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  1. Tempus
    I'm going to also go in the squinty eye camp. While the in-world Omi may mean love, and may be contextually pure (as of such), Brandon is the one who designed the language. Brandon has a thing for puns which he admits, but also a love of irony which he doesn't admit (but is the basis of many of his plot twists!) It would be just like him to ironically assign the Aonic word for love to have a similar root word as the alternate force on the planet, not out of any narrative significance, but because it made him giggle.
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    Alright, let me know how the meeting goes then!
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    I've been interested in this, and I've found that the Espoused Theory sigs are the only way to find a lot of great theories and information. I've gone ahead and drawn a bit of a proposal up to improve the system, make sure things don't get buried and make it easier to write them by migrating them to the wiki. Check it out here.
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    Hi, I am fairly new to the forum here, but I've noted that many forum regulars have an espoused theory tag as their signature. At the moment, I've found that the forum is hip-deep in theories, and it's impossible to find many previous theories without those signature links. Many theories are fantastic, well thought out, and highlight important quotes or passages I would not have or would never have noticed. I'd like to suggest an overhaul to the system, where theories could be added to the coppermind wiki. This would have the following benefits: • Theories would all be gathered in one place • Theories would be easily accessible through categories and navigation pages • Theories would be formally laid out, updateable, and contain links back to the forum discussion thread • Pages on the wiki have the benefit of easy citation, easy linking to other relevant pages on the wiki, and all the information gathering power that implies • Theory pages on the wiki could have a list of the author/maintainer of the theory, as well as any individuals who espouse it I've gone ahead and made a sample page for a miniature theory I posted the other day. If there is interest in this system, I am volunteering to make a category framework, all necessary templates, and any other wiki formatting necessary to make the system very easy to use. In addition, I'll also transcribe maybe a dozen theories floating around into the wiki myself right away to give it a bit of a push. So, I'd like to have from the community and moderators the following: • Permission to create a theories category and section on the Coppermind • Feedback on the presentation of the theory pages, what information should be included, and the topic headers • A dozen choco chip cookies • General thoughts about the proposal and ways to make Espousing and viewing theories easier • Throw around possibilities for a better term than 'espoused theories' and people who espouse them
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    Spren can be bonded, Seons can be bonded, Unmade can be bonded... we should all be sure now that any splinter can be bonded with. This is cool. What does this mean? Needs context!
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    Way of Kings took place over several months. Words of Radiance took place over only a few Rosharan weeks. I predict the trend will continue. Book 3 will be only a few days long, Book 4 will be a few hours, and Book 5 will entirely filled with different POV's and flashbacks, and will occupy less than an hour in realtime. The page count of each book will continue to expand, though.
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    WoB has made it pretty clear that 'Taln' is not the Herald Talenat, but someone calling himself by that name.
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    Another thing that you might wish to account for or consider - Aimians are a confirmed non-human sentient race, which are significantly different from either humans or Parshendi, and existed on Roshar at least significantly prior to the Silver Kingdoms era (as they had an established government and country at that time). It is plausible that the Aimians are native to Roshar, and if so, it is interesting they are not similar to the Parshendi in appearance. Comparatively, we have no specific timeline for the appearance of the Parshendi. Despite having various visions showing the Desolations directly, there is no sign of the Parshendi or Parshmen at that time, which is odd. No direct mention of them either. If Parshendi are native to Roshar, and evolved there alongside the Aimians, I think these two points should be addressed.
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    I'm not convinced that bonds are exclusive to one type of spren. The in-text book seems to imply that some orders gain more specific spren. Bondsmiths is the most clear example. If there are orders that bond with very specific spren, there are orders that are not so specific. It's also implied once that there are different varieties of the same spren, notably honorspren, but also cryptics. Kaladin seems to think that bonding with a specific type of spren is the most important thing. I think it's likely that orders of KR are not bonded exclusively to the same type of spren, but instead spren whose characteristic match their surges. The converse of this is that spren bond people for orders of KR who match the characteristics of the order. There are many, many types of spren. It follows from the above that several types of spren could be members of the same orders. And some classes of spren (specifically honorspren, cryptics) seem to be more political affiliations than types exactly the same (as mentioned by Jasnah). Certainly we've seen at least two cryptics (Pattern and Symbolhead) that are clearly different.
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    I assumed the lights winking out were the two other known planets of the Greater Roshar system, Ashyn and Braize. Cause, you know, the sun grew dimmer, so the planets stopped reflecting light. As far as dying in outer space, though, don't we have Word of Brandon that there is a shard on no planet, wandering?
