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  1. I was reading another thread and someone mentioned their theory on Nightblood and Ruin, it got me thinking about how Kelseir was Connected to Ruin in mistborn and I was wondering if Nightblood could also have some significant Connection? Obviously he'd have a very strong Connection to Endowment being made with 1000 breaths but with his command being destroy evil and the way he interprets that being extremely destructive, corrupting and consumeing the investiture itself, I think he'd have a very strong Connection to Ruin as well.
  2. So in Secret History, Keslier is unable to assume the powers of Preservation, even for a short time, because he is insufficiently Connected to Preservation. However, he is a full Mistborn with no hemalurgic spikes, and allomancy is of Preservation. Does this mean that an important way to forge Connection with a shard is by embodying its intent? That's the only thing I can think of that matches these facts. And if this is the case, can you forge Connection with a shard not present on your planet in this way?
  3. In Secret History we see that Kelsier could not connected to Preservation without aid. And when he did so he was still unable to wield it well. I assume that over time his mind would move more in line with Preservation and be more capable with its power. So with that in mind, how did Ati connect to the Ruin Shard to begin with. Hoid said that he was a kind and generous person (this doesn't sound like a person who was attuned to ruin). did he have help to Connect to its power. And if so did he have trouble controlling it until he was changed by the shard's intent.
  4. Recently on Reddit, somebody mentioned that Autonomy's investure doesn't empower sapient beings directly. 1. On Taldain, the sunlight contains investure that energizes microscopic lichen in the sand. Sandmastery is the manipulation of these organisms, but as far as I can tell, involves little to no flow of investure through ones self. 2. On Patji, Avien are formed when normal birds eat the grubs in the Eye of Patji. Notably, there is no effect if a human were to consume said grubs. I believe that this is intentional on the part of Autonomy, and I believe that I know the reason why. We know from Oathbringer that Autonomy is leaving sentient splinters of herself around the cosmere. From Secret History, we know that a share cannot be taken up without significant connection to it. As there is more Autonomy to go around, the likelihood that someone could eventually take up a splinter is higher. Autonomy tries to limit others connection to it, either as a precaution or simply due to her intent, by providing this buffer between her magic and the people of the cosmere.
  5. Was posting in another thread and was thinking about severing of Aes Sedai. We know this can be healed. Could a person with Stormlight heal this would if they knew the flows? Could the severing been seen in the spiritual realm? Would it be a loss of Connection to the One Power (Dar/din)? Could you create a medallion that would mimic the Connection to the One Power? Is that the same as a ter'angreal allowing a non channeler to channel?
  6. Simple enough. Do we know if you can spike the part of you that defines your birthplace? If yes, could you get a few of those and gain Selish magic?
  7. So in Mistborn: Secret History, there is this part where Kelsier finds the fortress that the Ire are in and sticks his hand inside one of the stone's used to make it up. Upon doing so, Kelsier gains visions of the place the stone is from; he began thinking that green plants were normal, and a few seconds after even began to understand the language used by the Ire. That last part is similar to someone using a universal duralumin metalmind filled with connection, tapping it in a foreign land so that others can understand them and vice versa. However, even days after that, Kelsier is still able to understand them and the effects don't seem to have worn off. Is it possible that Kelsier has gained some form of permanent connection to the Selish System, and so by extension to Devotion and Dominion? Furthermore, does that mean it is easier to gain connection to something as a cognitive shadow?
  8. I have been picturing the Spiritweb as a sort of graph where Connection is the edges and souls are the vertices. However, I don't understand how this would work with something like a tree. Would the tree itself have a soul and be Connected with, say, a bird living in it, or would the tree be represented by a subgraph where each leaf or branch has its own soul with an extremely strong Connection to other nearby souls within the same tree. This partially comes from the infamous stick scene in Words of Radiance, which demonstrates that a stick, which used to be part of a tree, has its own distinct soul.
