Krenn

Actually, I believe Lift may have been on record as not knowing or believing that, but it happened to her anyway. Also, I think one of the quotes in your last reply may have gotten Garbled? I don't see any text in it. One of the interesting questions, to me, is whether not a knight radiant could hypothetically graft an 'extra' arm, or 'extra' finger, onto their body, if they just picked one up from a fresh cadaver, made two cuts, and then pressed it against their body and tried to heal. I'm... not absolutely certain that attempting that 'wouldn't' work. You might not be able to feel the third arm, or control it, and it might gradually fall off as your body slowly 'healed' back to the 'correct' configuration, and I need to do a lot more research.... but I'm inclined to think that maybe, just maybe, as long as you were actively burning power and thinking that you were trying to attach a third arm to your body.... you might be able to at least prevent the third arm from rotting, and to keep your own blood flowing through it. temporarily. For a few minutes. While you concentrated. Kind of like giving the third arm the blood-based equivalent of CPR or an emergency blood transfusion. In fact, that's really interesting question... What happens if you try to perform CPR or give a direct blood transfusion to someone else, while burning your own stormlight? but anyway, I suspect that the same logic applies to transplanting a fetus... as long as she actively concentrates, and maybe uses an external healing surge to help, I think a female knight radiant might be able to make the transplant work for a few minutes. IF she were transplanting a third arm, then the moment she stopped concentrating, it would probably start to fall off, because that's obviously not supposed to be there.... But a transplanted fetus? IF the fetus 'thought' it was supposed to be attached to a womb, but didn't know or care which womb, and if the female knight radiant didn't have any particular strong objection to the fetus being there, and she figured that a fetus being inside a womb at least made basic sense..... I can't prove it, obviously, but it does seem at least conceivable that the fetus might be able to stay there, and remain healthy, until such time as the surrogate knight radiant specifically and intentionally decided that it shouldn't be there. edit: Oh man, do you know what would be a really interesting question? Hypothetically, if someone had a prosthetic wooden or metal arm prior to becoming a knight radiant, which they honestly considered to be part of who they were.... Could they 'heal' their own prosthetic when it took damage? while still keeping it 'as' a prosthetic?

On the other hand, Retribution probably has a LOT of power to alter the ecosystem in reasonable ways, so he can probably mitigate most of the damage. the interesting question is what that will mean for regions not under his control...

I bet you could just give a big enough pile of Warlight to a Windrunner, and either he can open a gate right there, or he can fly back to Urithiru one time to jumpstart Urithiru if needed. How long is the flight between those two locations, anyway? Worst case scenario, every time his spheres reach half-capacity, he cross-loads them so that half his spheres are at full-charge and half are at zero, so he can multi-stage himself that way.

Why wouldn't it be? it was seen being stored in a Gemstone at the time of it's creation, right? and Voidlight, Stormlight, and Anti-Light can all be stored in gems long-term, why shouldn't WarLight be the same? I mean, they might need to use the Oathgates to ship it fast enough, but that doesn't seem so bad.

I'm inclined to guess that even if only the Singers on the Shattered Plains get Warlight, that they can probably still sell Warlight to everyone else. Very likely, anyone intelligent who prays to Retribution can have warlight, and anyone intelligent who refused to pray can just buy it. wild plants and Animals probably get it for free, or maybe it depends on who their 'owner' is.

Why not? If what Vorin recieves from Retribution is Warlight, and can be used interchangeably as either Stormlight or Voidlight, then Vorin just became the currency center of the world. For 1 part per 1000 of your gems each night, Vorin's people will lay out the other 999 gems for you, pray for you, and return those gems filled with Warlight to you. Retribution didn't place any limits on how many gems Vorin could recharge each night, or what needed to happen to the gems afterwards. He probably even set her up like that on purpose. Use warlight to re-activate the oathgates, and ship warlight-infused gems everywhere, including into 'good-aligned' territory. It will be a wonderful act of cognitive dissonance for the good guys.

