Long Game 7: The Annealing of Luthadel

[Kasimir he/him]

It's not as though I've been exceedingly active/helpful before this, but I'd like to make a note that I will be going quasi-inactive for a while. By this, I mean I will still convey information and go to the Informant and all, but I won't be actively analysing stuff in thread and all. Uni's just started and the registrar managed to superbly mess up my status, resulting in my being stripped of my tuition subsidy and causing me some financial problems.

 

tldr; I have a lot on my plate at the moment, RL-wise. So, quasi-inactivity.

Edited August 11, 2014 by Kasimir

[Wyrmhero he/him]

A bit more than an hour left for this Night.

Edited August 11, 2014 by Wyrmhero

[Wyrmhero he/him]

Day 6

Slowly and surely, Drax climbed the wall of the Keep. He had chosen not to simply drop a coin and Steelpush on it; it would have been too easy, and he wanted to be challenged today. His fingers found the grooves that let him pull himself up, and he kept a watchful eye on the courtyard behind him, in case anyone saw him and cried out.

But that shouldn't happen. Who would expect a Mistborn to climb a wall rather than vault it? It also helped that his Mistcloak was the same pale, misty grey of the wall and the air around him. There were probably a few Tineyes keeping a lookout, but even they would have difficulty telling him apart from the wall in this fog.

He looked up and smiled slightly to himself. A window above him was open. No balcony or anything, so it would probably be unguarded. Burning his steel, he could tell that the latches weren't metal. They would never expect an Allomancer to make their way here. They'd have to be an excellent judge of angle, force and distance to manage to trumble through here.

He found another hole in the masonry and placed his hand there, hauling himself up and around the window. A few more steady feet upwards, and he was above the open window. From here, he could swing around and drop down through it, probably onto a soft carpet to muffle the sound of his unshod feet.

Drax counted to three in his head, and then gently lowered himself into the room. So far so good. No loud noises, no creaking floorboards. He took a few steps forward, his bare feet making hardly a whisper of a sound. He crept up on the occupant of the room at their desk, drew his dagger, and-

"You left your copper off, Erikell," Lord Heron explained without breaking in his writing or turning around to acknowledge the Mistborn in any other way.

Drax paused as he checked the metals he was burning. "Aha, well... I just wanted to give you a chance. It's sporting of me to do that, wouldn't you say? I mean, it'd be no fun if an awesome Mistborn like myself didn't have a challenge now and again, right? Besides, you're not a Seeker anyway. How did you know that? And how did that tell you it was me?"

"Only a fool wouldn't burn copper when infiltrating a Keep," Lord Heron said with a weary sigh. "Drax Erikell is a fool. I simply put those facts together. As for the fact I can't Seek..." He shrugged a little and then continued to write. "Do you really think I don't employ Seekers? I knew of your presence the moment you stepped onto my grounds."

"...Good points," Drax was forced to admit. He sheathed his dagger, and took a folded sheet of parchment from inside one of his many pockets. "I've got a letter for you. Drax, the errand-boy Mistborn, at your service," he swept his arm to the side and bowed in a mocking tone, though it was somewhat wasted on his employer, since his back was turned.

Lord Heron raised his arm and held it above his shoulder, waiting for Drax to pass it over. "You know, this sort of behaviour might be why you can't keep Mistborn in your services," Drax said with a sigh, even as he did as instructed. "I mean, we Mistborn are all humble and subservient and meek and we like hiding our awesomeness from the world, but even we have limits."

Heron snatched the letter from Drax' hand. "I would be quite content with you hiding yourself away from the world, but sadly that has not come to pass." He opened the letter, noting that the seal had been broken already. He read the letter, and then read it again. "Hmm, interesting. What are your thoughts on this?"

"I don't know what 'this' is," Drax said, attempting to make his face the picture of innocence as he slowly opened one of the desk's drawers and read the first piece of paper that he came across.

"You know precisely what I mean," Heron said, slamming the door shut on Drax' fingers.

Drax yelped and withdrew his hand quickly, rubbing the now-bruised fingers gently to ease the pain. Flaring pewter helped with that. "Well..." he said, wincing as he stopped and the pain returned almost as strong, "it could just be a Skaa trick, right? I mean, no reason for this to be true, right?"

Heron drummed his fingers on the desk as he thought. "Regardless... Something is rotten in that House. Keep an eye on things. If anything new develops..."

