Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 So I have seen evidence that the Aethers are able to communicate with their Aetherbound agents directly. Twinsoul has used his aether to spy and peak into rooms or around doorways and such. How much control do you think an aether can have? We see pewter burners as well as surgebinders instinctively use their abilities to protect or heal themselves without needing to even be aware that they are doing it. Even in awakening at the 6th heightening there is a boon that is to instinctively awaken. Do you think there could be an instinctive use for roseite where it forms to shield the user from harm? Could the Aether that they are bound to be constantly watching their aetherbound and spread forth to protect them when harm is near? This would obviously come at a cost in terms of water consumption and the aetherbound could potentially suffer adverse effects of this... but at the same time it seems the aether is quite aware of what their servants are going through and what is happening. It would seem twinsoul has a much greater connection to his aether than harmony does to Wax and perhaps to a level near that of a spren bond (although I haven't seen any spren directly shield their radiant yet but that is what stormlight healing if for anyway).
Trusk'our he/him Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: So I have seen evidence that the Aethers are able to communicate with their Aetherbound agents directly. Twinsoul has used his aether to spy and peak into rooms or around doorways and such. How much control do you think an aether can have? We see pewter burners as well as surgebinders instinctively use their abilities to protect or heal themselves without needing to even be aware that they are doing it. Even in awakening at the 6th heightening there is a boon that is to instinctively awaken. Do you think there could be an instinctive use for roseite where it forms to shield the user from harm? Could the Aether that they are bound to be constantly watching their aetherbound and spread forth to protect them when harm is near? This would obviously come at a cost in terms of water consumption and the aetherbound could potentially suffer adverse effects of this... but at the same time it seems the aether is quite aware of what their servants are going through and what is happening. It would seem twinsoul has a much greater connection to his aether than harmony does to Wax and perhaps to a level near that of a spren bond (although I haven't seen any spren directly shield their radiant yet but that is what stormlight healing if for anyway). Well, ToES spoilers: Spoiler Spore Eaters have their Aethers do this. Ulaam tells us that Crow's vines would protect her from direct harm even if she was asleep. I don't think that it would be too far fetched to consider an Aetherbound's Aether watching out for them 24/7, though it may take some dedication on their part.
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: Well, ToES spoilers: Hide contents Spore Eaters have their Aethers do this. Ulaam tells us that Crow's vines would protect her from direct harm even if she was asleep. I don't think that it would be too far fetched to consider an Aetherbound's Aether watching out for them 24/7, though it may take some dedication on their part. Does this consume water at all? Or does it just drain when used and needed?
Trusk'our he/him Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Does this consume water at all? Or does it just drain when used and needed? ToES spoilers: Spoiler It is constant, but likely the amount of water used increases as the Aether is drawn on more. One of the big reasons Crow wants to get cured of her Aether is because it is constantly draining her of water, with the effects increasing over time. She would eventually be unable to sustain herself and would wither away into a dehydrated husk from her Aether's unquenchable thirst.
Leuthie Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Does this consume water at all? Or does it just drain when used and needed? I don't think the awareness consumes any more water than the Connection already does. Doing something in response to a threat would consume more water, though. Edited May 5, 2023 by Leuthie
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Trusk'our said: ToES spoilers: Reveal hidden contents It is constant, but likely the amount of water used increases as the Aether is drawn on more. One of the big reasons Crow wants to get cured of her Aether is because it is constantly draining her of water, with the effects increasing over time. She would eventually be unable to sustain herself and would wither away into a dehydrated husk from her Aether's unquenchable thirst. Is this a form of savantism? Or just a natural downside to using them? Do all of the Primal Aethers used for Aetherbound work in similar fashion? Is Twinsoul at similar risk?
Trusk'our he/him Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Is this a form of savantism? Or just a natural downside to using them? Do all of the Primal Aethers used for Aetherbound work in similar fashion? Is Twinsoul at similar risk? Don't know if I really need to put this in more spoilers, but more ToES spoilers ahead, just in case. Spoiler Is it Savantism; probably not- that's caused by using an Invested power to frequently and having your body become intwined/dependent on it. It sounds like it's just a natural downside of being a Spore Eater. As for the actual Aetherbound, I think they're safe; their Aethers are more sapient and do not draw unnecessary amounts of water from their hosts, at least from what we can tell.
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted May 5, 2023 Author Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Trusk'our said: Don't know if I really need to put this in more spoilers, but more ToES spoilers ahead, just in case. Hide contents Is it Savantism; probably not- that's caused by using an Invested power to frequently and having your body become intwined/dependent on it. It sounds like it's just a natural downside of being a Spore Eater. As for the actual Aetherbound, I think they're safe; their Aethers are more sapient and do not draw unnecessary amounts of water from their hosts, at least from what we can tell. Awesome. Thanks. 1
Trusk'our he/him Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 Just now, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Awesome. Thanks. Anytime
Underwater_Worldhopper he/him Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) On 5/5/2023 at 6:48 PM, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: Is this a form of savantism? Or just a natural downside to using them? Do all of the Primal Aethers used for Aetherbound work in similar fashion? Is Twinsoul at similar risk? TotES Spoilers Spoiler It has similar effects to what you'd see with Savantism (an advantage that comes with a steep cost, which gets worse over time), but it isn't actually Savantism. The Aethers on Lumar are just less sentient, more aggressive strains of Aether than the ones we see in people like Twinsoul, so they naturally protect their host as they suck them dry of water to feed the parent Aether on the moon. The longer they live, the more the Aether feels it can draw on their water without killing the host, but the host eventually dies anyway since the Aether's thirst gets too strong. Edited May 7, 2023 by Underwater_Worldhopper Whoops
alder24 Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 48 minutes ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Spoiler It has similar effects to what you'd see with Savantism (an advantage that comes with a steep cost, which gets worse over time), but it isn't actually Savantism. The Aethers on Lumar are just less sentient, more aggressive strains of Aether than the ones we see in people like Twinsoul, so they naturally protect their host as they suck them dry of water to feed the parent Aether on the moon. The longer they live, the more the Aether feels it can draw on their water without killing the host, but the host eventually dies anyway since the Aether's thirst gets too strong. SP1 spoilers are not allowed here, please edit your message and put that whole thing in the spoiler box.
Underwater_Worldhopper he/him Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, alder24 said: SP1 spoilers are not allowed here, please edit your message and put that whole thing in the spoiler box. Good catch!
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted May 7, 2023 Author Posted May 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, alder24 said: SP1 spoilers are not allowed here, please edit your message and put that whole thing in the spoiler box. When did that come out? I can't remember the exact spoiler quarantine guidelines.
alder24 Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tamriel Wolfsbaine said: When did that come out? I can't remember the exact spoiler quarantine guidelines. I think it's 6 months for SP1, it came out on the 1st of January. But as long as there is a separate subforum for this book, it must be spoiler-tagged everywhere else.
Tamriel Wolfsbaine Posted May 7, 2023 Author Posted May 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, alder24 said: I think it's 6 months for SP1, it came out on the 1st of January. But as long as there is a separate subforum for this book, it must be spoiler-tagged everywhere else. Ah okay.
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