Reading through the various forum arguments about how stormlight self-healing does or doesn't work, and I didn't find MUCH about the topic, but at least one person did propose that stormlight 'might' be acting as a natural abortifacient if you didn't 'believe' that your true self 'was or should be' pregnant. The obvious counter-argument being advanced was that doesn't work with menstrual periods, so why should it work with pregnancy? On that topic, I have a proposed related question: Can you use stormlight to 'heal' a problem you can't see, and don't know you have, aren't specifically thinking about, and aren't intentionally trying to heal? Like, let's see you're one of the rare people who was born with 3 kidneys. But you don't KNOW that you were born with 3 kidneys. In fact, you may not even have a clear understanding of what a kidney actually is, or that most people have 2 of them. And then you become a knight radiant, and infuse your body with a great deal of stormlight. Do you automatically 'self-heal' into having 2 kidneys? I'm inclined to say that the answer is no, you don't. In order to 'remove' the third kidney, you would have to read a medical journal, examine some cadavers, obtain a clear understanding of what a kidney is and why people only have two of them, then either scan yourself non-invasively or have your abdomen cut open while you looked through the hole with a mirror.... And then you would have to see the kidney, realize it wasn't supposed to be there, and intentionally burn stormlight to make it go away. or even have someone physically cut out the kidney and remove it, and then you would need to intentionally heal the cut in such a way as to not produce a replacement 3rd kidney. I suspect that pregnancy, or menstrual cycles, work the same way... that you can't use stormlight to start or stop those processes unless you know exactly what you're doing to your own body, and honestly and specifically believe that your body shouldn't be in whatever it's 'current' state is, but should instead be in some other state. So, if you don't know that you are pregnant, you can't use stormlight to stop being pregnant. Unless you accidently take a cannonball to the abdomen, in which case, yeah, it's possible that when you replace your entire abdomen, it might go back to it's "last known good" state, which might not include pregnancy. Maybe. On the other hand... If a highly skilled female knight radiant, with healing surges, and OB/GYN training, who knows EXACTLY what's she doing and why she's doing it.... If she WANTED to get pregnant, it's possible she could just have sex with her husband, and then... force the fertilization event(s) to happen. Possibly producing octuplets, even. OR she could do the reverse, and if she knew exactly what she was trying to accomplish, maybe she could prevent fertilization. But I don't think she can do it accidently or without any awareness at all. A related test on that subject would be... do male knight radiants who are filled with stormlight still need to shave? if they're not specifically thinking about NOT growing a beard... does the beard keep growing, even though they still intend to shave it off every morning? Another example is mental illness... I seem to remember an argument that Kaladin might possibly be getting 'temporary' depression cures when he's actively filled with stormlight... but his brain has never permanently re-ordered itself so that depression is no longer a thing his non-stormlight-infused brain suffers from anymore. Either because stormlight can't do that, or because Kaladin doesn't know that it's possible to do that, or where to even start with the brain surgery if it were possible.

interesting... see, I would think that "I want to be pregnant" and "my oath requires me to protect my unborn niece" would be sufficient to transplant a fetus.... that seems like 'enough' perception of yourself. Especially if you're an OB/GYN who 'understands' how your own womb works, so 'attaching' something to it doesn't seem too odd.... Let me know when you have more time for longer answers, I'd love to hear more of what you're thinking. Edit: Also, I'd forgotten that Shardblades technically only 'paralyze' living non-vital flesh, instead of 'cutting' it. so I guess we'd need a normal scalpel instead of a RadiantBlade. Or maybe if you used both in parallel, side-by-side? The shard-scalpel kills the pain receptors, and then the real-scalpel cuts the flesh?

So, I'm only asking this question in a general sense, and the general answer might not even apply to any given specific situation which may or may not exist.... I'm not suggesting anything about any specific character, here. But, in terms of how Stormlight and Towerlight actually work, and how Knight Radiant healing of themselves or others works.... Do we know anything about how pregnancy and obstetrics hypothetically works for female Knight Radiants with a reliable source of stormlight/towerlight ? Riffing on that topic, I can think of the following sub-questions just off the top of my head: Like, can you do C-sections with shardblades? If you're already full of stormlight, is it even possible to HAVE an obstetrics emergency which would require a C-section, or does Stormlight guarantee a smooth and easy delivery? Can stormlight be used to induce labor deliberately? Can the fetus be healed with stormlight just as easily as the rest of the mother's body can be? Does nursing a newborn infant while filled with stormlight have any odd side effects? Do pregnant mothers actually 'need' to eat food in order to grow an 8+ lb baby, or could they survive for the entire pregnancy just on stormlight/towerlight? What if you tried to speed the pregnancy UP? If you had the correct surges applied at the correct time, could you get pregnant with octuplets, or speed an entire pregnancy up to finish in only a couple of days? Hypothetically, if you, say, received an involuntary c-section from being struck with a ballista during combat, would the fetus grow back if you were filled with enough stormlight at the time? What if you accidently/deliberately cut out a five-month premie fetus , grew a replacement fetus really fast, and then put the original fetus BACK IN? Would that create twins? Was it ever established whether/how-much stormlight acts as a painkiller, including for 'natural' pain, like muscle exhaustion, touching a hot surface, or any aspect of pregnancy and childbirth? And then of course we get to all those questions if a Knight Radiant healer is treating a pregnant patient who ISN'T herself also a knight radiant... And thinking about that, now I'm also wondering about neat tricks involving surrogacy... Like what if a female knight radiant healer specializing in Obstetrics has a pregnant patient in front of her, where the mother JUST died, but the fetus isn't dead YET? Hypothetically, could she set her own shardblade to be a scalpel, and then just.. cut both their wombs open, and simply move the fetus into herself, even though she wasn't herself previously pregnant? Could she 'heal' herself by just... attaching a placenta that wasn't there a minute ago?Would it also be an option to just heal the dead mother into a vegetative state to protect the pregnancy? I have... so many questions. Do we have previously established rules that cover ANY of this? The Coppermind seems to suggest that healing dead people back to a vegetative state is an option, at least... for those orders with the Surge of Progression, which most don't have. Edit: It looks like this thread answers SOME of the questions.... Word of Author is that in-utero healing is possible, at least...

