Aleksiel Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 Wouldn't that refute the whole purpose of an order? Seeing what our main crew has been through to get a spren, to be made Radiant, how can it be this easy afterwards to simply join one order? Besides, these people certainly aren't real Skybreaker (no surgebinding) nor do they act according to the spirit of the Skybreakers. Murdering people because their deaths is convenient certainly does not fit the purpose of the policemen of the Radiants. They should be looking for people who deserve punishment (*cough* Sadeas *cough* Amaram *cough*) and not poor people whose death would advance some hidden agenda. I just cannot see these actions as Radian-like. Now, they aren't 'murdering people, because their death is convenient', they're executing criminals. All people we've seen Nin kill or attempt to kill have been proven guilty with death as a legal punishment. Skybreaker are about law. About the spirit of the Skybreakers - who is to say they aren't living up to it? As I said, Skybreakers are supposed to put law above all else, which seems to be the case with Nin and his guys. If the KR are more about the Ideals one is supposed to live up to, then not having a spren isn't a reason to not be part of an Order. Windrunners' squires certainly count as members of the Windrunner Order without having spren themselves. Helaran wasn't a surgebinder (else the fiht would have been different), that doesn't mean he wasn't a Skybreaker. After all, Szeth is to be considered a Skybreaker now or at least in the next book and he's not having a highspren either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth of Daybreak Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) I've seen quite a few topics derailed by this discussion, and I'd hate for it to happen again. There's good debate on both sides of these issues on these threads: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7106-was-heleran-a-surgebinder/ http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/8066-was-bent-nale-right-does-surgebinding-bring-on-the-desolations/ http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7838-when-szeth-meets-zahel/ (discussion is after all the silliness. Well, maybe not all.) Edit: My own personal thoughts on Nalan are summarized in my OP here: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7531-nalan-and-ishar-the-dynamic-duo-spoilers-galore/ Edited July 6, 2014 by EMTrevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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