The temporal ramifications of the selish cognitive realm being stuffed with investiture

[Friendshipspren]

So yeah , as we know the cognitive realm of sel is choked full of investiture from 2 shards. Now Brandon has said in a wob that if there is too much investiture in an area it can lead to temporal effects like slowed down or accelerated time. I propose that as a result time goes extremely slow on sel. So maybe  Elantris 2 should occur around the same time as mistborn era 3 and elantris 3 at the same time as mistborn era 4 .

That's my theory. 

Thank you. 

[alder24]

9 hours ago, Friendshipspren said:

So yeah , as we know the cognitive realm of sel is choked full of investiture from 2 shards. Now Brandon has said in a wob that if there is too much investiture in an area it can lead to temporal effects like slowed down or accelerated time. I propose that as a result time goes extremely slow on sel. So maybe  Elantris 2 should occur around the same time as mistborn era 3 and elantris 3 at the same time as mistborn era 4 .

That's my theory. 

Thank you. 

The WoB you've mentioned:

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Jeremy

If vast amounts of Investiture can distort time in a similar manner as a black hole, [...] does that include Shards? Would time dilation be greater on Roshar than on Nalthis?

Brandon Sanderson

No, because the Shard is contained almost entirely in the Spiritual Realm. In the Spiritual Realm, time and distance have no meaning. So, what this means is: Large piles of Investiture that somehow make it into the Cognitive Realm or the Physical Realm are going to cause time dilation, but the Spiritual Realm—where it belongs—it's not going to do that.

That's gonna make some exclamation points raise above the heads of some people.

The Dusty Wheel Show (June 17, 2021)

I don't think the time dilation would be that massive, as this would make continuity and storytelling very difficult to be consistent. Something on a smaller scale would make sense. You need a looooot of mass to make time dilation noticeable on that scale. We've already seen characters from Sel and Elantris book in other books, most notably Stormlight and TLM, it would be hard to make this work with massive time dilation. Also Reod wasn't a big deal as most of the worldhoppers weren't aware of it - if hundreds of thousands of years had passed outside of Sel then they should all know about Reod by this time.

Also Brandon still didn't work up the timeline of Cosmere and where the Elantris series takes place. Elantris 2 takes place around 15 years after 1, and 3 hundreds years later.

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Argent

We've always understood Elantris to be one of the earliest books in the Cosmere, but we see Kaise as Codenames in The Lost Metal, one of the latest books. Has the timeline contracted significantly, or are we just looking at the typical Shadesmar time dilation tricks?

Brandon Sanderson

So, here's thing, Argent. I'm not going to be able to give you strict timelines until I write Elantris 2 and 3. So my plan, originally, which might have been a bad plan, was Elantris 2 to take place some ten or fifteen years after Elantris 1. Maybe a little less than that. But years have passed. It was called Dakhor, in my notes. And then for 3 to be hundreds of years later. I don't know if that's the right move anymore, and if 3 isn't hundreds of years later, then where we slot Elantris in is going to change because of where I need certain characters to be in some of these things, and certain things to happen. We are getting really close to where this is going to be nailed down and locked down, and I'll get locked down. Probably right when we start Era 3 is when all of this is just gonna start... I've promised you guys a timeline. Once we've released that, we don't want to retcon it, does that make sense? So that's why we're waiting to release it.

But Kaise does have some time dilation going on, though. Though I say her name wrong because I'm not from Sel. But yeah, she has time dilation going on, she is... yeah. More time has passed than the ten or so years that... she's like what, 7 in Elantris? And she's like young 20s now, visibly, the age that she appears. I believe, something like that. So yeah, there you go. There's some information for you on that. I'm playing loose and free with this until I really get down to writing these. My loose plan is still write Mistborn Era 3 book 1, Elantris 2, Era 3 book 2, Elantris 3, Era 3 book 3. Five years of writing there that I can't even really think about until I've got Stormlight 5 in Tor's hands, if not your hands.

YouTube Spoiler Stream 5 (Dec. 2, 2022)

 

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Love-that-dog

Why won't Moonlight's stamp wear off by itself?

Brandon Sanderson

This is an excellent question. The answer is—it might someday. But the other question is—it's been a spell. Depending on where I time these things, it's either been hundreds of years or decades since... Moonlight has had a lot of time to practice with powers and investigate what's possible in the Cosmere with magic and talk to some of the smartest people in the Cosmere about how it works. You should draw from the way the soulstamps work, the more mundane ones, that Shai has made a ton of progress in pushing forward the art of Forgery.

YouTube Spoiler Stream 5 (Dec. 2, 2022)

 

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Schaaschaa

How significant of an event or time period, on a cosmere scale, was the Reod actually? 10 years seems like a blip. Do most worldhoppers even know about it?

Brandon Sanderson

It was a big enough event that by now, yes they do. Most worldhoppers, actually no. Because most worldhoppers are going to be common tradespeople, things like this. Running caravans from Roshar to Nalthis or things like that. The majority of them are not paying attention to things that are happening, so I'm gonna say the majority wouldn't. But the arcanists, the people who are watching the various magic systems, who know about the Shards and are paying attention to this, what happened on Sel was a big deal.

YouTube Spoiler Stream 4 (June 16, 2022)

[Forts Board]

I read that title and my brain broke, I'll be honest.