MistbornAlpaca he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Has anyone ever noticed that Rosharan years are 500 days? I'm sure you have, so that brings up the question, how long do these storming people live? Kaladin is somewhere around 20 in TWoK and WoR. In earth years, that's approximately 27.4 years. What does this mean? Are days shorter on Roshar, compensating for the extra days? Or do people live much longer? If the life expectancy on Roshar is around what it is on earth, (let's say 80 years) Rosharan people would live to be 109.6 years old. That's an extra 30 years or life! Any ideas? 1
Shqueeves Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 Days are shorter in Roshar, though I'm not entirely sure by how much. Relative to Roshar, kaladin is ~20 years old and relative to us/Yolen, he is closer to ~22 1
MistbornAlpaca he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Author Posted October 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, Shqueeves said: Days are shorter in Roshar, though I'm not entirely sure by how much. Relative to Roshar, kaladin is ~20 years old and relative to us/Yolen, he is closer to ~22 If I've done my calculations right, a day on Roshar must be about 19.3 hours long. Thanks, Shqueeves!
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) From the Coppermind: "Although the Rosharan year is 500 days long, these days are shorter than on Earth and a Rosharan year is equivalent to 1.1 Earth years.[5][6]" Edit: @MasterJack, @Shqueeves tagging you in case you are not following the post. Edited October 31, 2017 by CaptainRyan
MistbornAlpaca he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Author Posted October 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, CaptainRyan said: From the Coppermind: "Although the Rosharan year is 500 days long, these days are shorter than on Earth and a Rosharan year is equivalent to 1.1 Earth years.[5][6]" 1 Yep, the math holds up, a Rosharan day is 19.3 hours. That still leaves another question, how long do you think the life expectancy on Roshar is?
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, MasterJack said: That still leaves another question, how long do you think the life expectancy on Roshar is? For a regular person? I'd guess it is roughly the same as current earth humans in good conditions ~ 70-80 earth years or 64 - 73 Rosharan years. The excessive Stormlight (investiture) on Roshar helps make the people disease resistant, they have a knowledge of hygiene and, for their time, advanced medicine/surgical practices thanks to the teachings of the Heralds. While it might be slightly lower due to "harsher" conditions than us modern 1st world folk are used to I doubt it would be significantly lower. 1
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, MasterJack said: That still leaves another question, how long do you think the life expectancy on Roshar is? Pretty short, considering that the apocalypse has arrived. 7
CaptainRyan he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 58 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said: Pretty short, considering that the apocalypse has arrived. Stop showing up in all the threads making great comments; it's hell on my up-vote quota.
Nathrangking he/him Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Toaster Retribution said: Pretty short, considering that the apocalypse has arrived. Well those who are the strongest will survive much longer. That and you know the human glowsticks who will go poof and cure any disease.
Shqueeves Posted October 31, 2017 Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Toaster Retribution said: Pretty short, considering that the apocalypse has arrived. But these are the people who live through ultra-hurricanes practically every week. The apocalypse probably won't increase the death toll until later
17th Splinter he/him Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) The Roshar year is 1.1 earth years, 500 Roshar days, and roughly 400 earth days The Roshar day is 20 Roshar hours, and roughly 19 earth hours The Roshar hour is roughly 58 earth minutes We have WoB that hours are slightly shorter and the math checks out the rest Edited November 1, 2017 by 17th Splinter
Vortaan he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 Isn't Roshar supposed to have slightly lower gravity than Earth too? Not sure how that affects lifespans but it probably does one way or the other.
Calderis he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Vortaan said: Isn't Roshar supposed to have slightly lower gravity than Earth too? Not sure how that affects lifespans but it probably does one way or the other. Lower gravity (.7g), and a higher oxygen content to the atmosphere.
thejopen27 he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Vortaan said: Isn't Roshar supposed to have slightly lower gravity than Earth too? Not sure how that affects lifespans but it probably does one way or the other. I think it would help, I'm no doctor, but less stress on the feet,knees, hips, and back combined with high oxygen seems like it would be healthier.
Gigalemesh he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 Yeah I'm pretty sure higher oxygen content would definitely help. Obviously though it's hard to say how humanity will have changed due the different conditions (especially if any shards decided to tweak things).
Yata he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 Mainly the Roshar's lifespan would be improved by the healtier envirorment thanks to the Stormlight. I am not sure the lower gravity will affect them too much as they are already designed to live with that gravity
Steeldancer he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 Peter answered this yesterday, they live a little longer then us.
Walin he/him Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I was thinking that more oxygen and less gravity would contribute to a longer life since they don’t have to do as much work (kilogram-meters; what’s the mass-length measure on Roshar?) and thus cells don’t do as much stuff, thus not needing to divide as much, thus maintaining longer telomere length. Also, ambient Investiture that usually decreases illness (per a WOB about the Purelake plague) probably heals a tiny little too, decreasing need for cellular division to heal abrasions. Anyone who lives on Roshar will live longer than on other planets, but I think the Rosharan spiritweb contributes about 50% of the longer living. So Scadrians would have to burn pewter a few minutes once every day (while also living on Roshar) to get the same life extension. Or maybe I’m going about this all wrong, and native Rosharans have pDNA with longer telomeres than the average Cosmere humanoid.
thejopen27 he/him Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 13 hours ago, Yata said: Mainly the Roshar's lifespan would be improved by the healtier envirorment thanks to the Stormlight. I am not sure the lower gravity will affect them too much as they are already designed to live with that gravity Normal people don't have access to Stormlight. Do you mean the added benefits of fabrials? A Radiant would possibly live much longer, but a normal person, without access to Stormlight, in an era when there were no Truthwatchers or Edgedancers, or regrowth fabrials, would live a bit longer from higher oxygen and less gravity.
Yata he/him Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 3 hours ago, thejopen27 said: Normal people don't have access to Stormlight. Do you mean the added benefits of fabrials? A Radiant would possibly live much longer, but a normal person, without access to Stormlight, in an era when there were no Truthwatchers or Edgedancers, or regrowth fabrials, would live a bit longer from higher oxygen and less gravity. No I means directly the Stormlight. We don't know exactly how, but It seems everyone assimilate tiny bit of Stormlight during their Life. By the way, also the plants absorb Stormlight so the people usually eat food Influenced by Investiture rather than assimilate themself
Calderis he/him Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) The higher oxygen content is actually detrimental to an extent. Our bodies need oxygen to function, and higher oxygen levels, especially when combined with the lower gravity, would make feats of strength and physical exertion much easier. Aging though, is a result of stress on the cells, and oxidation. The higher oxygen content would speed cell oxidation and accelerate aging. I have to agree with Yata, and think that ambient investiture is playing a role. Edited November 3, 2017 by Calderis
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