The Mistborn sighed. "I know, I know. You'll be the first to know. Anything else? Or can I go? A lot of people are counting on seeing me tonight, and if I don't show up, how will they know life is worth living?"

Heron put a hand on his face and groaned. "Yes, that's all, you are excused." He picked up his pen and began to write, but put it back down almost as quickly. "Actually, no. There was one more thing," he said, correcting himself. "Hold this," he added as he passed a heavy object over to Drax.

"What's this?" Drax asked, holding it up a little so he could see it in the candlelight. "A paperweight?"

"Precisely," Heron smiled to himself, and flared steel.

"Wh-Oof!" The weight smashed into Drax' chest, causing him to lose his breath and grimace as it crushed against his ribs . More worryingly, he found himself hurtled out of the window, suspended momentarily in the Luthadel night sky with a large metal weight in his hands. "Uh, look out below!" He shouted, dropping it quickly and immediately burning steel against it just in time to stop himself from being able to lay claim to being the flattest Mistborn in the world.

He winced as he looked at the body of Pilgras, head bashed in by the falling weight. The poor boy hadn't even heard it coming. Perhaps that was something, at least. "Well... That was not intended," he muttered to himself, scratching his chin a little as he wondered what to do about it. "Ah well, it was Lord Heron's fault", he said to no-one in particular as he Steelpushed off into the night.

*

Lord Tormander took a slow carriage back to his Keep. He was in absolutely no rush when it came to returning home. Too many deaths had been caused by carelessness these past few weeks. No, he had decided to be much more cautious than his peers. That was why he was taking a few days off out in the country every so often, and keeping his movements unknown to all but those closest to him. It was driving his Terrisman mad trying to keep up, but he wasn't particularly bothered by that.

He stepped out of the carriage at his Keep's courtyard, taking off his hat and passing it to one of his young nephews - he forgot which one it was, nor did he really care to remember. Embarrassing whelps to a man. They were everything that people in Luthadel derided the South for being, and while Hyrun was rather proud of his Dominance, he couldn't help but privately agree in this case.

"Sir-"

"Be quiet, you snivelling excuse for a noble," Hyrun snapped at one of them. "You're lucky to even be here. Back when I was young, if anyone as pathetic as you was born in the Southern Dominance, we'd leave them outside for the Skaa to eat on cold winter nights! And you'd be glad of that being your lot in life, I could tell you!"

"But sir-"

"It appears you've grown deaf already! I thought that a Tineye like yourself would be able to hear even basic orders, but it seems that you have reached a new low that I didn't even think existed."

"Actually sir, I'm the-" Another one said, raising his hand.

"Did I give you leave to speak? No? Then shut up." Hyrun sighed and took his jacket off. It wasn't a particularly cold night. One of his nephews held his hands out to take it, but Hyrun just threw it over him, to the boy's surprise. "Obligator," he said, looking to his side and waving one of the bald men over, "beat..." he hesitated as he tried to put the names to faces. looking back over at them all. "Jeremy," he decided, pointing at the one who had spoken out first. The one who apparently wasn't a Tineye.

"I'm Jeremy!" the coat-covered one said.

"And beat Oscar for contradicting me," he added. "I do not like to be contradicted." This time, while there was a squawk of indignation from the second boy to speak up, there was no more actual dissension from the group. That was good. He just wondered when it would dawn on them that he didn't really care which of them were punished when he handed out beatings.

"You," he said, pointing at the fourth of them, who was displaying great survival instincts by being quiet, standing straight and just staring into the distance. "Go and get the servants to prepare me a bath," he said. "And make sure that they don't add anything to it. I have no wish to be poisoned in my own bathtub. In fact, you bathe first in it, without telling them beforehand. Then get them to make me a fresh bath, made the same way."

This would serve him well. If the bathwater was poisoned, he'd just be down one of four replaceable and interchangeable brats. And if it was not, then he was worrying for nothing, and hopefully some of the stench of the boy would disappear as a consolation for him surviving.

"Y-yes uncle," the boy said, a small bow.

"You'll call me 'Sir' or 'Lord' while we're in Luthadel, Michael," he said. "When you're finished with Oscar and Jeremy, beat Michael as well." The fourth boy seemed strangely relaxed about that. Well, that could be changed easily. Unfortunately, he'd never been able to remember his sister's eldest's name. "And then him as well, whatshisname," he said, waving his hand at the boy in a vague fashion. "But after he's tested my bath. I don't want my bath to be blood-stained, after all."

