Aleksiel

It's the same person and I think in WoR prelude Jasnah thinks he was one of the ambassadors of the West, so Elhokar should know him or at the very least made acquaintance of him since he was the acting Highprince of Kholinar and heir to the throne.

I think Kaladin made it very clear killing a man in the dark isn't the WR way and I very much doubt a WR would murder an unarmed man. I agree with maxal and Itoo think Adolin can be ED - he's so refined he wears cologne in prison, eloquent, elegant, nice clothes and fashion sense - all outside sings of an ED. He is loving and caring towards his family and men. He thinks about all soldiers, the little darkeyed boys (let one try his helm), he cares - for the men who died on Elhokar's hunt, for all those Sadeas got killed on the Tower. While Dalinar doesn't let himself grief or get emotional about fallen men, Adolin cares deeply and gets angry, he can't turn off his emotions. A Shardblade could be revived if certain circumstances are met and Adolin has been talking to his for a long time, may be giving it some consciousness or awareness. He stopped feeling the Thrill and during his two fights with Szeth there's this Duck in italic that appears seemingly from nowhere - Blades get a little alive when summoned and when touched by a surgebinder, which didn't happen to Adolin's, but there might be something. Notice how he hasn't named his Blade because he thinks it would be wrong to give it a wrong name - that some Radiant of old named it and it wasn't his place to call the Blade something else. ED are about remembering the forgotten as far as their second oath goes and Adolin's been remembering his mother. It's only fitting he gets to learn the real name of his Blade. edit: spelling

The Shin have two Honorblades with Regrowth, I haven't noticed until now we have confirmed neither Vedel nor Pailiah is the Herald who went back. Look up Rand Al'Thor, Luke Skywalker and Jaime Lannister In the first version Nale most likely used a fabrial with Regrowth - the same sub-surge Lift used to heal (or bring back to life) Gawx.

Pattern (because he requires truths )? Soulcasting?

Sebarial?

Nale is essentially someone Szeth worships. Having one of your gods (or something like that) offer you a second chance is a huge thing and it counts for more you're giving it credit in my opinion. In the first version In the new version Szeth doesn't say anything like 'Thank the stones I'm alive, I did the stupidest maneuver ever', so I do believe Szeth committed suicide. As I said, I'm fine with Kaladin's choice to not go after Szeth, but I agree to disagree on that and stop here if you don't want to continue discussing it.

It took some persuading on Nale's side to dissuade Szeth, who clearly wished he was dead at first. I don't think Lashing Szeth would have worked, he would just fall slowly into two colliding storms that were throwing stones hundreds of feet in the air - something I don't believe he would have survived. So Kal would be forced to hold both Szeth and the Honorblade. And I don't see Szeth being happy or content to be saved. He screamed at Nalan for resurrecting him; imagine Szeth's reaction midair while Kal is trying to navigate through the storm holding him and catch the Honorblade - that could have ended poorly for both of them. But let's say Kaladin somehow grabbed Szeth and saved him - what does he do with him? Why save him from fall and let him throw himself in a chasm a few minutes later? How anti-climatic would that be? So Kal would have to be consistent and persuade Szeth to live. OK, Szeth decided to live. Now what? Kal couldn't just leave him on the Shattered Plains as that would be death. To bring him to Urithiru would essentially be a death sentence since pardoning Szeth would be illogical and against the wishes of whole kingdoms. He can't just be pardoned because his people have this weird oathstone thingy going on. Plot-wise, saving Szeth's life would have created a ton of unnecessary trouble. edit; In-world (since I pulled the plot-wise card, it's only fair to write about this, too) Kal had no reason to think Szeth released the bond without considering he's hundreds of feet in the air. Kal had a falling mass murderer who no longer presented a threat to those Kal was sworn to protect, and a dangerous weapon that could lead to the deaths of people Kal loves if it fell into the wrong hands. So going after the Honorblade makes perfect sense. Saving Szeth sounds Edgedancer-ish, but isn't required by what we've seen from the WR's philosophy, and there really isn't a good reason to save the crazy mass murderer who just killed two of your friends from falling to his death that the said mass murderer apparently chose.

I don't think Kaladin should have, let alone had any moral obligation, to invalidate the first choice Szeth made on his own free will in seven or so years. Szeth didn't accidentally ran out of stormlight, he purposely released his bond midair knowing full well he would fall to his death. I think it would have been selfish for Kaladin to save Szeth using 'protecting' as an excuse while taking away Szeth's free will. The protective part of Kaladin's character fits the catching of the Honorblade that anyone could use to become the next mass murderer. Kaladin wasn't sure he'd survive the clashing storms below, so Lashing Szeth down wouldn't have worked. What, was Kal supposed to awkwardly hold him tight while Szeth was trying to jump to his death?

And may be it was neither white, nor with gold, but it was actually black and blue...