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    Taln is such a philistine. Not necessary that worldhopping has to do with Desolations. Just that the Desolations do not originate on Roshar. Sanderson is far too logical for things like Midnight Essence or voidspren to just 'disappear' for a couple thousand years and no one happens to find them. A number of events such as those or the torture of the Heralds, and the Vorin religious dogma make slightly more sense if the Desolations originate on another planet are brought to Roshar periodically. It seems to fit, but the details we have are insufficient to draw enough conclusions about the exact nature of the Desolation at this time to give this mini-theory enough meat to be a full theory.
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    I don't think that's how it would work. The Aon is the focus, that draws power from the location. The ability to access that locational power is part of the sDNA of the locals, and the power decreases the further you get from the location. Drawing an Aon of another place would change the focus, but not the sDNA that ties the focus to the power source. It seems more likely that for say, an Elantrian on Roshar, some method would need to be found to infuse stormlight into their Aon.
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    That makes a lot of sense. No, not quite. Lerasium is not opposite of atium, not hemalurgy. Atium doesn't transfer spiritweb, hemalurgy does. A hemalurgic spike made out of an sDNA rewriting metal, though, seems like it could steal any investiture. Also, has anyone asked what would happen if you burned a hemalurgic spike?
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    Unlikely. The Shaod only affects people from two specific cities. Word of Brandon says that forging is also specific to people born in a certain location. As magic on Sel seems to be based on Form, and location is the form of the planet, it seems likely that the AonDoR will not be able to represent any alternative location and function. It might be possible to power an Aon with investiture other than that provided by the location of Elantris, though.
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    My original thought was that they were confined to the Greater Roshar system, and a maximum of three planets, yes. The bit about disasters is an interesting parallel, but likely unrelated or at least not directly related. The known Vorin mythos supports a maximum of three planets. It is quite possible the theory could hold true for just two planets, Roshar and Braize. Darkness may or may not know about Nalthis. The Heralds, however, do know about Braize, all too well. And thus a suspected Herald would have a very good point of reference to comment on multiple worlds.
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    'Balance' is a strong theme in all cosmere novels, and 'Balance within a Person' is specifically a Stormlight Archive theme. As far as Honor binds, Odium divides, well, we have a WoB that no other forces are in direct opposition the way Ruin and Preservation are. Another strong supporting point is the Rosharan obsession with symmetry. Symmetry is indeed a form of balance, and is another important theme of the Stormlight Archive specifically.
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    Either way is plausible, really. Unless we see more details about Lerasium in the future, it'll probably be impossible to confirm =(
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    I added what seems to me to be an obvious conclusion if the theory proves true: Parshendi are the native people of Braize. Incidentally to your point about the Ruin-caused Deepness, another big event that caused something important to go wrong was the Reod, no? World-scale natural disasters causing unanticipated trouble might just be a Sanderson writing trope. It doesn't really support or disprove the above theory either way, though.
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    In searching for some other quotes, I came across something that might be an interesting tidbit. The wording is what sparked my mind. Hypothesis: The Desolation is a world-hopping event, and either creates a breach directly to Braize, or transfers things from Braize to Roshar. Evidence: • Odium is suspected to be located on Braize, also called Damnation by Vorinism • The Heralds are tortured in Damnation, or Braize • The return of the Heralds occurs at the same time as the Desolation • The Desolations are preceded by the arrival of a previously unknown on Roshar creature known as the Midnight Essence, seemingly unrelated to the Desolation • The True Desolation is related to a giant storm, the Everstorm, which could have investiture powers on the same scale as the Highstorms • The Spren are particularly wary of the Desolation, and sensitive to it's arrival. Spren live in the cognitive realm, the known method of worldhopping • The Voidbringers were said to be cast back to the 'Tranquiline Halls', a Vorinism belief that corresponds potentially to Yolen (the origin of humanity) • The Odium spren began to appear around the time of the Desolation, and Odium is believed to be on Braize Possible Conclusions: It seems likely that the Desolation itself, in whatever particular form it takes, is a worldhopping event. It is possible that the Desolation is simply the opening of a corridor between Braize and Roshar, causing a variety of creatures to appear in Roshar to wreak havoc. As we have very little specifics about what the Desolation itself is, a more complete conclusion cannot be drawn. Edit: Colloary It strikes me that I missed a vital implication. If the Parshendi are in fact Voidbringers, and the Voidbringers came/were driven to another world at the end of most desolations, it seems logical that the Parshendi were in fact the native race of Braize, not Roshar as some have theorized. They crossed during the world hopping event of the desolations. That would leave the Aimians (confirmed by WoB to be not-human) as the native people of Roshar.
