Trusk'our he/him Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 I hadn't though of this till just now, but could a Steel Inquisitor or other Hemalurgist with four or more spikes avoid being controlled by others by storing their ability to form Connections to others via Feruchemical duralumin? After all, when Vin controls the Koloss she seems to do so by forging Connections to them. But if those Connections never formed in the first place, she wouldn't have been able to control them.
TheSurvivorofDeath Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) I don't think it's exactly forming connections. It's more a manipulation of the cognitive through the cracks formed by hemalurgy. You use the same principles as emotional allomancy, simply on a level that manipulates actions rather than emotions, overpowering the will of the individual to do anything other than what you say. Tapping determination from electrum would allow them to resist though. Edited February 10, 2023 by TheSurvivorofDeath 1
Quantus he/him Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, TheSurvivorofDeath said: I don't think it's exactly forming connections. It's more a manipulation of the cognitive through the cracks formed by hemalurgy. You use the same principles as emotional allomancy, simply on a level that manipulates actions rather than emotions, overpowering the will of the individual to do anything other than what you say. Tapping determination from electrum would allow them to resist though. This precisely. Note that same applies to a person with enough mental illness (as, for example, when Ruin was able to puppet more than one in era1), not purely from hemalurgic Spiritual Damage.
Trusk'our he/him Posted February 10, 2023 Author Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, TheSurvivorofDeath said: I don't think it's exactly forming connections. It's more a manipulation of the cognitive through the cracks formed by hemalurgy. You use the same principles as emotional allomancy, simply on a level that manipulates actions rather than emotions, overpowering the will of the individual to do anything other than what you say. Tapping determination from electrum would allow them to resist though. But what about when Vin retains control of the Koloss, even though she isn't still using Emotional Allomancy? Isn't that a matter of Connection?
TheSurvivorofDeath Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 She's broken their minds. They don't have the will to break her control so she doesn't need to maintain her allomancy. And, in any case, if that is connection it occurs after she takes control, so storing connection would not help to resist.
alder24 Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 It's about mind and how it thinks. Emotional allomancy changes the way mind thinks and allows an Allomancer to take control. Spoiler Brandon Sanderson The Resolution TenSoon and the other kandra resist Ruin and are able to pull the spikes from their shoulders. There are a couple of reasons why they can do this. The power that Allomancers have to take control of them is the same power Ruin has. That control is exerted in the form of mental pressure through emotional Allomancy. As can be seen from Marsh's viewpoint, it is more than simply forcing the body to act as Ruin wishes. The extreme pressure on emotions changes the very way the mind thinks, tricking it into doing exactly what Ruin wants. The flaw in Hemalurgists leaves them open to this kind of manipulation. Kandra, who only have two spikes, are far more difficult to control than koloss or Inquisitors. Vin is able to control TenSoon with ease in book two, but that's partially because he wanted her to do so. He would have been able to resist her. If she'd continued to push, she could have broken him, but it would have taken time. Even Ruin's pressure wasn't enough to take control immediately. The kandra had a few moments during which they could overcome him and maintain their free will. Beyond that, they were in a cavern surrounded by metal ore in the walls, making it very difficult for Ruin to see what was going on and interfering with his ability to control them. The Hero of Ages Annotations (May 13, 2010) While manipulating connection can control hemalurgic construcs, emotional allomancy doesn't do that.
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