Savantism Through Duralumin

[Underwater_Worldhopper he/him]

17 minutes ago, alder24 said:

Existence of Firemothers suggests they can be used to both store and fill, but this option may be locked for some reason, or maybe only Ferrings can both store and tap, or there is another machine that is used for that, which can't be used on a field. Hard to say but I do agree medallions are far more limited than we like to think.

Maybe they just stay indoors where the place around them is superheated, and they're always storing as much as they can? Brass is easier to fill than most other Metals. You can only ever store however much of an attribute you have: You can't weigh 10kg and then start storing 50kg per second. But you could do that with Brass if you had an outside heat source. Start storing everything in the Brassmind and then step into a fire, and you could store heat far quicker, provided you don't pull the heat out so quickly you extinguish the flame.

17 minutes ago, alder24 said:

Or maybe the main limitation is how rare are Metalborns in Malwish? Their genes are very weak, only as good as the Pre-Rashek population had, and those were transported there from regions other than Terris, which would weaken Feruchemical genes even more among their population. This might have been the reason why there are no soldiers using medallions, because they have to wait literally hundreds of years for a single Steelrunner (which is rare even in the Basin) to be born. They might get lucky with F-brass and other metals, or those were introduced to them by Kelsier's partner, as Kelsier had to have a Full Feruchemist (or 16 Ferrings or Marsh could help with few of those powers) working with him to create the Bands.

That makes sense too. I wonder why Harmony didn't cultivate them a bit more, especially soon after his Ascension. Give them more Metalborn, maybe create a few Mistborn like he did Spook, given their entire civilization almost died out entirely.

[alder24]

3 minutes ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said:

Maybe they just stay indoors where the place around them is superheated, and they're always storing as much as they can? Brass is easier to fill than most other Metals. You can only ever store however much of an attribute you have: You can't weigh 10kg and then start storing 50kg per second. But you could do that with Brass if you had an outside heat source. Start storing everything in the Brassmind and then step into a fire, and you could store heat far quicker, provided you don't pull the heat out so quickly you extinguish the flame.

Oh right, that's obvious.

3 minutes ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said:

That makes sense too. I wonder why Harmony didn't cultivate them a bit more, especially soon after his Ascension. Give them more Metalborn, maybe create a few Mistborn like he did Spook, given their entire civilization almost died out entirely.

Well, he did Cultivate north and they ended up developing very slowly. And Harmony changed only Spook into Mistborn, because Kel asked him for it, and he changed him into weak Mistborn, not Lerasium powered one. I think that says a lot that Harmony didn't want to make those powers more common.

[Underwater_Worldhopper he/him]

11 minutes ago, alder24 said:

Well, he did Cultivate north and they ended up developing very slowly. And Harmony changed only Spook into Mistborn, because Kel asked him for it, and he changed him into weak Mistborn, not Lerasium powered one. I think that says a lot that Harmony didn't want to make those powers more common.

Reminds me of the theory that Harmony is actively trying to weaken the Metallic Arts. But he couldn't have known the north would develop slowly after he'd just set the basin up, and he surely would have noticed the horrific mass deaths in the south going on at the same time. I suppose a few people being Mistborn wouldn't have helped much, since only Pewter would have helped them, and unless he wanted to make enough of them Mistborn that whoever was left would end up kicking off a society of hyper-powerful Allomancers, and the only real way besides making all of them Allomancers would be to make some Fullborn Compounders, which Sazed would sooner eat Odium than make another one of, it wouldn't have helped. He mustn't have realized the extent of the Metallic Arts and the possibility of Unsealed Metalminds.

 

 

 

 

 

But how did Kelsier know? There's always another secret....

Edited May 28, 2023 by Underwater_Worldhopper

[cometaryorbit]

I kind of think Intent was biting Sazed pretty fast, and the problem in the South might not have been immediate. The climate might have taken some time to adjust. If it was too cold for them to go outside, how did they last 10-12 years at all? Surely they didn't have that much food stored up...

I actually wouldn't be surprised if seeing what was happening in the South pushed Sazed toward inaction.

I don't think Sazed really wants to reduce the Metallic Arts per se, but he doesn't want another TLR, which might be why he only made Spook a reduced power Mistborn.

Edited May 28, 2023 by cometaryorbit

[Underwater_Worldhopper he/him]

10 hours ago, cometaryorbit said:

I kind of think Intent was biting Sazed pretty fast, and the problem in the South might not have been immediate. The climate might have taken some time to adjust. If it was too cold for them to go outside, how did they last 10-12 years at all? Surely they didn't have that much food stored up...

The Intent shouldn't have affected him that quickly, and the climate in the South would've changed pretty fast since it was caused by the planet literally moving away from the sun. I do wonder how they survived for 10 ish years, but we'll just have to wait and see for that one.

10 hours ago, cometaryorbit said:

I actually wouldn't be surprised if seeing what was happening in the South pushed Sazed toward inaction.

Why is that?

10 hours ago, cometaryorbit said:

I don't think Sazed really wants to reduce the Metallic Arts per se, but he doesn't want another TLR, which might be why he only made Spook a reduced power Mistborn.

There was a whole thread about it, I don't remember the points that were made on there but there were a lot of WoBs to back the theory, so you're welcome to find it if you're curious.