A New Coin

[Mazman he/him]

I was thinking about the limitations of coins as projectiles, when inspiration hit me. What if the coin was instead of one metal, but rather it was more like a pie of metals. Theoretically, this coin would allow a Mistborn, or someone with access to Pushing and Pulling, would be able to control where the coin is in relation to their body. You could also implant these coins in Awakened swords, and then you could have a Nightblood you don't touch. It works in my head, but I'm not sure if it would actually work.

[Morningtide she/her]

I could see that. Are you saying that you would be able to pull on the metals on different sides of the coin, which would allow you to nudge the coin to one side? i.e. pulling on the right side slightly and pushing on the left would make the coin curve? 

It makes sense, but you would need a lot of expertise and a very subtle touch. 

[NameIess]

24 minutes ago, Mazman said:

I was thinking about the limitations of coins as projectiles, when inspiration hit me. What if the coin was instead of one metal, but rather it was more like a pie of metals. Theoretically, this coin would allow a Mistborn, or someone with access to Pushing and Pulling, would be able to control where the coin is in relation to their body. You could also implant these coins in Awakened swords, and then you could have a Nightblood you don't touch. It works in my head, but I'm not sure if it would actually work.

This would work without the need for different metals. If a mistborn is skilled enough, they can push on different parts of objects.

 

[Mazman he/him]

Oh. Yeah, I forgot about that. Never mind, my post is completely irrelevant. Although it might be able to be used to train Mistborn to do the pushing thing you mentioned, but other than that I cannot think of a use.

[HSuperLee]

There is some validity to making it out of multiple metals, or at least multiple identifiable sections, in order to aid in the coinshot perceiving the different parts that can be pushed on. We can't ignore how important perception is to this, and so whatever would aid in allowing the misting or mistborn to see that coin as many parts would make it easier for those with less skill.

[Anomander Rake he/him]

51 minutes ago, Mazman said:

Oh. Yeah, I forgot about that. Never mind, my post is completely irrelevant. Although it might be able to be used to train Mistborn to do the pushing thing you mentioned, but other than that I cannot think of a use.

Totally a valid idea, but its too much from the get-go.  It'd be better starting with a rod, maybe a few feet long, with either half of its length being made of a different metal, to make the distinction of several-metals-one-object initially as obvious as possible.  This is also handy because we've seen a Mistborn (Kel fighting Bendal in the square) do exactly this, spinning some metal bars in place midair, so we know its something they can do!  As you get better though, more unique sections of metal per object would certainly grant finer control, should all this work as we are assuming it does.

I wonder if with enough practice and finesse you could get have a mistborn directing a coin around like Yondu's arrow XD

[Frustration]

Even if it was made of differnet metals it would have to be made of different pieces for anyone to do it, otherwise you would need someone with exceptional skill.

[Anomander Rake he/him]

46 minutes ago, Frustration said:

Even if it was made of differnet metals it would have to be made of different pieces for anyone to do it, otherwise you would need someone with exceptional skill.

I think that's the point he is trying to make, we have seen it done with singular objects, so if we have something that, while it would still spiritually be one object, has separate sections that a mistborn should be able to detect, training to accomplish the former could be done. 

Kelsier, our exceptionally skilled allomancer, was able to pull it off [spinning the bars in place midair - simultaneous pushing pulling on a single object] using metal bars that were all of a piece, and several of them at that!  A rod or coin of differing metals should give the allomancer a better sense of the their ability to push or pull on a specific part of the object as demarcated by different metals, to hone such skill.

In my head, this feat is a matter of finesse as opposed to raw allomantic ability, though perhaps this isnt the case and greater "strength" in a metal also means greater fine control (ie Zane's Steel)

*edit* for clarification sake - say the bar is half steel, half iron, where, for our mundane selves, the steel section is painted blue and the iron red.  The rod is still a single object, but its composition/coloring encourages the mistborn to think not "i am pushing the rod" but "i am pushing the blue end of the rod so it moves as such".  Whereas we would need the paint, the mistborn should be able to see the different metals and go about adjusting their thought in the same way

Edited January 12, 2022 by Anomander Rake
better explaining myself

[Trusk'our he/him]

On 1/12/2022 at 11:35 AM, Anomander Rake said:

I wonder if with enough practice and finesse you could get have a mistborn directing a coin around like Yondu's arrow XD

I actually imagine there being a spanreed of sorts that does something like this someday. I would be a difficult endeavor to be sure, but an awesome one.

[EmulatonStromenkiin he/him]

just use a double headed spear, it has metal two parts, one on each end of a wooden rod.