bondsmith

[Blue-phoenix186]

Can someone please  explain dalinar’s  powers to me they still really confused

 

Edited August 31, 2022 by Blue-phoenix186
Wanted to talk about a different time

[BinarySecond]

Could you provide some details about what specifically is confusing you?

[SpinningSky he/him]

To be honest I'm pretty sure Dalinar is still quite confused as well so it's a fair question 

[EmTheElsecaller]

I think, from what we know (which is admittedly very little) that he has the power to bring things together and make Connections in the Spiritual realm. ‘Bringing things together’ is a very subjective phrase - part of his second Ideal, for example, was to ‘bring men together’ but it didn’t specify whether this meant on the scale of unifying Roshar or solving arguments in day-to-day life. I took it to mean both. 

Here is a list of examples of Dalinar using his powers: (I will have missed lots off, but these are all I could think of)

- Connecting with a man in Azir to give him the power to speak Azish

- Rebuilding a fallen temple, stone by stone, in Thaylen City - bringing the stones back together (to be honest, this one’s a bit tenuous but it works)

- Opening Honor’s Perpendicularity into Shadesmar (unifying the Physical and Cognitive realms)

- Uniting several monarchs of Roshar and forming the coalition 

- Uniting (some of) the highprinces (admittedly this was before he bonded the Stormfather, but he was on the path of Radiance so we can probably assume his fledgling powers may have something to do with this)

As I said, we know very little of his actual powers because Dalinar himself is still figuring them out. The Stormfather has hinted that there is lots more Dalinar can do with his Surges that he has yet to discover. And now that we have another Bondsmith, Navani and the Sibling, we will have two Bondsmith discovery arcs. (I’m assuming, since Bondsmiths are very unique and don’t have as much in common with each other as other Orders might have with other members, that Navani’s powers will differ slightly from Dalinar’s.)

I hope some of that helped 

[SpinningSky he/him]

To get into crazy theories and whatnot, I like to think that we will keep hearing the "Unite Them" sentence as it evolves, from uniting the Pricedoms, to uniting the realms, up to a point in the very distant future where it will be the shards of Adonalsium to be reunited thanks to a Bondsmith, the ultimate "Unite Them"

 

EDIT: 

Thinking about it, would it be ridiculous for Dalinar to put Honor's shard back together at the end of book 5? It would make sense, and justify the drastic change in the world expected in the second half of the series

Edited September 1, 2022 by SpinningSky

[EmTheElsecaller]

9 hours ago, SpinningSky said:

Thinking about it, would it be ridiculous for Dalinar to put Honor's shard back together at the end of book 5? It would make sense, and justify the drastic change in the world expected in the second half of the series

This is what I think! Especially since I have a theory that the people who Cultivation visited were the people marked for Ascending to a Shard - Lift for Cultivation, Taravangian for Odium and Dalinar for Honor - and someone ascending to Honor would mean the shard would have to be unSplintered somehow.

What would this mean for the Stormfather though…?

[SpinningSky he/him]

55 minutes ago, Elsecalling… said:

What would this mean for the Stormfather though…?

Well the storm was a preexhisting condition right? I guess the consciousness of all sprend splitentered from Honor would be trasferred to the complete Shard and kind of, die, which would make for a cool goodbye between Dalinar and the Stormfather

[The Stormuncle]

On 9/1/2022 at 2:40 AM, SpinningSky said:

EDIT: 

Thinking about it, would it be ridiculous for Dalinar to put Honor's shard back together at the end of book 5? It would make sense, and justify the drastic change in the world expected in the second half of the series

This is what I think will happen. I think of honorspren as two generations. Essentially the entire first generation of honorspren became deadeyes with the recreance. I like to think of the second, and current generation of honorspren as made from the rest of the remnant investiture that did not get placed into the Stormfather when Honor was splintered. I think the mantra to “unite them” was always talking about uniting the entirety of one of the generations of honorspren along with the Stormfather to recreate the Honor Shard. Dalinar’s previous interpretations of the command where just him misunderstanding the assignment, and learning leadership, and his powers well enough to “unite” the correct “them”.

To speculate who will take up the shard, I think it eventually goes to Taravangian making him into the “War” Shard. It might have a fancier name than that. RoW spent too much time on how to mix Stormlight and Voidlight to get Warlight to not think the shards will join. The changing hands of a Shard is a huge deal so I think it’s too soon to give Odium to someone else. Taravangian is likely to remain the big bad. The biggest evidence in the text is when Cultivation says to Taravangian that he can bear the Odium Shard “with honor”. I have to think that is intentionally placed as a clue, and not just a mundane compliment. Odium’s previous vessel had resisted the idea of taking up additional shards because he thought Odium fit him so well he didn’t want to dilute it. With a new vessel in charge that may no longer be a guiding principle.

If we want to go another step further out onto a limb I feel like adding the Cultivation Shard to the “War” Shard would continue to make the Rosharan Big Bad Shard extra terrifying. Cultivation is all about growth, and change with little regard for cost. Adding that to War would be become something akin to the Military Industrial Complex Shard. Which could sweep out into the Cosmere as the Biggest Bad. This is a speculation too far out to put money on however. Especially since I fear cultivation more than Odium at least to a degree. Cultivation is the mastermind behind the fates of Lyft, Dalinar and Taravangian. Aka the main forces of the plot so far. So she is not a push over to be underestimated.