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    All other end-positive abilities require a specific and limited energy source coming externally through the consumption of some object or thing. Forgery has none of that, instead, the duration of the ability depends solely on the cognitive aspect of an object. In short, with forgery, everything seems to be conserved. It's difficult to pin down, though.
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    Such as feruchemical identity, perhaps?
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    Well, I agree that the spirit web was modified by a tool. However, what I'm trying to suggest is - Lerasium rewrote the sDNA to be compatible with the abilities of a Mistborn, but Elend still needed to 'snap' in order to access the ability. It just so happened that he had a spiritweb tear at exactly the right time, so a separate snapping wasn't necessary. Since we know sDNA is inherited, and that Mistborns did not come auto-snapped, I'm assuming that the original sDNA for allomantic abilities requires the spiritweb tear, and the source for that original sDNA change is the Lerasium, thus Lerasium Elend required a tear to become an 'activated' Mistborn. Also: I can't decide whether to spell it spiritweb or spirit web.
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    I agree about this being possible with Forgery quite easily. It's already clear from Gold healing and Stormlight healing, as well as forgery, that how a thing sees itself is the most important part of the process. If an individual sees themselves cognitively as the wrong gender, it would be fairly easy to soulstamp them to be that gender. Much easier than say, creating an entire persona about a warrior monk or a beggar. As most transgendered people describes themselves as feeling exactly that sort of cognitive dissonance, I suspect that a gender forgery would be one that takes very easily and very strongly.
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    Hmm, I think a few things don't quite ring true with some comments above. It seems to me that the important point is, in order to acquire an investiture, one must have a broken spirit web. Spirit webs tear through strong emotional events, good or bad. sDNA causes the form of the power that results. I suspect that spiritweb tearing is only necessary when the form of investiture is 'end-positive', as defined in the Mistborn appendices. In Stormlight Archive, spren wait until a person with the right qualities breaks their spiritweb, and then bonds into the tear. It's possible the 'right qualities' are determined by sDNA, and the spren only offer access to power. Surgebinding is end positive. In Mistborn, a latent sDNA potentiate waits until their spiritweb breaks, and then they have access to power. In Mistborn, the mists forced a sickness which tore the spiritweb - the power was not granted externally as suggested above, anymore than beating a noble was external granting of power. Both methods are indirect. Even when Elend took the Lerasium, he was in the middle of a traumatic event. Also in Mistborn, though, Feruchemy does not seem to require any tearing of the spiritweb. It is described as end-neutral. Hemalurgy (end-negative) obviously does, in the way that you might expect being murdered to cause a spiritweb tearing. It's unknown if the recipient requires a tear as well, but it's likely - Steel Inquisitors would have a tear, as would Vin, and the Lord Ruler, and Wax. We don't have any other good examples. In Elantris, the sDNA of a person which records where a person came from is most important, but I don't believe the Shaod is externally forced either. We are unaware of what triggers it, but it's likely triggered by some tearing of the spiritweb. Also interesting is that it is only triggered at night - the only time specific triggering. Aons are end-positive. In Emperor's Soul, forging is related to the location they were born in. The power seems to correspond to end-neutral, though. In Warbreaker, everyone has a breath. Likely part of their sDNA. Breaths seem to be end-neutral. However, it ALSO occurs to me that being born probably tears the spiritweb. Could being born grant breath? I'm leaning no, but it's a possibility. The one semi-clear example of a Returned had also been through traumatic events, and would have had a spirit-web tear. It's possible that becoming a returned requires a tear at the time of death, along with stated verbal intent (similar to commands, no? Also spren bonds).
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    The entirety of the KR is a little weird. We know they have unusually good access to the cognitive realm. We know they made a map of Shadesmar with the expanses listed. We have WoB that the expanses are different planets. We know the KR used Shadesmar as transportation. Yet somehow, there is absolutely no mention of world hopping by the Knights Radiant. No stories about other planets, no divulged notes from the in-book texts showing the knowledge of worldhopping. In addition, mythos like 'Roshars are refugees' or other things like that do not include the idea of another world. Jasnah never mentions anything that might imply other worlds, and nor does Super Taravanigan - indeed, despite being incredibly smart and well read and able to guess so many things, it's possibly implied that he suspects worldhopping for the first time (but possibly unrelated). It's fishy. Really fishy. Is it possible that travel between worlds in the Cognitive Realm requires something more complex than simply access to Shadesmar? Something complex enough that people familiar with the Cognitive Realm do not even understand the nature of the expanses?
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