Kaymyth she/her Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 What is a Time Lord? The Time Lords are the Doctors' people. (Also called Gallifreyans, though the general consensus is that not all Gallifreyans wind up going through the schooling necessary to become Time Lords.)
ThirdGen Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Yup - there was at least one serial in the 70s that made it clear Time Lords are basically the aristocracy of his planet.
RippleGylf she/her Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Time Lords have two hearts, and can regenerate for a total of 13 times, unless they receive extra regeneration energy.
ThirdGen Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 So... The Woman Who Lived. Thoughts? Main thought: that is how you write an episode of Who. This season has been leaning more towards Classic Who, in a way. Better overall than last season's adventures that felt like Eleven was supposed to be in them. In Twelve's first season they toyed a bit with "this is the Doctor who might not be trustworthy," but pulled back. This season has sort of recontextualized that into "Twelve was playing with that role, then pulled back." 3
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted October 25, 2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Pretty epic! Maisie did an amazing job and I like the possibilities the ending provides 1
Kobold King he/him Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Alright, this my new favorite episode of season 9. Immortality and all its downsides, explored with more depth and heartwrenching sorrow than they ever prodded at with Captain Jack's story arc. The lion-man being from Delta Leonis made me roll my eyes, but that's a small matter. Is Ashildur the new Torchwood now? An entity who'll live through the centuries, keeping an eye on the Doctor and providing a constant face for him to run into? The possibilities are endless. Endless and fascinating, like Ashildur herself. 2
ThirdGen Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 No, Ashildr is going to be the new Torchwood: Set up as super-important, but never heard from again.
Kobold King he/him Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) No, Ashildr is going to be the new Torchwood: Set up as super-important, but never heard from again. Torchwood was super-important, for a season. That was the point of its arc. It lasted a couple of centuries, saw itself as the glorious protector of Britain, but it toppled like a house of cards the first time it faced a real alien threat. We don't hear from it again because the Battle of Canary Wharf doesn't leave anything left. The concern with Ashildur is that she won't return and she'll be left solely for the fanfic writers to return to. Personally, I'm hoping for at least a finale reappearance. Edited October 26, 2015 by Kobold King 1
Delightful Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 I know what you mean. I thought this one was a great episode, and I did quite like how it set up Arya Stark as the season's big bad (Sorry, I forget the actress' name). Unlike a lot of people though, I didn't watch it for historical accuracy. I stopped watching Dr Who for historical accuracy years ago. I do have to wonder about Lofty's baby though. I wonder if he grows up to be Vissini ("You know what that sound is, Highness? Those are the shrieking eels... They used to sing me to sleep when I was a baby.") Isn't Arya Stark a Game of Thrones character?
Kaymyth she/her Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Isn't Arya Stark a Game of Thrones character? Yes, but the actress who plays her is guesting on Doctor Who and is the person they're talking about.
Delightful Posted October 26, 2015 Posted October 26, 2015 Yes, but the actress who plays her is guesting on Doctor Who and is the person they're talking about.Ok. So I'm not totally clueless then
Bort he/him Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Ok. So I'm not totally clueless then No, I was being clueless. I had forgotten her name.
RippleGylf she/her Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Guess what? Guess what? That's what! This... this is just amazing. 2
Haelbarde he/him Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Just going to say, not impressed by the level of supervision given by those teachers at the start of the last episode. Super negligent... >:/ Edited November 3, 2015 by Haelbarde
Kobold King he/him Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Well. That episode was FANTASTIC. I love, love, love what they've done with Osgood. I liked her in Day of the Doctor, mourned her in Death in Heaven, and The Zygon Invasion is making me love her without reservation. Edited November 4, 2015 by Kobold King
Quiver he/him Posted November 8, 2015 Author Posted November 8, 2015 You know, I quite liked the Flood two-parter...but the Zygon two-parter is the best story of this season so far, hands down.
+Slowswift Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I might agree, but for some reason part 1 didn't record, ever, even when I told it to. So watching it was an... interesting experience. Welp. Time to hack the BBC.
Cartith he/him Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Guys, couchtuner.com has all the DW episodes from Eccleston onwards. Just make sure you are running adblock, or you will get nothing done. 1
ThirdGen Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I didn't like the first part (which to me left an impression that exterminating the Zygons might be a good idea), but then this second part gets to the real meat. Totally redeems it.
Haradion Drogon Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I am curious you found yourself so against the Zygons in the first episode - since it was revealed right at the end, that the attacks were reprisals for the murder of a Zygon child. In the end, I loved the episode.
ThirdGen Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Alien biology blurs the "child" thing quite a bit - if all the children in a schoolyard were adult-sized and able to fry you instantly with their hands, the distinction would be moot. This is something that happens a lot with fantasy/sci-fi elements - the mutants of X-Men, for instance, are unknown in number and have random, sometimes mass-destruction-level powers. Within X-Men stories, it's usually at least acknowledged that fear of them is understandable (they're better than humans). With shapeshifters, there's a legitimate "they could be anyone" threat that's good for horror stories. The thing that disturbed me about how the first episode framed all this was linking it contextually to fears of Islamism, and in the context of the UK, immigrants especially. They included that disclaimer at the beginning about all races being capable of war or peace, good or evil, I think precisely because the rest of the episode makes the Zygon splinter group look like a genuine sneaky threat on the danger level of, say, Communist propaganda scare movies of the 50s or 60s. Muslims, of course, can't shoot electricity out of their hands to vaporize you even when they're kids. It's troublesome mixing different levels of metaphor in this kind of story. The second episode changed the framing entirely from a "fear of infiltration and sabotage from within" to a broader "revolutionaries who just want to focus on the kill-now part." The Zygons switched from Al-Qaeda/ISIS to more of a Che Guevara thing. In neither episode did you get much of a sense of how the majority of the Zygons relate to the "Truth or Consequences" splinter sect. In The Day of the Doctor, the resolution of the Zygon plot was left a bit short, considering its implications, since it wasn't the real point of the special. There have been many cases in the show's history where The Doctor has chosen a spot to leave on a happy note, and left the cleanup to attend to itself. That cleanup has gotten messy many times (The Face of Evil, especially).
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