What I'm trying to figure out is how much of what Sophie said about herself is the truth, and in what sense was it true? by my count, we have roughly 3 female characters in this story. an unnamed, maximally incompatible female chosen from a list. let's call her 'Eve' Kai's arch nemesis, Melhi, who was deeply offended at the suggestion that she might be a puppet of the wode. Sophie, Melhi's telepresence robot, who claimed to be a successful world president elected on the basis of woman's lib, and who hated the wode. somehow, i can't shake the suspicion that almost everything Sophia said was either the truth about Melhi, or else the truth about Eve. and it's almost possible that Sophia, Melhi, AND Eve are all the SAME PERSON. The most incompatible person on the list might have been Melhi, but Melhi wasn't her real name, Eve was, so Kai didn't recgonize it on the list. Then Sophia tells a true but edited version of Melhi/Eves past, and finally, Melhi takes revenge. The biggest problem i have with getting all this to fit together is what was Melhi doing in the border states when she first met kai? was she always planning to implement a scorched earth policy as part of her anti-wode campaign? was she hoping to arrange a peaceful settlement, but overreacted when kai insulted her? or am i overthinking this, and everything Sophia said was a complete fiction?

Here's an interesting question: Can heralds form a Nahel bond with spren, and become BOTH knights radiant AND heralds? Taln could be a perfect candidate for that.

speaking of Renarin's seizures, here's an interesting question: are we certain that Renarin's seizures have a convention medical cause behind then? Shallan has apparently had her spren all her life. What if Renarin has too? is it possible that his seizures are actually an inefficient form of foretelling the future? something he will have more control over as he progresses in the oaths?

This. That was the single greatest point in the Book.

Or maybe having ten heralds split the torture 10 ways, and the heralds had a procedure for when to accept that a desolation was inevitable, and to stop fighting it and re-appear? say, anytime 3 heralds have broken, the desolation is inevitable?

remember to account for wildcard "h" letters, as well.

yes, that would be very helpful.

what program are you using to read those files? i can't get my current code breaking software to read those as valid files. simplest solution would be for me to just use the same software you do.

I'm starting to think along these lines.... important words in this world are often palindromes. we suspect this coded message is very important. therefore, there is a good chance that at least one word in this message will be a palindrome. we also know that as far as the Alethi are concerned, the letter *h* is a wildcard letter, and can be used as a variable to make palindrome spelling work. so, here's the challenge: find the largest combinations in the code which could be spelling out a palindrome. for example, 151-2-10-10-11-14-10-2-151 could be a palindrome, if either 10 or 14 represented an 'h'.

if it IS some type of substitution cipher, this is the best program i've found so far for cracking substition ciphers. but no results so far, and it only works with single-case alphabets. http://www.secretcodebreaker.com/scbsolvr.html

don't expect it to be solved anytime soon. without additional clues from the author, we're basically just spinning in circles. every method that's been tried so far produces gibberish text, and we can't even figure out which portions of the book are supposed to be relevant to solving this.

