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There's a duty of care that I feel like I must maintain, that is my calling to life. There are a few facets to this: 

1. There is a duty to protect others from preventable harm, to a reasonable degree;

2. There is a duty to ensure respect to spaces I occupy;

3. There is a duty to listen to others, and avoid doing harm to others;

These are very simple ideals, but yet they cause me to struggle internally.

It is incredibly difficult to protect everyone from preventable harm- for example, I do try to reach out to people who are really struggling (even if I think it could be just for attention). But it also it leaves me feeling awful when someone is left hurt and I could've prevented it. It makes me feel worthless, like I don't deserve a place in the world because of my failure. While it's not always my fault, it always hurts me so much. 

It is incredibly difficult to ensure respect to every space- people are very indirect about signaling, so it can be hard to tell if I'm overstepping a line or if I'm chasing someone away or something. It is sometimes incredibly hard to tell if I'm bullying a person into leaving or if I'm bettering the space I'm in. It also can be difficult to tell if I'm disrespecting the space by not leaving; I struggle to acknowledge when a space is bettered by my absence. So I do worry a lot about what impact I have on the people and the space itself. 

Not hurting others is similar- it is hard to tell if I am causing others discomfort and/or if I should take action to stop that. I make an effort to try and not put anyone down or hurt anyone, which does sometimes involve not taking sides or being really passive, but it helps me feel good about my impact on the world, I guess. But people are not always straightforward with what they mean.

When I do follow my ideals and I think I do or whatever it makes me feel like I'm actually doing good in the world. When I don't, it makes me sad. When I think I can't ever fulfill these ideals, I start to consider disappearing from the world. 

these ideals control my life and I can't really do anything about them. Maybe that's a good thing. But sometimes it's too much.

These ideals promote giving up yourself in the name of others, which is good in my eyes, (I don't expect other people to do the same, they're not really my problem) but it is taxing as you would expect. It means I have little priority for myself; it means I get less enjoyment out of doing things for myself, and it means that I can't really... live life properly. Which is totally fine, because I'm content with dedicating myself to my ideals, it's just that I wonder what it would be like to... not have to worry.

what if I didn't dedicate myself to my ideals and actually started caring about myself? What if I stopped seeing my issues as limitations and instead as just quirks? What if I prioritized myself in life? Well, the answer to that is that I would be letting others down. And I can't do that. I can't be selfish and just ignore my duty. 

Quite the strange paradox, don't you think?

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Usseewa

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I relate to this a bit and I definitely see it in you. It definitely sounds/is difficult. You once said something about not being able to be able to help everyone or be everyone's therapist cuz it's such a strain on you.

This (cognitive dissonance?, maybe, if it matters/is helpful) makes it hard cuz then you can feel bad about caring for yourself or as you said maybe it leaves you without purpose? If I'm understanding right.

It might help to find a balance and help yourself and also others. Try finding something that gives you meaning when you're not helping others.

Also, if you feel so strongly about this and enjoy or get purpose from helping others, you can always consider that as a career/uni path. Social work, perhaps. I've considered/am considering it. Idk if I'd be the best person, but idk.

Sometimes it can also be better for both you and the other person to step away. It could be... what's the term... reinforcing? If they receive love/care/support after engaging in a harmful behavior or like while it's an ongoing struggle, or so I've heard and probably felt. I know can be hard to step away or feel like you're abandoning someone but sometimes it can be beneficial, even if only for you. Not always or something probably. Insert caveat...

It can also be really hard not knowing if you're helping or not helping or even being harmful etc., and I get that.

Also part of indirect communication could be (not always of course, and tbh idk but it can be for me) the other person going through similar struggles of thought as you and not wanting to lead you to feel guilty, or feeling like they are selfish, and idk then it can just cycle back and forth and I don't know if this is a digression or not

Aeoryi

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4 hours ago, Usseewa said:

Also, if you feel so strongly about this and enjoy or get purpose from helping others, you can always consider that as a career/uni path. Social work, perhaps. I've considered/am considering it. Idk if I'd be the best person, but idk.

Tbh it's definitely something I should consider I'm just not quite sure if I'm quite cut out for it yet. It's a much more difficult task than just being on the shard. It would be something I would genuinely enjoy, too.

 

4 hours ago, Usseewa said:

Sometimes it can also be better for both you and the other person to step away. It could be... what's the term... reinforcing? If they receive love/care/support after engaging in a harmful behavior or like while it's an ongoing struggle, or so I've heard and probably felt. I know can be hard to step away or feel like you're abandoning someone but sometimes it can be beneficial, even if only for you. Not always or something probably. Insert caveat...

