Steel Inquisitors as constructs

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I would like to note WoB says that there can be complications with inquisitors reproducing with humans, so they clearly are no longer human in some way.

[StanLemon]

1 hour ago, Ookla the unintelligible said:

WoB's clarify books, and the books leave it unclear as to whether inquisitors had feruchemy. In fact, considering that Vin thought the only way to kill an inquisitor was to crush their head, I would say that it is almost certain that they did have F-gold.

Except that the one they fought at the beginning of HoA was the first they examined to have a Spike that wasn't Steel or Brass meaning they couldn't have had F-Gold. Vin gets concerned when it uses an ability that couldn't have been Allomancy and at first Elend almost dismisses the possibility of it until he remembers Vin has a habit of being right. If they had fought other Inquisitors that had any kind of Feruchemy that could be outwardly noticeable (Pewter, Steel, Gold, and maybe Iron for example) then that interaction doesn't make sense.

Vin had been told that to kill a Steel Inquisitor was to separate the linchpin from the eye spikes. In fact, in that very first fight she tries to first go after the linchpin and when that fails she uses a Koloss to surprise attack and decapitate it. All derived from the information she got from Marsh and from seeing Kelsier kill an Inquisitor. 

[Frustration]

1 minute ago, StanLemon said:

Except that the one they fought at the beginning of HoA was the first they examined to have a Spike that wasn't Steel or Brass meaning they couldn't have had F-Gold. Vin gets concerned when it uses an ability that couldn't have been Allomancy and at first Elend almost dismisses the possibility of it until he remembers Vin has a habit of being right. If they had fought other Inquisitors that had any kind of Feruchemy that could be outwardly noticeable (Pewter, Steel, Gold, and maybe Iron for example) then that interaction doesn't make sense.

no it just means that the two others they had killed didn't have F-gold which given that Ruin wanted those ones to die so Vin could get the Koloss makes sense.

[NameIess]

1 minute ago, StanLemon said:

Except that the one they fought at the beginning of HoA was the first they examined to have a Spike that wasn't Steel or Brass meaning they couldn't have had F-Gold. Vin gets concerned when it uses an ability that couldn't have been Allomancy and at first Elend almost dismisses the possibility of it until he remembers Vin has a habit of being right. If they had fought other Inquisitors that had any kind of Feruchemy that could be outwardly noticeable (Pewter, Steel, Gold, and maybe Iron for example) then that interaction doesn't make sense.

Vin had been told that to kill a Steel Inquisitor was to separate the linchpin from the eye spikes. In fact, in that very first fight she tries to first go after the linchpin and when that fails she uses a Koloss to surprise attack and decapitate it. All derived from the information she got from Marsh and from seeing Kelsier kill an Inquisitor. 

Yeah. Almost all the inquisitors have F-gold. Maybe the inquisitors Vin and Elend fought between WoA and HoA didn't have F-gold because Ruin didn't want to throw away more valuable pawns, but there is no reason for the inquisitors to have a reputation such as that other than them being able to heal from anything else.

[cometaryorbit]

13 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Well, but how can anything that hemalurgy does not be how the magic works?

Sorry, poorly phrased - I meant that "not having the normal harmful effects of a piece of metal in the body part" is probably a 'default' feature of Hemalurgy, even for non-constructs.

2 hours ago, Ookla the unintelligible said:

Inquisitors, at least most of them, had access to a healing spike:

F-gold is easily enough to make Vin and Elend see inquisitors as highly dangerous opponents. in addition, it makes sense that TLR would give them an f-gold spike, as he could easily justify not giving them access to A-gold, and thus keep them from compounding without raising suspicion.

Hmm, I wonder if the few who didn't get F-gold were the ones who were originally Mistborn? A-gold is sufficiently useless that no Inquisitor would get that spike except post-TLR, specifically for the purpose of Compounding.

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Most Inquisitors, but not all, definitely had Gold Feruchemy. It was not a post-Lord Ruler innovation:

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For example, all of the original Inquisitors were given a pewter spike, which—after first being pounded through the body of a Feruchemist—gave the Inquisitor the ability to store up healing power. (Though they couldn't do so as quickly as a real Feruchemist, as per the law of Hemalurgic decay.) This, obviously, is where the Inquisitors got their infamous ability to recover from wounds quickly, and was also why they needed to rest so much.

(From the HOA Ch. 36 Epigraph)

So per Sazed/Harmony, their need to rest is a Feruchemy thing not a feature of the Inquisitor "species".

 

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4 hours ago, StanLemon said:

I have a pet theory that there is more to Steel Inquisitors than just gaining a bunch of powers.

I think there must be since they are considered constructs, but what? Most of what they do seems to be explained via their existing powers; the ability to see via iron/steel-lines is theoretically possible for anyone with Iron/Steel Allomancy, the need to rest is due to Gold Feruchemy, etc.

Improved physical and Allomantic strength seems likely, yeah. It's hard to judge since we don't know what it "should" be as we never know both the original power(s) and spikes for any Inquisitor (Marsh started as a Seeker, but we don't know all his spikes; Vin and Elend list out spikes at the beginning of HOA, but not the specific power granted by all of them, and we don't know the starting power either). But the Iron/Steelsight being very quickly developed in Inquisitors, vs a theoretical thing for other Allomancers, does suggest some Allomantic strength and/or precision boost.

Not sure about lifespan, that could just be the effect of Pewter + Gold Allomancy. It does say "slightly" longer, so not necessarily beyond natural human maximum of 120 or so.

[Eldergod3]

The kandra have spikes that grant physical strength rather then one of the metallic arts, perhaps inquisitors possess similar spikes.