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You're given 100 years and unlimited resources to create a Forgery-proof room. What do you do?


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Someone has hired you as a foreman, to build a room which no Forger will be able to breach. The stipulations are simple:
- You need to build a room with walls and a ceiling, with absolutely no entrances.
- The room itself cannot be Invested in a way that makes it more difficult to Forge. And no aluminum or silver.
- You can hire as many builders, architects, or anyone else as you want, and have access to any common construction material.
- The goal here is to create safeguards so that the room couldn't have ever been built with an entrance, not to directly prevent Forgery.
In a hundred years, a master Forger (think Shai as of the ending of Emperor's Soul) with more than enough Investiture and the best Forging tools will try to enter the room. This Forger can only Forge the room directly, so no making themselves an Elantrian and breaking the walls. However if they can make the walls weaker they are allowed to physically break their way in. The only things they know about the room is the contents of this post, and nothing about the construction process.

So, how do you make the room as Forgery-proof as possible? What sort of checksums can you build into time itself?

For an extra challenge, you now need this room to have at least one intended entrance, and the Forger will try to get in through anywhere that isn't that entrance.

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1 hour ago, ivychroma said:

Someone has hired you as a foreman, to build a room which no Forger will be able to breach. The stipulations are simple:
- You need to build a room with walls and a ceiling, with absolutely no entrances.
- The room itself cannot be Invested in a way that makes it more difficult to Forge. And no aluminum or silver.
- You can hire as many builders, architects, or anyone else as you want, and have access to any common construction material.
- The goal here is to create safeguards so that the room couldn't have ever been built with an entrance, not to directly prevent Forgery.
In a hundred years, a master Forger (think Shai as of the ending of Emperor's Soul) with more than enough Investiture and the best Forging tools will try to enter the room. This Forger can only Forge the room directly, so no making themselves an Elantrian and breaking the walls. However if they can make the walls weaker they are allowed to physically break their way in. The only things they know about the room is the contents of this post, and nothing about the construction process.

So, how do you make the room as Forgery-proof as possible? What sort of checksums can you build into time itself?

For an extra challenge, you now need this room to have at least one intended entrance, and the Forger will try to get in through anywhere that isn't that entrance.

The obvious answer would be to remove the dor's presence around the room, then kill the forger once they arrive.

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Just now, Experience said:

I mean 100 years seems like plenty of time to travel the world and find thousands of different materials for each brick with crazy backgrounds that they will never be able to figure out...

Why not just make the wall believe it is many many many many many little objects?

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44 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

Why not just make the wall believe it is many many many many many little objects?

Now I'm imagining someone who's job it is to come to work and talk to a brick wall for 8 hours. Seriously though how would you do that? I assume by sending someone into the Cognitive Realm?

Nice pfp btw

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I reckon that this wouldn't actually be that hard. 

First, devise a way to accurately predict and/or calculate the strength of a singular brick, of various materials, including clay bricks, metal bricks, sandstone, et cetera. The easiest way of overcoming this block is to hire a soulcaster who soulcasts air or purified water into whatever material you want to create the room out of (steel, for simplicity). 

Second, designing the room with the Intent of it having no entrances, such as a time capsule that will never be opened. This step is a little harder, as if you want to create the room out of multiple bricks or blocks or whatever, then you have to have the same exact Intent for each little piece. 

If you create the "room" as only one hollow piece (requiring a mould be made before soulcasting it, or just knowing how to soulcast a hollow object out of solid material), then it would be a lot easier, and a lot more structurally sound, (especially if you can make the "walls" like a metre thick), as you only need to have the correct Intent once. 

Fourthly, you can spend 100 years trial and error-ing to perfect the Intent and the room, as its a pretty simple process.

This is ignoring the challenge.

If you want to have an entrance, that the Forger does NOT go through, but tries to Forge their way through, then there is once again a simple process.

Lets say that the original room is a Soulcast block of steel with the dimensions 4 metres tall, 10 metres wide on each side (4x10x10). The walls are each 1 metre thick, and the ceiling and floor is half a metre thick. So, the inside volume is 3x8x8. That's not super relevant though.

Using the same Soulcaster that originally made the steel box, you then direct them, and ONLY them, with very precise instructions, to soulcast out ONE, and only one entrance into the block of steel, with very precise measurements (e.g. 1.7800 metres tall and 0.5643 metres wide(just an arbitrary measurement)). The most important part is to make sure they have the correct Intent, and the correct measurements, down to the millimetre. 

There's no need to create a door, so there will be no need to worry about that, and the need for a door should be completely ignored, even to the point of having the Intent of not creating a door, as then the Forger cannot manipulate that Connection. 

 

Since there is no time limit on how long the Forger tries to get access to the room, I feel like this would last the longest. A Forger off of Sel would have no idea what a Soulcaster is, and would spend much time trying to find imperfections in the material, which, if soulcast with pure air or pure water, would be impossible to find with the naked eye. They would also have an extremely hard time trying to make a door appear through a metre thick of steel, especially if there was originally no intent to create an entrance. However, if this is the challenge room, then they may have a slightly easier time trying to make a second entrance appear.

Also, as a sidenote, this room would have to be on a different planet, where there is no Dor presence, like Scadrial or Yolen or something, to restrict the access to Forging itself. I also quite like @Aeoryi's idea of killing the poor Forger :D

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