  9. Introduction: What We Know About Southerner Medallions I'm sure some of you are already sick and tired of medallion-related speculations, so before I start giving my own take on this Scadrian mystery, let me first summarize what we already know. Let us clear our minds first and take a hard look at what was already revealed about these medallions, both in BoM and in various WoBs, because there are facts about these objects that many people forget or aren't even aware of. The Southerners create medallions using devices called Excisors. These excerpts from BoM show that any medallion theory cannot be complete without an Excisor theory, because it is through these devices that medallions are created. We should always keep Excisors in mind. In fact, while we already have a canon term for an Identity-less metalmind (what Marasi calls an unkeyed metalmind), I would like to propose this fan term: "excised metalmind" for a metalmind created with an Excisor, as opposed to the "unsealed metalmind" term I've been seeing that is frankly confusing. (Update: As @Oversleep pointed out, "unsealed metalmind" actually came from Brandon. So...oh well.) Creating medallions require Connector powers. This is a WoB from a recent signing in Germany. As you all know, Feruchemical duralumin stores Connection. Strangely enough, I have yet to see anyone post a medallion/Excisor theory involving Connection (everyone seems to believe VenDell in that it only involves Identity and Investiture), so I don't know what prompted that question. But suffice to say that thanks to this WoB, my medallion theory will involve Connection. The key to understanding medallions is that they are a way of fooling the magic system into thinking that you have the right sDNA. Take note, this is a totally different thing from what the Set's unkeyed metalminds do. The unkeyed goldmind that Wayne uses is a hack on the ownership requirement of Feruchemy. What Brandon is saying here is that medallions require a separate hack. Medallions can be used by non-Scadrians This is from the same Germany signing as above. This should put to rest any theory involving the need for Terris or Scadrian blood. Sorry, VenDell fans. The medallions interfere with each other. Unlike Hemalurgic spikes, one cannot obtain multiple powers by getting multiple medallions. Again, this is a problem that has gotten little attention from Sharder theorists. I intend to rectify that. The Southerners had to figure out two-powered medallions by themselves. This gives the following implications: - The Sovereign only taught them how to use Excisors to create single-powered medallions like the memory coin we've seen. - The method for creating a multi-powered medallion from multiple Metalborn is very difficult to scale. So, those are some things we know for sure about the medallions. Before I continue, here's one thing that I'm pretty certain of, even though we don't have direct confirmation of it: You cannot Feruchemically tap Investiture from the medallions unless they contain Nicrosil Feruchemy As @Moogle repeatedly points out in this thread, we don't ever see people being described as tapping the nicrosilminds in the medallions (with the exception of the Bands of Mourning), despite the numerous descriptions of them tapping or storing from the non-nicrosil part of the medallions. For example, in the Epilogue Wax only senses the Memory store of the copper part in the memory coin, not the Investiture store of the nicrosil part. Remember that aside from the Bands, each nicrosil ring in a medallion only contains one power. In the memory coin, the nicrosilmind contained Copper Feruchemy. In a Weight+Heat medallion the inner nicrosil ring contains Iron Feruchemy while the other nicrosil ring stores Brass Feruchemy. Without Nicrosil Feruchemy, one cannot Feruchemically tap Investiture from a nicrosilmind. Hence, while Nicrosil Feruchemy was obviously used to create Southern medallions, something else entirely must be responsible for their ability to grant powers. Now, allow me to go into deep speculation based on those facts. First I will discuss the different ways an object can be Connected to another object in the cosmere and how that relates to Feruchemy and Hemalurgy. Then I will discuss several theories about Hemalurgy that will form the backbone of my Excisor theory. Of course, I'll need to cover soul interference and the theory behind multi-powered medallions. Finally I will describe the steps of creating medallions, both single-powered ones and multi-powered ones. This will be a huge undertaking, so much that I've decided to divide everything into several posts. For those who don't have time, I will attempt a TL;DR: An unsealed metalmind can form a hybrid Being consisting of a person and itself, allowing the person to use the metalmind's Investiture without Feruchemically tapping it first. This property, shared with Hemalurgic spikes, exists because the unsealed metalmind contains a Hemalurgic charge, though this charge was taken without killing the donor. Finally, multi-powered medallions involve using the Connection of religious devotion to counteract soul interference between a medallion's nicrosilminds.
  10. So simple question, what kind of Connection does duralumin actually default to? The Ars Arcanum implies connection to other people, Bands of Mourning implies location.
  11. So, we know if you fill a Connection metalmind, you get some default Connection to the present location, and can temporarily speak the local language(s). But that leaves lots of filled metalminds, right? Could someone tap those minds to temporarily get the same connections as whoever filled them? Would translation work the other way? Or would they just get increased Connection to whatever they are already connected to? We know there are metalminds that kind of work both ways: gold just stores generic health, but copper stores specific memories. Does duralumin store specific Connection?
