ctonicmenace Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Hello, people. My name is ctonicmenace, I like all things evil and am a huge fan of Sanderson. Would love to read a book from him from the point of view of the villain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Welcome! Which works have you read/enjoyed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctonicmenace Posted January 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 I have read most of his works. Haven't gotten to Legion or Rithmatist yet, but I will pick it up eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ctonicmenace said: Would love to read a book from him from the point of view of the villain. In a way, that's what Mistborn was (at least the first book). Edited January 27, 2020 by Invocation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Have you heard of the Dark One? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Invocation said: In a way, that's what Mistborn was (at least the first book). Hmm I don’t really think that Kelsier in book 1 counts as a villain. Welcome to the shard @ctonicmenace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karger Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 We have seen perspectives from Amaram, Moash, Sadeas, Taravangain, and Lin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, The Traveller said: Hmm I don’t really think that Kelsier in book 1 counts as a villain. I mean...he kind of does. He might be a protagonist, but he's not a good person, and if he wasn't overshadowed by the particular combination of TLR and a larger rebellion that made him into a better person in our view. He's really not a good person. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Invocation said: He’s really not a good person. Agreed but what I was trying to say is, we, as a reader, do not really realise that while we read TFE. This concern is raised by his crew members and we do begin to question his intentions, but by then he went and got himself killed. Which is both extremely selfless of him, I mean he got himself killed, but also selfish because he literally started a religion in his name! His sacrifice, which restored my faith in his goodness at the end of TFE was Undermined by him when he chose not to pass on, my faith in his goodness was shattered when I read Secret History. That is when i realised that ok, he is not exactly a good person either. Basically yes, he is one of those bad people who luckily for everyone were on the good side. Edited January 27, 2020 by The Traveller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, The Traveller said: Agreed but what I was trying to say is, we, as a reader, do not really realise that while we read TFE. You may not have, but his vibes were rancid the entirety of the first book for me, and the Square Executions just reinforced those vibes. SH came as no surprise to me, with no need to reevaluate his personality. Maybe it's a personal thing? I don't know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Invocation said: You may not have, but his vibes were rancid the entirety of the first book for me, and the Square Executions just reinforced those vibes. SH came as no surprise to me, with no need to reevaluate his personality. Maybe it's a personal thing? I don't know. I did not realise these things in TFE to be honest I still don’t see him as entirely evil. He is a bit whacky but he is also shown to be loyal towards his crew, trusts them and they trust him. He helped Vin, shared full information with her about her powers and gains her trust, becomes her mentor. He wants to help so many downtrodden skaa and TLR does come across as pure evil in TFE. I agree that he put Vin in danger but he seemed genuinely regretful of that too. I don’t know, I saw him as a brilliant crazy fellow kind of someone on the line there, but someone who is basically good because his goals are for the good. But I see where you are at with him as a villain after SH, so kuddos to you for seeing it from the beginning Edited January 27, 2020 by The Traveller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Karger said: We have seen perspectives from Amaram, Moash, Sadeas, Taravangain, and Lin. Stormlight does sort of count, doesn't it? But it's still more seeing from the perspectives of both sides of the conflict rather than a single credible villain as a point-of-view character On that note, Dragonsteel might count, when it comes out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aon Tia Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Honorless said: Dragonsteel might count, when it comes out Is he a villain or is he a good person? I am worried that I might not like the answers I will get when it does come out!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honorless Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 Huh, I'm completely against calling Kelsier 'evil', whatever tendencies he has are a product of his time and truly horrendous amount of trauma 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Hi! @ctonicmenace how interested would you be in an RP or a guild? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctonicmenace Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 29/01/2020 at 9:45 PM, Ark1002 said: Hi! @ctonicmenace how interested would you be in an RP or a guild? I would be most interested in both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctonicmenace Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 27/01/2020 at 0:03 AM, Honorless said: Have you heard of the Dark One? I have and I'm really excited. Brandon is such a talented writer and he explores his novels' topics so well. I'm with high expectations for this show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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