"Very good, Lord Tormander," the Obligator nodded with a cruel grin as he clapped his hands together. "By the way, My Lord-"

"Isn't it?" Hyrun said with a smile, cutting off the Obligator as he turned back to his nephews. Then he noticed that Whatshisname hadn't left. "Well? Get on with it. Get on with it!" he said, cuffing the boy around the head when he didn't move immediately.

Then he turned to the other three, Oscar, Jeremy (who had now folded the coat around his arm in a somewhat poor attempt to be neat) and Michael. "What are you still doing here?" he asked.

"Unc-Sir," Oscar changed track hurriedly at Hyrun's withering glare, "you never ordered us to do anything, other than be beaten. Which can be done here..."

"I never told you to go away? That must be why I'm so utterly sick of the sight of you all," Hyrun muttered. "Obligator, go and take them to hall, and then beat where the servants can see."

"As My Lord commands," the Obligator said, walking off and sheparding the boys off to their random punishments.

Hyrun smiled to himself as he watched their slowly diminishing figures vanish into the mist before his Keep. "Now, I wonder what it was that Jonathon wanted?" No, wait, that was the last one's name. Which one was the one that wasn't the Tineye? Oh well, no matter.

He turned around to order the coachman to head off for the night, and was surprised to see a black-robed figure in front of him. The figure raised its hand before Hyrun's face. The hand held a few coins. "Goodbye, Lord Tormander," they said, and burnt steel.

*

In a time of crisis such as this, with seemingly half the nobility dying off and the other half traitorous wolfhounds, it was of course of vital important for the nobles to show off as much as possible. House Cett did not break the trend of being over the top and showy when they threw a party, not by any means.

The Keep itself was shaped as a perfect pentagon, with two layers within. The outer layers were for the staff to be able to cook and store cleaning materials and generally move around without being seen by the nobles, while the inner layer was where the Cetts themselves lived. Only the ground floor was open today, and the inner pentagon was divided into ten sections by low walls, forming a five-pointed star, with the innermost inverted pentagon serving as the ballroom. Most of it was covered in tables and chairs for debating, rather than dancers, however.

The first eight segments of the room were themed according to the eight different types of Misting. House Cett liked to show off their mineral wealth, and each of them contained a small pile of the relevant metal, with vials and corks to the side in case anyone wanted to restock on metal and trusted the Cetts not to poison them that way. An Obligator-Misting also sat there, and for a small fee they were willing to advise and teach about the use and subtleties of their metal.

The entrance opened up into the area for the Terrisman to eat and talk while their masters were busy politicking. While the carpet from the entrance to the ballroom was kept clear, to each side the servants could be seen discussing and sharing information. This also made it easier to overhear sensitive information as one walked through, and it was possible to see that the Terrismen seemed on edge a little. Most of what they were discussing was somehow related to the disappearances of both Bwin and Bamin, so it seemed a bit understandable.

The final tenth of the room, opposite the entrance, was comprised mostly of bookshelves, each of which was full of literature approved of by The Lord Ruler's government. They ranged from astronomy to zoology, and most of them seemed to be old and well-used over the years.

Under the spinning kaleidoscopic sphere of limelight that sat above the dance floor, a pentagonal hole opened up in the floor. A fog slowly seeped into the room from it, and the Skaa servants went from lantern to lantern, dimming the lights.

From the opening, a platform slowly rose up, presenting their host, Ashette Cett, to them in her finest dress and her fakest smile. A series of smaller lights flashed over the mist from above, coming to rest on the wall behind her and combining together to spell out 'Ashette Cett welcomes you to her House ball!'

Ashette stood straight and proud, a sheet of parchment in her hand, but before she could deliver her readied speech, a slow clap filled the room. All eyes turned to the entrance, where Lord Heron and Inquisitor Belmark were walking into the room.

"Don't encourage them, please," Lord Heron muttered, his voice carrying with the acoustics of the room. "I have enough trouble as it is."

"I thought it well done," Belmark said, his permanent wide and disturbing grin across his face. "Flashy perhaps, but impressive in its execution nonetheless." He lowered his hands as he shrugged. "The Inquisition believes in recognising and promoting talent, as you well know."

"In any case, speaking of execution," Lord Heron said firmly, halting the distracting conversation as quickly as he could, "you all know why we're here, so get on with it. And please," he added, a slight pained tone entering his voice, "for heaven's sake, don't make any more of a mockery of this than normal."