  12. I'll try to hide my spoilers, but the fact is, if you haven't read Emperor's Soul, just don't read this thread. And then read Emperor's sould, because it's a great book. When Allik Neverfar is using his connection Medalion to speak in the language of Elendel, he says that it will not work if one of the others wears it. He says that it has to be the person visiting. He says that "The visitor always has to wear the medallion, It's filled with Connection, yah? Bland Connection, to no place. But Connection can't just be connected to nothing, so when you tap it, it reaches out and connects you to the place where you are. Makes your soul think you were raised in this place instead, so your language changes" This sounds very much like Emperors Soul, The medallions are very much similar to the Sel magic.
  13. The Spiritual Realm has been described as a place with many lines, everyone made of these threads forming their Spiritweb. I have been trying, and I believe I have been successful, in identifying what kinds of lines exist. These lines, I believe, are Connection. 1) Person to person This is the most common type of Connection, connecting people by their friendships and relationships. This is what allows Shai to use Forgery on the Emperor's close associate, and have it act like it was the Emperor. Fairly mundane, as Connection goes. 2) Person to location This is a type of Connection formed by where someone is from or where they have spent a lot of time. This is likely what binds Shards to their planets, as well as the Connection implemented by (BoM spoilers) It is also by this Connection that Elantrians, Forgers, and probably Dakhor Monks are able to get their respective powers, location Connection being more important there. 3) Person to Shard This is probably one of the most important as far as Connection goes. This form of Connection is formed by adhering more to a Shard's Intent, which often leads to access to that Shard's magic system. Mistings and Mistborn want to be preserved in the moment they Snap, Knights gain more power as they adhere to their Honorable Ideals, Nalthians can become Returned if they die in selfless giving to others, such as saving someone's life or bringing criminals to justice, etc. It is also how Vin took in the mists, as well as the likely process by which Vessels take up a Shard. 4) Time lines Honor has a famous quote about the future being like a window, the farther you go the more pieces it breaks into. This is the most common thing seen when people see into the Spiritual Realm, as well as how Allomantic electrum and atium function. Feruchemy, shuttling attributes through time, likely uses a form of this. More importantly, it is the basis of gold Allomancy and Forgery. In Honor's window, the smaller and smaller pieces of window still exist, they never go away. They simply become Possibilities, What Could have Been. Gold Allomancers probably have the ability to see the two most likely alternate possibilities. Forgery likely functions by replacing what did happen with what could have, a broken stained-glass window being found by someone who lovingly restored it instead of a twisted glass frame that someone put in. Rewriting a history so that someone became a warrior or a beggar. If anyone has anything to add or dispute, I would gladly accept it.
  14. Did anyone else see a similarity between the Elantrian Connection Device that Kelsier uses to get Preservation's Power and the orbs that the Parshendi use to change forms? It describes the Elantrian device as So there was some sort of Connection stored up inside which temporarily makes the user/smasher more connected to Preservation. Doesn't that remind you of the way the parshendi would gain their new forms? I don't have the text in front of me but I seem to recall that when eshonai changes forms she smashes a sphere holding a spren during a highstorm. Using different spren results in different forms. Presumably this would mean that the spren provide the Connection to the form that the Parshendi wants. It says on coppermind that the parshendi can change form without a spren but the results are unpredictable. This also got me thinking about Kaladin's connection with Syl. The more he aligned his actions with her beliefs (for lack of a better word) the more she seemed to be brought into the physical realm. Is this connection at work again?
  15. Feruchemical duralumin allows someone to store their spiritual 'Connection'. Recently, Bands of Mourning and Secret History have provided some insight into the workings of Connection. This is collection of theories relating to Connection--what forms it takes and how it can be applied to different worlds/magic systems in the Cosmere. Despite their being different theories, they are all related to each other so I did not want to split them up. I've used spoiler tags to collapse the different theories so it is easier to read. There are also excerpts relating to Connection from Bands/Secret History, so don't read this at all if you haven't read those. Types of Connection Connection in Feruchemy: Duralumin Connection in Allomancy: Gold, Electrum, Atium, Malatium Connection in Forgery/Soulcasting Connection on Sel Connection for all Major Shardworlds and their Magic
