+Oltux72 he/him Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 We have learned from SP#4 that Threnodites turn to Shades outside Threnody. Has anybody thought about the implications? Consider this: You are trying to get the barbecue lit and children are running around in the garden. Your Threnodite neighbor suffers a fatal stroke. How is that issue dealt with? Segregated housing? Threnodite registration laws? Are you potentially dangerous if just your grandfather was Threnodite? There are obvious historical examples and I am personally wondering who the Threnodite Magneto will be, but a mean question looms. Would such laws be justified, even necessary?
Yumiya Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 Aux says they only turn into shades under the right circumstances. He also suggests that maybe they are not afflicted with that effect if they left before the shard's death. But for the sake of your question, we assume that these Threnodites can turn into shades. I doubt segregated housing or registration laws would be necessary. Shades actually seem pretty useful. They eliminate other predators and kinda act as a peace keeping force, preventing the shedding of blood. If the planet in question is rich in silver, just do what the waystops do, with the silver rings to create a safe spot. I think all that is actually kinda moot by the time we get to SP4. We have heard accounts of Nazh having a gun that basically shoots shades as ammunition. Clearly he found a way to contain shades. Just do that to any shade that appears. Make it a kindergarten emergency classroom drill with some catchy saying, like we have "Stop, drop, and roll" for fire safety. No descrimination, no Nazi star badges, no ancestry registries. Just free ammo. 2
bmcclure7 Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 3:45 AM, Oltux72 said: We have learned from SP#4 that Threnodites turn to Shades outside Threnody. Has anybody thought about the implications? Consider this: You are trying to get the barbecue lit and children are running around in the garden. Your Threnodite neighbor suffers a fatal stroke. How is that issue dealt with? Segregated housing? Threnodite registration laws? Are you potentially dangerous if just your grandfather was Threnodite? There are obvious historical examples and I am personally wondering who the Threnodite Magneto will be, but a mean question looms. Would such laws be justified, even necessary? That only those killed by shades read forest of hell
+Oltux72 he/him Posted August 23, 2022 Author Posted August 23, 2022 On 18.8.2022 at 8:51 PM, bmcclure7 said: That only those killed by shades read forest of hell Well, no. Those killed by Shades continue for sure. That does not mean that others do not. Otherwise, how would the first Shade have arisen?
bmcclure7 Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Oltux72 said: Well, no. Those killed by Shades continue for sure. That does not mean that others do not. Otherwise, how would the first Shade have arisen? Unknown but forest of hell is clear.
Mr. Misting he/him Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 9:27 AM, Yumiya said: But for the sake of your question, we assume that these Threnodites can turn into shades. I doubt segregated housing or registration laws would be necessary. Shades actually seem pretty useful. They eliminate other predators and kinda act as a peace keeping force, preventing the shedding of blood. If the planet in question is rich in silver, just do what the waystops do, with the silver rings to create a safe spot. I think all that is actually kinda moot by the time we get to SP4. We have heard accounts of Nazh having a gun that basically shoots shades as ammunition. Clearly he found a way to contain shades. Just do that to any shade that appears. Make it a kindergarten emergency classroom drill with some catchy saying, like we have "Stop, drop, and roll" for fire safety. No descrimination, no Nazi star badges, no ancestry registries. Just free ammo. I love your comments Yumiya, this is most of what I was going to say. One thing I have to add though is that shades are a massive problem in Shadows for Silence only because of the already bad/violent life styles that we see the characters have. If shades were existing in a small modern town where everyone just goes about there day without needing to kill people, the shades would never be angered. Also then there would be much less death and so there would also be less shades in general. Yes, society would probably need to stop running and setting fires but besides that they are just chill ghosts. One actual issue is that they float through walls and might accidently kill someone in their sleep, but that's a different problem.
+Oltux72 he/him Posted September 8, 2022 Author Posted September 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Mr. Misting said: One thing I have to add though is that shades are a massive problem in Shadows for Silence only because of the already bad/violent life styles that we see the characters have. If shades were existing in a small modern town where everyone just goes about there day without needing to kill people, the shades would never be angered. Do you have any idea how often small children run?
Yumiya Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Oltux72 said: Do you have any idea how often small children run? Does that matter if they are in a silver circle?
Mr. Misting he/him Posted September 8, 2022 Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Oltux72 said: Do you have any idea how often small children run? I just checked the coppermind and it has informed me that shades are only enraged when people move quickly at night. That means that children and the such can run all day if they want. Also children would definitely be aware of the fact that they will die if they run, the would probably be kept in silver circle rooms until they can be trusted enough not to run. I still think this hypothetical society would still be fine with shades, sure they would be mildly inconvenienced but almost no one would die. Edited September 8, 2022 by Mr. Misting
Frustration Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Yumiya said: Does that matter if they are in a silver circle? Yes, Silence's grandmother was inside one and still died lighting a fire. Large numbers of shades can overcome a circle. And how much silver do you think this country has? 9 hours ago, Mr. Misting said: I just checked the coppermind and it has informed me that shades are only enraged when people move quickly at night. That means that children and the such can run all day if they want. Also children would definitely be aware of the fact that they will die if they run, the would probably be kept in silver circle rooms until they can be trusted enough not to run. I still think this hypothetical society would still be fine with shades, sure they would be mildly inconvenienced but almost no one would die. That would be like being fine with wolves living in you neighborhood, no one would actually put up with it.
Rg2045 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Frustration said: Yes, Silence's grandmother was inside one and still died lighting a fire. Large numbers of shades can overcome a circle. And how much silver do you think this country has? That would be like being fine with wolves living in you neighborhood, no one would actually put up with it. People are prejudice and paranoid about the smallest of things imagine giving them an actual reason to be scared. They would commit genocide of the “shades” or use them as slaves. only small pockets of people would be willing to house such dangers. And even they might be targeted by the surrounding towns.
Lidolas he/him Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 10:32 AM, Mr. Misting said: I just checked the coppermind and it has informed me that shades are only enraged when people move quickly at night. No more Friday Night Lights?
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