Day 6 has begun! It will end on Wednesday at 9PM BST (GMT+1)

Pilgras was an Aluminium Gnat under the employ of House Heron!

Hyrun Tormander was a Smoker belonging to House Tormander!

My thanks to Ashiok for help with his House ball.

Player List

House Tuy:
Asyr Tuy (a smart guy) [House Lord]

House Elariel:
Hadrian Penrod (Araris Valerian) [House Lord]
Quitania Elariel - Unknown Rioter
Cat Lekal (luckat)

House Seeris:
Jain Phantomhive (Lightsworn Panda) - Noble Seeker
Sylinia Seeris (Theorymaker) - Unknown Pewterarm
Cadri Raisaal (Shivertongue) - Unknown Coinshot
TelZaan - Kandra

House Urbain:
Fien Urbain (Gamma Fiend) [House Lord]
Ren Gardre (Renegade) - Unknown Tineye
Wandrin Nuvidas (New One) - Skaa Soother

House Morinthe:
Racine Morinthe (twelthrootoftwo) - Skaa Tineye

House Venture:
Tonul Venture (Tulir) - Noble Rioter

House Tormander:
Hyrun Tormander (The Only Joe) - Unknown Smoker

Unknown Affiliation:

• Kassel Erikell (Kasimir)
• Alden Izenry (Aonar Faileas)
• Ashette Cett (Ashiok)
• Kaldin Fathvell (Kal Dell)
• Finch Fain (LeftInch)
• Mesist A'lees (Metacognition)
• Mailu Willen (Mailliw73)
• Jae Kastner (jaelre)

Edited August 11, 2014 by Wyrmhero

[Kasimir he/him]

Info time:

 

1. Presumably, Ash took down Hyrun. So Hyrun was telling the truth about having been injured on Day Four. The question is, by *whom?

2. I visited the Informant about Mailu and was informed that Asyr Coinshot him on Night Five, as suggested.

3. Lastly and probably most relevant to your calculations: the skaa kill hit me last night.

 

...I got better.

 

Edit: Corrected for grammar >>

Edited August 11, 2014 by Kasimir

[Mailliw73 he/him]

As Kas said, I was injured last night. 

 

So, I take it you're a Pewterarm then, Kas?

[Kasimir he/him]

Maili, you have no idea how much I've wanted to say this ever since King has been using this repeatedly:

 

"I can neither confirm nor deny that Kassel is a Pewterarm."

[Mailliw73 he/him]

 

Well, I'm glad you finally got a chance.

[Wyrmhero he/him]

Maili, you have no idea how much I've wanted to say this ever since King has been using this repeatedly:

 

I can neither confirm nor deny that I have been using that sort of thing either zero, one or more times. Nor can I confirm or deny the fact that Kas has wanted to do so for a while. I mean, it's his head. I cannot confirm nor deny that I know what goes on in there. Hell, I can't even confirm or deny that I know my own mind sometimes.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Hadrian strode into Keep Cett and announced, "I vote for red: Lord Tuy! I said we should take down a house lord on day 1 and still think we should! His house is the only one the skaa haven't gone after."

[luckat she/her]

I think that this point in the game is a very good time for us all to combine the informant information we have contributed and received. I’ll start with mine. I will leave out a few details because that way skaa can’t just say they received a piece of information that they saw in the thread. (And I don’t really want to just tell everyone my metal or other info like that straight out.)

Night 1:
I put in my House (Elariel) and asked about Hyrun and Racine.
-I learned that Hyrun was a Smoker.
-I learned that Racine had targeted Finch Fain with her metal.

Night 2:
*Since I was House Lady this night, I won’t give the details of what I did at this time. There’s no need to make it easier for the Skaa to figure out who has what House Powers.

Night 3:
I put in my Metal and asked about Hyrun and Asyr.
-I learned that Mailu and Hyrun were in the same house. (Normally I would conceal the identity of Hyrun’s housemate, but the fact that it was Mailu is relevant later.)
-I learned that Asyr was a Coinshot.

Night 4:
I put in my Metal Action target for a previous night and asked about Hyrun and Ashette.
-I learned that Hyrun and Mailu were in a small house.
-I learned that Ashette gave a truth to the informant on Night X about Y. (X and Y being hidden unless it becomes relevant later)

Night 5:
I put in my Metal Action target for a different previous night and asked about Hyrun and Mailu.
-I learned that Hyrun used his metal on himself and Mailu on Night 1.
-I learned that Mailu used a metal action on Racine on the first Day.