  16. connection

    As we all now know, Connection plays a huge role in the Cognitive/spiritual realm. For example, Kelsier relates to spook more than vin and sazed since they are both "survivors" and are more alike. So looked at as similar. So a small fun theory/question: Who else in the cosmere series would be well connected? This is just a what if scenario. A pondering and character comparisons. Not realistic obviously. Some theories I had were: 1) Raoden and Kenton: Both went against their fathers, both went on to try to fix their predicament with holy determination. Raoden Elantris and Kenton the Diem. They are both smart intuitive and witty. Both secretive. Etc etc. 2) Shallan and Khriss: Both are lusting for knowledge. Both are inquisitive and annoying and ask question all the time while making witty remarks the whole time to hide their lonelyness. Both are very noble to find that their rank doesnt hold the same weight in other places. Shallan is also a mix of Lightsong with the witty and offensive remarks and Sarene with her butting into your buisness attitude. etc 3) Kaladin and Vasher: Both blunt loners whos best friend is nonhuman with a mind, like a spren or awakened sword. You even see them like each other in their encounters. They both get their lives more difficult when a woman enters their lives. Both great fighters. etc 4) Sarene is like Jasnah (with a small pinch of Siri): Both can fight and are learned and a take charge attitude. While like Siri, she plays a more feminine role sometimes to play the part and is a princess in another land to unite lands to make peace and ends up having to save it to save her own land. etc 5) Vivenna and Marasi: Both are very womanlike and shy in public and modest. Both doubt themselves to an extreme level but secretly love danger. Both are clever and get captured more often than daphne in scooby doo. etc (Vivenna is also a little like vin. Plus have the same letters) 6) Dalinar and Wax: Both are very moral and would do stupid things in the name of moralism. Both are fighters and feel that they are in the lead and that every bad occurrence is their fault.etc 7) Galladon and Baon: Both are sidekicks, part of the 17th shard and pessimistic. Two peas in a pod. Both have "aon" in their name. Baon is also like Adolin, who also has "aon" in his name.etc 8) Wayne and Lightsong: Both make no sense and mess with people with humor. Comic reliefs. etc 9) Elend and Sazed: Both are warriors and philosophers. etc 10) Hoid: Well just imagine Shallan as a guy, thats Hoid. There are many other comparisons you could make for characters but these just jump to mind. This is just a ranting theory about which characters are most similar. Any other characters come to mind about connection?
  17. This is probably more appropriate for the Cosmere Theories board, but because I am relying on Secret Histories information, let's keep it here for the time being. So, I have a thought and a question. * We know that taking up a Shard required Connection to the Shard. * We now can parse, from Khriss's comment about the Shattering, and a very recent WoB stating that Adonalsium was Shattered because the Holder was killed, that the actual moment of Shattering probably looked very close to the "inverse" of the scene of Sazed's Ascension. In the latter case, Sazed was alone and there were two power sources which he, having Connection to both, was able to take up. * In the former case, I suspect that a similar progression occured: after being killed, Adonalsium Holder dropped a body; 16 people should have been *in the direct proximity* of the drop, they would have done the same thing Sazed did: stepped in and attempted to take up the power. As each of them had Connection to a specific aspect/Intent of the Power, they took that Intent and became a Shard. This begs the question: if a Shardholder (like Leras or Ati) dies, drops a body and TWO PEOPLE attempt to take up the power, will the Shard be split into "SubShards" with different "SubIntents"? Or, in general, what would happen? As an example: can I train two people to be (a) very active and be ( passively-aggressively hateful, kill Odium (heh!), and have Person (a) become Wrath and Person ( become Passive Aggression. (these are all examples - I actually do not know what Odium is made out of)?
  18. I keep seeing this trailer for a show called "Powers" on YouTube. I'm sure that the show isn't remotely similar to Steelheart in its content, but every time I see this ad I'm consistently reminded of the Reckonerverse. Am I the only one who can forge the connection that unites the books and the Playstation trailer--the theme of normal humans rising as heroes in a world of demigods?
