidable combatant as well. 1
Colors Posted February 28, 2024 Posted February 28, 2024 10 hours ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: Everyone seems to be choosing powers based on how well they would do in combat. That seems like a mistake to me. Personally I'd go for Connection and Transformation. Those are two of the most powerful Surges in my opinion. Not because of what they can do in combat, but because of how they can reshape the world both physically and spiritually. You would also be a master of all three realms. Transformation presumably lets you realmatically transition into the Cognitive realm, and Connection lets you look into the Spiritual. You can transform pretty much anything into anything else, and you can rearange Investiture and Connection. I can only imagine how juiced Transformation would be with a bump from Connection. You could probably Soulcast entire cities at will. Add in the fact that you also get Stormlight's passive healing and Shardplate, and you are a fairly formidable combatant as well. That's really interesting, I hadn't thought about the application of Connection combined with Transformation. I definitely said Transformation would be one of....if not the best surge in real-life application. There's just so much practicality to soulcasting.
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