Combining this information with everyone else’s should give us clues as to who hasn’t gone to the informant when and who has made suspicious actions. I have one thing to start off with.

I’ve asked about Hyrun 4 times. He said that he has only gone to the informant once, and the information that I have learned about him matches that. On the first night, I learned what he claimed he put in. On subsequent nights, I learned things that must have either been GM facts or facts put in by someone else. In my mind, the most reasonable explanation is that the things I learned about him on Nights 3 and 4 were facts about both Mailu and Hyrun that were put in by Mailu. (And the fact from Night 5 was probably a GM fact.)

This brings me to Night 5. The fact that I learned about Mailu is very suspicious. There are three possibilities:

1. This is true and was added to the information pool.
-This is unlikely since Mailu should know it is suspicious and add something else.

2. This is a lie.
-If other people have learned this, then it is probably in the information pool. If it is in the pool, then it is more likely a lie than a truth. However, if anyone had learned this yet, then I would have expected them to come forward and tell it since it helps explain the Day 1 voting shenanigans. If no one else has learned this, but has been investigating Mailu, then that might indicate that the Loyal Terrisman is at work spreading lies, and the pool of information about him is large. Otherwise, the last possibility comes into play.

3. This is a GM fact.
-Since I had only learned two facts about Mailu before, that would mean that Mailu has put no more than two facts into the pool and beg the question of what has he been doing the other 3 nights. He isn’t a House Lord, so that would mean he forgot, did the Skaa kill, spread lies, or was wounded and chose to use his metal instead.

At this point, I would like to ask Mailu to tell us whether we should believe what I learned about him on Night 5. I would also like anyone else who has asked about Mailu to tell us what they have learned. Since Kassel apparently learned something different about Mailu than I ever did last night, then perhaps he could shed some light on this.

Here’s the question I have right now: Is Mailu being set up, perhaps by a House Lord with the Loyal Terrisman, or is he Skaa?

[Aonar he/him]

"Well Lord Tuy, this is the end of the road, I believe." They'd gotten distracted last time by whatever strange game Jain had been playing, but it was clear that the true Skaa was hiding right in front of their noses. "Note something here; the two Great Houses without Skaa were attacked relentlessly, night after night. House Urbain, which we know to have been infiltrated by Skaa, was not attacked until their traitor was removed. And House Tuy? It stands alone, completely untouched."

 

Alden was a little surprised at himself, at how easily the words were coming. He'd had difficulty engaging in the discussions since Racine's lynching, but now certainty lent him confidence. 

 

"Now, this is by no means damning evidence, and to my knowledge Asyr's guilt cannot be proven, but we are running rather low on suspects, and we must start going somewhere with this ball. We're not here to dance, ladies and gentlemen, we're here to find a traitor."

 

 

So... yeah. I don't have any real strong reasons to be voting for Asyr, but he's been suspicious to me for a while now and I'm thinking I really should have pressed to lynch him last cycle rather than get distracted by Jain. I suppose Kas's Tineye had better things to be doing last night, so I'm still very much out of the loop. Feel free to correct me if Asyr happens to have been proven innocent, Kas.

[Kasimir he/him]

It bloody hurt, Kassel thought, with a scowl. He stayed off the wine (not that he drank), and tried not to think about the wound beneath the neatly tied-off bandages. They'd come for him, the skaa, on the night Drax was away. Going after the weak and the ill, Kassel thought. The skaa certainly knew how to pick their targets.
 
It was pewter that had allowed him to survive; pewter that kept him on his feet long after he should've been dead. He grimaced as his Allomantic reserves dwindled, and washed down another pewter bead with water. Pewter burned fast. Too fast, he thought, though Drax mentioned that atium burned faster, and it cost a Lord's ransom.
 
Fien could keep his rusting shirts and declare a different heir. He was contracted out to House Urbain; it didn't mean he had to care about Urbain's politics. To Alden and Hadrian, he said, "Well, my Lords Izenry and Penrod, you will be no doubt pleased to discover that I'd set my contacts to investigating Lord Tuy. I must admit, I had come to similar conclusions, albeit through a different set of propositions. Last night, I was informed that those suspicions were correct: Lord Tuy is skaa."
 
Pretty much what it says on the tin. The Genie has scanned Asyr and has discovered Asyr is skaa.