  19. “I Bind Things” A Realmatic Hypothesis of the Potential Ramifications of Connection in the Spiritual Realm Introduction: I was contemplating the following quote by Sylphrena in The Way of Kings, [1] when I was struck by an interesting disparity. Why would Syl state binding things as a distinguishing attribute of honorspren? The obvious answer, the one that I had previously assumed, is that she referenced the Adhesion-like ability she shares with windspren [2]. But the context of Syl’s declaration shows the fallacious nature of this assumption: Syl and Kaladin had both originally assumed that she was a windspren. Yet, when she first mentioned “binding things,” it was as she was discovering – indeed, telling Kaladin – that she was not, in fact, a windspren after all [3]. Thus, whatever Syl’s “binding things” attribute is, it is almost certainly not an attribute of common windspren. This line of thinking led me to the following conclusions: Potential Postulates of the Spiritual Realm The Spiritual Realm is a Realm of Ideals and Connections [4]. In my studying, I have come to believe that these Ideals are something akin to Kurkistan’s Forms [5]. (I had come up with a similar model independently, but Kurkistan explains it better.) I propose that Ideals are the Spiritual Realmatic aspects of everything. Much as everything has a “bead,” a mind, conscience, or whatever you prefer you call it, in the Cognitive Realm [6], everything has a similar aspect manifesting in the Spiritual Realm as an Ideal. I will also go one step farther and declare my second proposition: Interactions between beings and their Spiritual Ideals (whether natural or Investiture-related) creates Connections. Potential ramifications of these postulates are extensive, and I shall avoid wasting this opportunity by discussing minor, trivial possibilities. Certainly they lend merit to ideas such as Shaggai’s idea of Allomantic steel [7], and explains what, exactly, Feruchemical duralumin may store. Speculation on Shards and Shardworlds: (I will make a bit of a leap here; please understand that the spoiler section is much more speculative, pending further references.) Speculation Application to Investiture and the Laws of Magic The most important application of these statements of conjecture, I believe, is their potential applicability to Investiture and its interactions in current canon. And so I return to my analysis of Sylphrena’s statement. As Syl’s binding ability is likely not the Adhesion (for lack of a better term) demonstrated earlier in The Way of Kings, I present that Syl – and, by extension all Radiant spren – is binding Spiritual Ideals. As a spren begins to form the Nahel bond with an individual, the spren is using itself, a Splinter of Adonalsium, to create a Spiritual Connection between the Radiant candidate and the Ideal of the Radiant Order that the spren is associated with [11]. The candidate’s Spiritual Ideal must already be similar in nature to that of the order he/she will join for a spren to be able to start the bond. Example: (spoilered for length) Acting in accordance with the Radiant Oaths aligns the candidate’s Spiritual Ideal more closely to the Ideal of the order he/she will join, allowing the spren to gradually bond the individual closer to the Ideal. Speaking the Oaths is an essential part of the bonding process, markedly increasing the strength of the spren’s Connection. Much of the growth of the Connection is done over this series of five “steps.” Breaking Oaths and misaligning the candidate’s Ideal from that of the Radiant Order strains and eventually breaks the Connection, effectively killing the spren [13]. The Connection between the Spiritual aspect of the candidate and the Spiritual Ideal of the Radiant Order allows the individual’s Ideal to become more like the Ideal it is Connected to; in effect, this allows the candidate to gain the Surgebinding abilities. On Roshar, this system would have been begun initially by Honor. By making the ten Honorblades, the Spiritual interaction between Honor and Roshar created the ten Spiritual Ideals of the ten Orders. The Heralds then were able to bond to these “magic system Ideals” through the Honorblades to create their Connection; the Spren, imitating the Honorblades, began doing the same process with other individuals – Surgebinders [14]. While the other Cosmere “magic systems” clearly differ from this Spren-Binding Process, there are certain similarities that indicate that all seem to rely on Connection to function. This has led me to develop my Connective Law of Magic: All Investiture-Related Phenomena are facilitated through Connections between Ideals in the Spiritual Realm. Through simple observation, with the aid of this Connective Law of Magic, it is easy to see how similar Connections between the Spiritual aspects of individuals and “magic system” Ideals are formed. Scadrial: Much of Scadrial’s magic is based on genetics, due to the extra bit of Preservation in each individual [15]. This is talked of as a connection to Preservation, allowing access to his (or her, depending) “body” or power. It seems that the innate pieces of Ruin and Preservation create a Connection to the power of these Shards. Nalthis: A WOB from Kurkistan [11] indicates that each Breath carries with it the Ideal of being given power from Endowment. The ability to give Breaths allows Nalthians to pass on this Connection to another individual (Heightening) or an object (Awakening). Sel: Every type of Selian magic seems to require not only the mandatory Spiritual Connection to the planet, but also to a specific region. Each regional Connection then grants access to the Dor in its own way: AonDor for Arelon, Dakhor for Fjordell, ChayShan for Jindo, Forgery for MaiPon, etc. Conclusion To summarize, I presented a potential Connective Law of Magic: All Investiture-Related Phenomena (“magics”) are made possible by Realmatic Connections between Ideals (the Spiritual aspects of people and objects as per Realmatic Theory) in the Spiritual Realm. This concept was based off of two postulates about the nature of Ideals: First, that Ideals are, as stated above, Realmatic Spiritual aspects; and second, that interactions between beings and Ideals create Connection. I hope my thoughts are intriguing, or, at the least, thought-provoking. Thank you for taking the trouble to read out my ideas! (Note: This is a rough draft; I still have some work that I need to do. I just think that it is time to begin discussion so I can progress my ideas. Thank you.) Sources