I don't know if this means anything or not... looking at the epigraphs from the in-world book, "words of radiance", i tried to insert 'ch', for 'chapter', every time i found a sequence of numbers in the code which matched with a chapter number. there were a LOT of matches, although i couldn't find a good way to make the epigraph page numbers work as well. apologies for how difficult this to read. my original version had line breaks befoer each 'ch', but i didn't want this post to be hundreds of lines long. ch11 *18 ch2 ch5 *10 ch11 ch12 ch7 ch12 *491 ch5 ch12 *1010 ch11 *1410 ch21 ch5 ch11 ch7 ch11 ch2 *10 ch11 ch12 ch17 ch13 *44 ch8 *3 ch11 *10 ch7 *1 ch5 *14 ch2 ch5 *41434109 ch16 *14914934 ch12 ch12 ch2 ch5 *41010 ch12 ch5 ch12 ch7 *101 ch5 *1910 ch11 ch12 *34 ch12 ch5 ch5 ch11 ch5 ch2 ch5 ch12 *1 ch5 ch7 ch5 ch5 ch11 ch12 *3410 ch11 ch12 *91 ch5 ch12 *1061 ch5 *34 i couldn't find a good way to make the epigraph page numbers work as well, this is the best i got: ch11 *18 ch2 ch5 *10 ch11 ch12 ch7 pg1 ch2 pg4 *91 ch5 ch12 *1010 ch11 *1410 ch21 ch5 ch11 ch7 ch11 ch2 *10 ch11 ch12 ch17 ch13 *44 ch8 *3 ch11 *1071 ch5 *14 ch2 ch5 *41434109 ch16 pg14 *914934 ch12 pg12 ch2 ch5 *41010 ch12 ch5 ch12 *7101 ch5 *1910 ch11 ch12 *34 ch12 ch5 ch5 ch11 ch5 ch2 ch5 ch12 *1 ch5 *7 ch5 ch5 ch11 ch12 *3410 ch11 ch12 *91 ch5 ch12 *10 ch6 *1 ch5 *34 however, I'm not all certain that this meany anything... it's purely pattern searching at the moment.

is there any way the code could be hidden in the epigraphs from the in-world book, 'Words of radiance' ? we have chapter and page numbers for all those epigraphs...

hmmm... there are no '0s' in the code, except for '10'. you argument that these are single digits, 1-10, make sense. that would make the code: 1-1 1-8 2-5 10-1 1-1 2-7 1-2 4-9 1-5 1-2 10-1 1-1 1-4 10-2 1-5 1-1 7-1 1-2 10-1 1-1 2-1 7-1 3-4 4-8 8-3 1-1 10-7 1-5 1-4 2-5 4-1 4-3 4-10 9-1 6-1 4-9 1-4 9-3 4-1 2-1 2-2 5-4 10-10 1-2 5-1 2-7 10-1 5-1 9-10 1-1 1-2 3-4 1-2 5-5 1-1 5-2 5-1 2-1 5-7 5-5 1-1 1-2 3-4 10-1 1-1 2-9 1-5 1-2 10-6 1-5 3-4 with 32 unique pair combinations.... that's possible... or, if we read 10-1 as "11" and 10-10-1 as "21", the highest number in the list would be 21... 1 1 1 8 2 5 11 1 1 2 7 1 2 4 9 1 5 1 2 21 1 1 4 12 1 5 1 1 7 1 1 2 11 1 1 2 1 7 1 3 4 4 8 3 1 1 17 1 5 1 4 2 5 4 1 4 3 4 19 1 6 1 4 9 1 4 9 3 4 1 2 1 2 2 5 4 21 2 5 1 2 7 11 5 1 9 11 1 1 2 3 4 1 2 5 5 1 1 5 2 5 1 2 1 5 7 5 5 1 1 1 2 3 4 11 1 1 2 9 1 5 1 2 16 1 5 3 4 not sure how to tell the diference between 10-1 as "11" vs "10, 1" though.

no need to hoard gems. their stormlight is only valuable for very rare and specific purposes. Shallan's pretty much covered the worst case scenario already. In Shallan's Scenario: She needed to move an entire army. Using stored stormlight when there had been no recent high storms to replenish stormlight, nor were future high storms expected anytime soon. right there, that was probably the highest demand and least supply of stormlight-infused gems she's ever likely to face, and she solved it by stripping the stormlight out of the gems people were already carrying. Stormlit gems were rationed as flashlights after they arrived, but the next highstorm will recover the market. in the future, the market will be a lot more stable. persons needing to travel by stormlight platform will bring their own lit gems, and arrive at their destination with unlit gems. no real problem there. for the routine use of stormlight by knights radiant, you'll just need to make a deal with a moneychanger. for less than 1% markup, he should be willing to exchange dun spheres for stormlit ones indefinitely. the army-scale supply of lit spheres completely dwarfs any possible demands by three knight radiants, once the next high storm arrives. There might be a SMALL market correction, if the Alethi Treasury is ordered to maintain a strategic stormlight reserve for future emergencies, but it shouldn't be a very big one, and they can easily correct for it once they have reliable contact with outside markets.

I tried using the number pairs to reference chapters, and trying to construct sentences using the chapter titles. nothing intelligible. Tried using the first letter of each chapter title. nothing intelligible. taking the first letter of chapter titles, and reading odd or even characters. nothing.