Edited August 12, 2014 by Kasimir

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

Hm, well I guess that settles it then. :/ Looks like we have to go ahead and lynch Asyr, if just to test the claim if anything else. But that does make sense, with my "theory of three" I had going on. Of course that means that not all sets of '3-roles' will probably have a skaa, but 3 noble coinshots did seem just a bit off to me.

I wish maybe that the info of Asyr being declared a skaa officially didn't happen until more voting and discussion was tossed around, though. Because now everyone has no choice but to pretty much vote for Asyr, so we can't wait and see who would have tried defending him once suspicion started piling on him.

But if this lynch does go through with Asyr being a skaa, then that'd be great for us, having 3 down so far. But let's also make sure that we don't just all pop in to place our votes this thread, we should still get some sort of discussion going. Maybe start going back and looking at what Asyr has said and/or defended. If his housemates could speak up and come forward about anything he might have said in the Doc would be helpful (just like any suspicions he had placed on people, whoever he tried deflecting accusations away from, stuff like that, etc.)
What about any Information he has reported? We might hopefully be able to try and pinpoint any lies or truths he has planted and start working our way from there to find the last one or two skaa. (All this pending on him coming back as a skaa in the lynch, of course, but doesn't mean we should just wait around for the results)

[Ashiok]

If Asyr is Skaa, I am 90% sure I know who the fourth is...

I'll vote for  Asyr. I suspected he was skaa the second he revealed his role, but I knew that saying that right off the bat would look like I was trying to cover something up. 

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Ok, so for the informant info:

Night 1: Gave my metal and asked about Cat and Quite, learned Cat's house and my house power, then Wyrm told me Cat's metal since I already knew her house

Night 2: Gave my house and asked about Finch and Kas, learned Finch is in a minor house and Kas's house

Night 3 and on: Became House Lord, used my power every night from here.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Cat, your Number 1 guess is the correct one. I used my metal on Racine and added that fact to the pool on Night 1. It wouldn't hurt me then, so I put it in. 

 

Asyr, Sorry, but traitorous skaa are not permited here.

[Kasimir he/him]

If you're 90% sure, Ash, then why don't you tell us who you think the fourth skaa is? It would help greatly, and there's really no reason, as Gamma said, why we should just be doing pretty much nothing other than waiting for the votes against Asyr to go in.

[luckat she/her]

Cat, your Number 1 guess is the correct one. I used my metal on Racine and added that fact to the pool on Night 1. It wouldn't hurt me then, so I put it in.

Did you soothe her or riot her?

If you rioted her, then that explains everything that happened with the vote (Kas's earlier Case 2 without a soother). But that would mean either a fourth rioter or that you're a Mistborn, and it still raises the question of why you interfered with the vote in the first place.

If you soothed her, then Day 1's vote could be explained by QC interfering. I'd thought that she had decided not to use her rioting, but she wasn't as clear about it as I remembered so it's possible, and we can't find out quickly at this point. But if you soothed Racine, why?

Also, if what I learned was put in the pool, then either Kas has come across it before or the info about Mailu being hit by a coinshot was in the pool. If the first, then why hasn't Kas mentioned it? If the second, then who added the info about Mailu being hit and why?

Anyway, I'll add a vote for Asyr since it seems clear that he's a skaa.

[Ashiok]

This may seem stupid, but I have a couple reasons to think it's you...

1. This whole Genie AND Tineye business. Why not just have the tineye tell us what's what? This seems like what happened last game, with a small group at the top and (SHIV!) we all know that the group was infiltrated...

2. The plan from last night. It would be fairly easy for me (if I was a skaa, which I'm not) to just use the skaa kill on my target instead of shooting them, proving that I can do damage. OR, the skaa could do that to frame me. Your supposed soaking up of the skaa kill may or may not have happened, but with your plan, it seems strange.

I'm probably wrong, but meh... This is my reasoning...

[Kasimir he/him]

Cat: I've only asked about Mailu once. The first time was last night. Hence my getting the Coinshot information. I deem that the information has been placed in the pool, and it would have to be put in by no one else other than Asyr, since there was no way Maili could have placed it on of his own accord on Night Five (it doesn't meet the standards required to be an Informant truth for him, at least), though I don't think he's in the mood to confirm it now. As I said, and if you'll look at the phrasing again, it's terribly specific: "Asyr Coinshot Mailu on Night Five."

