Awesomeness Summoned

I don't seem to recall Claincy ever stating exactly how many total breaths the PK started with. I think you are basing your decision on a pretty big assumption about just how much breath each of the Hallendren PK had. It's bed time now though for me so I'll just finish the debate by again saying we'll just have to see tomorrow morning after the write up.

I'll take that bet Aonar and really hope you aren't going commando. While I'll enjoy seeing you eat your robes, I don't really want to see what's underneath them. Edit: As I mentioned in my previous post Aonar, just giving up breaths should no longer be a criteria. In addition to giving you 3 breath, I proved to have had a strawman from day one and that I used it each night instead of buying breath. That means I started with six breaths. The same can't be said for Barty and Wil'son. I know Barty only started with 3 and based on the times I sent my strawman to spy on Wil'son, I think she started with about the same. 6 breaths would be OP for the PK. With the number of people in the game though, I can see at least one PK starting with 3 breaths. Guess we'll see tomorrow morning.

Plus I feel like that could lead to a lot of peer pressure. People should upvote because they want to and think it's deserved, not because their upvote to post ratio isn't as high as some other people's

The talent of browsing 17th Shard with any of four different devices at my house (whichever is closest at hand)

Not sure if this will really sway anyone's votes or anything but just thought I should throw out there that I did end up getting ahold of Quiver by a PM that was unrelated to the game. During the conversation I brought up the game and his responses did genuinely seem like someone who hadn't really kept up with what was going on. His reason for being inactive was that real life prevented him from checking in on the game for about a week. When he had the time to check the forums again the game had gotten too confusing with who had what breath and what roles (which I kinda understand with this game) so he decided to just pass on things until the next one. Anyway, it more or less convinced me that he is actually inactive which is why I didn't vote for him today. I really would like to just finally end things with the PK so I'd rather vote for someone who's suspicious for more than just being inactive. For myself, Barty and Wil'son top that list and I'm actually quite amazed Wil'son hasn't received any suspicion despite being in the top three of Aonar's unverified list. She has either done something to prove her innocence to a few people or she has done a masterful job of flying under the radar.

Current recap: Ver (3): Aodan, Sifa, Dirt Barty (2): Summon, Rick Rick (2): Aili Breath given: Barty No vote: Rowan, Cen, Chide, Wil'son, Ver, Dainard Other unverified Hallendrens: Summon Wil'son

He already did that in Elantris

And... the axehound

Just playing around with coloring some of the fauna artwork from the books and threw a few icons together. Really like how the santhid eye turned out.

You might want to break your thoughts into paragraphs in the future @Xianpoxi. That giant block of text is a bit intimidating.

Well, you and Aonar can agree to that plan, Aili, but I'm not changing my vote from Barty just because he gives his breath away. As we have established, there is no way the PK can win at this point so all they can do is buy themselves some time and see how many of our own we kill off before they are rooted out. A few breaths aren't going to save a PK from that fate so why wouldn't one agree to give away their breaths if it gets them declared innocent for at least one more day? Barty has shown from early on that he was willing to reveal his breaths and offer them up as proof of innocence, so I see no reason why him doing it again at this point exonerates him. I am by no means saying I really have any stronger suspicions of him than I do Ver, Wil'son or Rick (because I really don't). I'm Just saying that I think having him give his breaths to prove his innocence is an empty gesture at this point. If it looks like the votes are going against him, yeah, give Aili your breaths right before the end to help the group. But giving up his breath isn't going to convince me he's innocent (that goes for anyone at this point).

What authors' books, other than Sanderson, have you read up to this point?

Hm, not sure... But either way, you still end up with a dead Returned.

You're just looking at the wrong end of the tool Grey

Give the Kandra back it's spike and it's a kandra again. You can't reattach a Returned head and get a functioning Returned

Awww, that's so sad.

I've watched too many of the "True Facts" videos. That guy's voice creeps in now whenever I hear Morgan Freeman talk. "That is how the penguin do."

I'm assuming you mean quoting and keeping the user/date/time tags as opposed to just using the regular quote tags? Just click the quote button then copy and paste it all into the correct thread you want to quote it in.

But Morgan Freeman already taught us everything we needed to know about them didn't he?

I have a lot of confidence around animals but you have to face biology. Humans just aren't made for direct confrontation without our tools. I'll agree with you Falcon and say coyotes/dogs would probably be my limit. Anything that weighs more than me and has sharp claws/teeth/horns will likely end me. Your comment on penguins Caleb made me think of something that always makes me laugh. Why do people runaway from an animal that poses no real challenge to them at all. The biggest example of this is ducks. Why do people run in terror when a duck chases them? As Falcon said, I don't condone harming animals for fun but I also won't back down from one that has no business attacking me. I had a duck come after me for no reason once. I'll just say I played a lot of soccer growing up and things didn't end well for that duck. A penguin would make a decent soccer ball as well.

I live in Houston where it only snows maybe once every four years at best. There are two reasons places like that get off of school when it snows even just a little. First, since it is a rare occurrence, we don't have the road services setup to keep things safe for people who would have to travel on roads to take their kids to and from school. Secondly, we don't get snow much so it's kind of like a holiday when it comes. Gotta let the kids enjoy it when its here. By the way, I agree with Matrim, you definitely need to take a vacation to a winter location if you haven't experienced snow. I go skiing every christmas and its one of the best weeks of the year. I most definitely don't want to live in a place that snows all winter but its great for a visit.

The only error I see is that I'm on the list . Guess that's kind of an inevitability when the PK has to be Hallandren and there are only so many of us left to choose from. As usual, I'm not a fan of bandwagons so I'm going to vote for Barty at this point. The PK didn't make a kill last night and my strawman reported that Barty took absolutely no action last night. That's about as a close of a correlation as I can draw from my limited information I currently have. If you can provide a good reason for your inaction last night Barty other than to avoid drawing suspicions, I'm all ears.

Plus, Auri is at the university. Nuff said.

Seriously, the internet (and the world in general) would be a much more wonderful place if it was more like the 17s.

There is an entire subheading for Steelheart discussion in the Non Cosmere Works section:http://www.17thshard.com/forum/forum/56-steelheart/