That's true. I need better strategies for dealing with that.

4 hours ago, Usseewa said:

relate to this a bit and I definitely see it in you. It definitely sounds/is difficult. You once said something about not being able to be able to help everyone or be everyone's therapist cuz it's such a strain on you.

I do try to recognize when I have extended myself too far but unfortunately I feel like I have nothing to do when I'm not helping others

Usseewa

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3 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

Tbh it's definitely something I should consider I'm just not quite sure if I'm quite cut out for it yet. It's a much more difficult task than just being on the shard. It would be something I would genuinely enjoy, too.

Well you can always try it and see. Also, you probably aren't cut out for it *now,* but could be once u do it stuff yk idk ye

3 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

I do try to recognize when I have extended myself too far but unfortunately I feel like I have nothing to do when I'm not helping others

what about like interests or just chatting.. tho i guess chatting can lead to issues depending sormtiems but idk

Aeoryi

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21 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

Well you can always try it and see. Also, you probably aren't cut out for it *now,* but could be once u do it stuff yk idk ye

That's a good point, I mean my experience working with others has really been amazing in the past but also super tiring

21 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

what about like interests or just chatting.. tho i guess chatting can lead to issues depending sormtiems but idk

I've withdrawn from a lot of my interests, don't really have anyone to talk to. sorta left everyone behind when I started to transition. Told my friends I appreciated them being around and never talked to them again.

Usseewa

Posted (edited)

2 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

That's a good point, I mean my experience working with others has really been amazing in the past but also super tiring

I've withdrawn from a lot of my interests, don't really have anyone to talk to. sorta left everyone behind when I started to transition. Told my friends I appreciated them being around and never talked to them again.

ye, well maybe u js needs work on breaks or smt idk ...

heh... yeah...

sorry i just . idk about verde idk what to think and uhh yeah you saw my post and what he said and storm idk..

and now Chaos is in PMs

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Aeoryi

Posted

Just now, Usseewa said:

ye, well maybe u js needs work on breaks or smt idk ...

heh... yeah...

sorry i just . idk about verde idk what to think and uhh yeah you saw my post and what he said and storm idk..

mmm I take enough breaks already

I will reach out about the verde stuff tomorrow or later tonight I don't have the capacity right now

Usseewa

Posted (edited)

6 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

mmm I take enough breaks already

I will reach out about the verde stuff tomorrow or later tonight I don't have the capacity right now

do u still get tired/too much'd, or do u think ur handlin it well?

it kidna idk i just dont know what to say and i was so hapy for some resason before and then that came and im still happy i think kinda but like not right mood isk and idk and yes and ...idk

 

idk what im talking about atp lololhehehhehhehe

 

ur so seriousss and collecrsd and profesional

 

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ado i knew i shouldntve beought attention to it

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why did i post that damnit damnit damnit i logged off of this place

verde edited it to say that..

 

damnit should i just hide my posts

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Aeoryi

Posted

31 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

do u still get tired/too much'd, or do u think ur handlin it well?

I always feel tired even with a full night's of sleep

35 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

ur so seriousss and collecrsd and profesional

eh sometimes my inexperience shows. I lack authority

 

35 minutes ago, Usseewa said:

ado i knew i shouldntve beought attention to it

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why did i post that damnit damnit damnit i logged off of this place

verde edited it to say that..

 

damnit should i just hide my posts

Noooo 

Usseewa

Posted

10 hours ago, Aeoryi said:

I always feel tired even with a full night's of sleep

eh sometimes my inexperience shows. I lack authority

 

Noooo 

same ..

yeah same and i hate it cuz i feel like i cant say anything without authority

 

sigh

i felt veryvery awful last night so i did a crapton of organizing till like past midnitght or smthand that distracted me successfully so yay

Aeoryi

Posted

9 hours ago, Usseewa said:

same ..

yeah same and i hate it cuz i feel like i cant say anything without authority

 

sigh

i felt veryvery awful last night so i did a crapton of organizing till like past midnitght or smthand that distracted me successfully so yay

I had nightmares again

I need to get more sleep

Usseewa

Posted

8 minutes ago, Aeoryi said:

I had nightmares again

I need to get more sleep

Yeh..

Sorry to herre

Aeoryi

Posted

3 hours ago, Usseewa said:

Yeh..

Sorry to herre

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