 

I'm also not sure why the second case is particularly mysterious. Here's one reason why it would be consistent with Asyr's presumable skaa-ness and in his interests to do so. The Informant mechanic has worked out pretty badly for the skaa with what went on with Racine. This was a non-revealing truth and a godsend since he was explicitly asked to Coinshoot Maili. Storms, he could've just said Mailu was Coinshot on Night 5 and it would've passed muster. That he threw his own name in...well.

 

Ash: Seriously? (This is directed at your reasoning, nothing more.)

 

1. If the Tineye or the Genie goes down, we'd have been knee-deep in manure, to put it mildly. (This was before revealing Wandrin.) I was the one who could survive a hit and therefore expendable. And as last night demonstrated, it was a pretty good thing too. I must agree I'm not comfortable with the small-group-at-top structure the village tends to take on in these games. But my ethical qualms about how to create/play an inclusive, welcoming, and fun game do not belong in this discussion. However, you have a point and I'm not going to dismiss the possibility of skaa infiltration.

 

2. Really? Let's go through the scenarios you've listed.

2a. You use the skaa kill on Hyrun. Hyrun dies, no one else does. It becomes clear to us that something isn't quite right here, particularly when no one else would come forward as having survived/blocked the kill. You collect suspicion, not because of Hyrun's death, but because of the missing kill and no way to account for it.

2b. The skaa kill Hyrun to frame you. Quite frankly, in such a case, just as with lev, we would have had to decide based on what evidence we had available, whether it was Case 2a or 2b. That, I grant, would be a handful.

 

And last: my soaking up of the skaa kill seems strange with the plan? Really? Exactly what do you mean by that? My soaking up the skaa kill was not part of the plan (and no, it was not my plan, stop attributing it to me because I did not like the plan and spent a long time arguing with the Tineye and the storming fool in the communication network who came up with it.) It was something I'd hoped would not happen but was expecting would probably eventually happen.

[Ashiok]

There was more to 2.b, but I realize that it no longer applies... 

Never mind...

[Dellexe he/him]

It pains me to have to vote for my House-Lord, but: Asyr.

[Metacognition he/him]

Mesist had heard the rumors that he was supposed to be a Coinshot, so when he arrived at the Lady Ashette's Keep, he was carrying a sack of clips and every now and then, he would fling on at someone. Of course, after Fien's scare with Cadri, he became a favored target for Mesist. It was his not-so-subtle way of pointing out how ridiculous the idea was and he made sure that anyone that even might have believed it wound up getting hit with a clip right between their eyes. 

 

It didn't take long before the accusations started flying again, but there seemed to be a reserve to the surviving members of the Nobility. They seemed to be waiting on something and when Kassel finally stepped forward and proclaimed that Lord Tuy was Skaa, it seemed that was it. 

 

Mesist wasn't surprised by the declaration. After House Seeris had fallen the other day, he had a new level of respect for these Skaa. They might not be able to overthrow the Lord Ruler, but they had got them to destroy an entire House! Of course they would be good enough to be able to pull off being a HouseLord. 

 

"Alright," he said with a toss of a clip in Asyr's direction. "You got anything to say for yourself there, Asyr? It'd be mighty helpful of you if you'd like to tell us where the rest of your crew is. No? Oh well, it was worth a shot."

 

The thing that did startle Mesist was how cold the rest of the Nobility were being about it. No sooner had they condemned Asyr to death and they were already attacking each other, looking for whatever reason they could to kill another one of their number. 

 

This group is starting to consider this normal, he thought with a shake of his head. Lord Ruler, let us finish this mad hunt soon!

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

Well I was hoping we could get a little bit more out of Asyr's team mates than, "gee, hate to vote for my own house lord," and a vote. What has Asyr been saying in the Doc? What ideas or plans has he tried planting? Who has he mentioned in schemes, and what knowledge has he shared? Has he deflected suspicions away from anyone, tried clearing anybody with logic, etc? Day 6 should be more than long enough to have hopefully something to go off of. Raccine died Day 2, and we tried milking that for as many clues as possible, and with Newan's death, we hit a brickwall because of his inactivity, so we weren't able to work from there. But I assume Asyr had had to have been somewhat present in his own House Doc. Yes?

 

Edit: I'll also assume that Asyr's lurking silence is a good sign of his guilt.

Edited August 12, 2014 by Gamma Fiend

[Dellexe he/him]

The House Doc has been pretty silent. He hasn't really said anything other than the odd informant information.