I don't mind the changes. I'm actually more curious why the dress of Shallan's mother needed to be changed than anything else. I'm fine with Kaladin's choice - it makes more sense for him to hesitate to kill Szeth, but that's my interpretation of his character. Choosing not to catch Szeth is also fine with me. Kal, thankfully, hasn't sworn to protect those who don't want to be protected. Kaladin needs to begin to acknowledge people are free to make their own choices and he can't always protect them; that's actually what I hope his story arch to be about later on. He was entirely too protective of his men to the point he wish they hadn't agreed to stay with Dalinar as bodyguards. Szeth committed suicide both times, although I think choosing to let go of the Blade he used to kill so many people has more significance to it than the previous refusal to parry Kaladin's attack. In a way I see it as Szeth letting go of one source of pain. He realized he was free and not Truthless, so he cut the last tie to his prison. Syl has dissuaded Kal on previous occasions - when he wanted to throw himself in the Honor chasm, when he wanted to kill Amaram. This wasn't a moment for a softer approach, the Blade was about to be lost in the colliding storms, so she was a bit more forceful and straight-forwarded. Syl has been thinking without remembering much about the Blade ever since Kal and Szeth's first fight. Now she probably remembers more or she learned something in Shadesmar. Not losing the Honorblade was definitely very important, she and Kaladin had to make sure it's secured and no one can get his hands on it. However, there's still the issue Szeth was certain the Stone Shamans can recover it, so it's bound to get interesting.

I meant the material appears to be the same in color and consistency, and I think it's a valid use of the word. Plates look the same when it comes to the material; they look different when it comes to how it's shaped, but that wasn't what I was referring to. If you have a better phrasing, do share.

I don't have the slightest idea, have my upvote to fix it. It happens sometimes, a misclick on the phone or something like that. Appearance, but no in stylistic elements. It looks like it's made of the same material and it feels like the same material from what I've gathered. You can craft different looking armors from the same material, but it's still the same material, only the way it's forged changes. Like you have different cotton shirts. Cotton feels different from wool, yet you can have a variety of cotton clothes and it's still cotton. If you get where I'm going with this, because I can't think of a better way to translate my idea right now.

I didn't mean the stylish details - all Plates act the same, feel the same way, etc, so they seems to be made of the same material. Unless your argument is all type of lesser spren are the same in everything but looks. What happens to a re-grown Plate, one with some missing elements? Do the new elements change stylistically or just their properties? Adopting the new look is an easy explanation for what you point out.

Since all Plates look the same without paint, I doubt each Order had a different type of lesser spren that made their Plate. I think it's more likely for all Plate to be made of the same type of spren/fabrial/whatever material it actually is. The helm drained the light of the spheres, not the stomlight Kaladin was holding. Otherwise Gavilar's Plate would have sucked Szeth's light and repair itself.

I like this, it gives a new dimension to the saying one should always keep an infused sphere for luck.

It's interesting idea, but what would she do with so much stromlight on the ship? According to Brandon, Jasnah's not experienced in elsecalling (so she probably hasn't done it before; she couldn't have been traveling around during the trip since she can only return to the Physical realm from the Cognitive in some fixed locations), and much soulcasting would have likely be noticed at least by Shallan.

Can we get either the answer or more straight forwarded clues? It's been a week now.

It was an honest question because that's what I recall without being sure about it; otherwise I would have posted some textual evidence. But I'll see if I can find a quote.

Didn't the patriots admit they were behind the accident with Elhokar's Plate?

The only nicknames that come to my mind are Kaladin Stormblessed, and Kelsier the Survivor of Hathsin, but somehow I doubt it's either of them. I really don't get the riddle.

How about another clue about the character? Dead roses don't ring a bell

Welcome to the forum! The Recreance is after the Last Desolation and according to a recent WoB (that's short for word of Brandon) the Recreance is closer to present time than it to the Last Desolation. So I don't know if the KR had been fighting the Parshendi. At the very least there shouldn't have been any Voidbringers around and present day Parshendi are something normal soldiers can handle. Not worth breaking Oaths for in my opinion. According to the latter's legends of the Last Legion, the Parshendi chose to abandon their gods (and some forms apparently).

Is that some Romeo and Juliet reference? So, with that 'dead rose' may be a Returned like Blushweaver?

Beheading is the typical death sentence, I don't think hanging has been mentioned in SA as punishment. So it's not that it's taboo to behead, the phrasing just emphasizes the only thing a bridgeman could do to be sentenced to death is to refuse to do what he's supposed to. Shallan jokes 'fondness for beheadings' comes with being a royalty in WoR. Hm, that's not what I thought of when I read the scene. In my mind it's Kal's (next to) final breaking point. Remembering Tien's death was the only other time Kal cried on-screen; I don't think we've seen him cry after that.

It's ok The person who guesses right gets to ask the next one.