Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Quote ohhhhhhhh gacha. Eldritch gods tearing through reality is something I can get behind. So this "Fourth" thingie comes from... like, a parallel universe of sorts?
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: Quote https://www.17thshard.com/forum/profile/44033-aeoliae/?do=content&type=core_statuses_status&change_section=1 Second SU has more details But the fourth it comes from everywhere it just exists I guess
The Aspiring Archivist any pronouns Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) "Allera, do you have any thoughts?" Variance had noticed that they hadn't spoken much for a while. @Szeth_Pancakes Edited August 31, 2023 by The Aspiring Archivist
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Quote oh nifty you do know you can link directly to certain SU's right I do likey the magic system. It's just Beorin could eventually figure out a solid counter for it using their absolutely massive register of accumulated systems. ANYWAY 20 minutes ago, Aeoliae said: "I can tell if my air is being moved. For instance, I can tell where the ventilation shaft is in the first room we came through. My powers... They are much stronger here. They aren't chained by consequences or responsibility. I can use them much more liberally here than ever before. Or well, probably. Most likely." "Consequences? Of what variety?"
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: "Consequences? Of what variety?" "We are talking reality breaking, void bringing, world eating monstrosities. And their friends."
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 "Where do these reality-breaking, void-bringing, world-eating monstrosities come from?"
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted August 31, 2023 Author Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Aspiring Archivist said: "Allera, do you have any thoughts?" Variance had noticed that they hadn't spoken much for a while. @Szeth_Pancakes “Ayia, do you know what the layout of this ship would be?”
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: "Where do these reality-breaking, void-bringing, world-eating monstrosities come from?" "A lovely place of suffering and eternal death, the Otherside. They get prompted to visit should people use to much fourth."
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Aeoliae said: "A lovely place of suffering and eternal death, the Otherside. They get prompted to visit should people use to much fourth." "...And where does Fourth come from?" 1 minute ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: “Ayia, do you know what the layout of this ship would be?” She shook her head.
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Channelknight Fadran said: "...And where does Fourth come from?" She shook her head. "Another slightly more hypothetical power called the fifth, is what most people think generally, but we don't actually have any clue where it comes from. It just... Always exists." Edited August 31, 2023 by Aeoliae
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 "...It probably doesn't exist in this universe. At least, not the same way it would in yours." Ayia thought about it for a minute. "If it's anything like most magical energy fields... well, there's really no saying. The Macrosmos doesn't really have any 'rules' or 'laws' or whatever, but generally when something from one universe enters another, they slightly permeate it with the magic and laws of their universe of origin. In terms of magic that would mean you still have partial access to this Fourth stuff, but to a significantly lesser degree."
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Channelknight Fadran said: "...It probably doesn't exist in this universe. At least, not the same way it would in yours." Ayia thought about it for a minute. "If it's anything like most magical energy fields... well, there's really no saying. The Macrosmos doesn't really have any 'rules' or 'laws' or whatever, but generally when something from one universe enters another, they slightly permeate it with the magic and laws of their universe of origin. In terms of magic that would mean you still have partial access to this Fourth stuff, but to a significantly lesser degree." Quote So yes to Otherside or no ? "Significantly lesser? Huh. Mmmm. Probably would mess with the hedra [area of influence and precision] if anything. So there hasn't been any eldritch things in here for a while?"
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Quote Uhh... well, the way I see it, Strohger would have had to carry enough of the magical field through the portal for one such Evil Monster :TM: to make an effective rift through. I guess I don't know what this 'evil stuff' is like or anything, but I assume anything decidedly massive would have trouble fitting between the universes with just the field that Strohger's emanating. "Oh, there are plenty of eldritch horrors throughout the universes that Beorin's conquered. They're probably just unrelated to yours."
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: "Oh, there are plenty of eldritch horrors throughout the universes that Beorin's conquered. They're probably just unrelated to yours." Quote It is accessed basically through a parallel dimension which can be accessed (in theory) anywhere, so scanners wouldn't pick it up. Also, the evil monsters are complicated. They only come through big rifts. "Yep. The Otherside is a type that doesn't really do mortality."
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted August 31, 2023 Author Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: She shook her head. “Hm.” Allera felt miles out of their league.
The Aspiring Archivist any pronouns Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: “Hm.” Allera felt miles out of their league. Variance stood next to them, watching the conversation continue and feeling a bit impatient.
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Aeoliae said: "Yep. The Otherside is a type that doesn't really do mortality." Quote so here's how I'm going about this: The Macrosmos: was invented way back in the day by yours truly as a loose way of explaining the hijinks that go on in Fellowship of the Thing. Basically I was like "drop your OCs from whatever stories you want into this RP and we'll do weird stuff," and the lore was built from there. The way the Macrosmos works is that it completely ignores all other precepts of multiverse theory and such. There are plenty of "universes" within the Macrosmos which are effectively multiverses within themselves - but for the purposes of storytelling, each "universe setting" (regardless of its size) is treated as completely separate from all the others. The idea is that we don't want anybody's epic worldbuilding to be completely overshadowed by somebody else's, so even super-mega-super-magics are only as omnipotent as they are within their own narrative. Basically, this Beorin universe is completely separate from yours in terms of how magic works, which means Otherside can't just leak in the same way it would in your story. If that wasn't the case, then absolutely every story everywhere would technically have to worry about it - which is obviously weird and doesn't make any sense. However, we still like having epic wizard battles between universes, so I came up with the whole "you bring your magic with you" thingimajig. It doesn't necessarily work the same way and it probably isn't as powerful, but you can still use it. Just now, Szeth_Pancakes said: “Hm.” Allera felt miles out of their league. 2 minutes ago, The Aspiring Archivist said: Variance stood next to them, watching the conversation continue and feeling a bit impatient. "What this Admiral wants," Ayia decided, "is to use us directly."
Szeth Pancakes he/they Posted August 31, 2023 Author Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Channelknight Fadran said: "What this Admiral wants," Ayia decided, "is to use us directly." “What does that mean?”
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: "What this Admiral wants," Ayia decided, "is to use us directly." Quote M'kay but yeah I thought so that's why the Otherside hasn't been a problem thus far But wouldn't having epic wizard battles where the home side is significantly stronger be a little... Counterintuitive? It just doesn't make it epic. "Or kill us. Yes."
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Quote [shrugs] we do the narrative as it be "Most likely? Either to get firsthand sources on your powers, or to use you directly."
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Channelknight Fadran said: "Most likely? Either to get firsthand sources on your powers, or to use you directly." Quote No, I bring this up since we do have a slight imbalance problem "So how does he exactly steal powers? Or the emperor or whatshecalled?"
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Quote we do indeed ...though I am curious as to what you believe is the imbalance in question "Not steal. Acquire."
Aeoryi she/her Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: "Not steal. Acquire." Quote Allera is kinda on the weaker side and Variance is goat of the group. For the most part, shim seems weaker than variance and directly worse. "And how?"
Channelknight Fadran Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 Quote ...Ayia hasn't gone all-out yet "It depends."
The Aspiring Archivist any pronouns Posted August 31, 2023 Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: "Most likely? Either to get firsthand sources on your powers, or to use you directly." "My abilities are probably impossible for them to reasonably replicate. It's a case of pure probability, an indescribably low one at that. I can't even be sure that the process can occur in this universe. Which means... they'd probably want to use me directly."
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