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  1. Haelbarde
    I checked through the elim doc from lg18, and when I went to the imre in that game, I got my talent pipes, a loan from Devi, a gram and 2 nahlrout all in one turn. So any of our five Aturans could also have purchased the gram, by getting a loan.
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    I'm not a 100% on the rules for the Imre, but can one go to Devi's and purchase something from the black market /the apocathery on the same turn? Because if so, then an Aturan Nobleperson could also purchase a gram. Commoners still wouldn't.
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    If you put 40 votes on someone, then they will be expelled regardless of where masters put ep (2 complaints = 1 DP). You can probably expell someone with less too. If you then want to make it non-lethal for other candidates then you spread votes around over the rest of the players.
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    All good. A jot and an EP isn't a big deal, and to be clear, I don't want to discourage discussion or votes based on suspicion, so if you're suspicious, go right ahead! Though earlier in the cycle would be preferable, so I can respond (end of cycle is 4-6am or something for me)
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    If this ever gets rerun, you should make the Edema performance bonus a fixed minimum, rather than a small bonus. It makes no sense for Edema, who get a lodging discount due to their performing ability to be useless performers, and presumably below average.
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    Fun fact: one 200 word rp post is worth at least twice as much tuition reduction as a single complaint.
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    Interesting. All nine fields raised someone. Unfortunately, one was not me... D: Seeing as I have it prepared, I shall post this now... @Arinian (and @Jondesu and @randuir, though it's unclear exactly what your thoughts had been) O: Let's stop and consider the financial status for each of the different classes, shall we? The first thing is that everyone can reasonably expect to accrue 3 talents worth of tuition reductions. This is done by posting, sending a PM, filing a complaint, and impressing a master (putting EP into a field) at least once per cycle. Now, let's start from the top. Vintish Noblepeople get an obscene 30 talent stipend. Even staying at the Horse and Four, in addition to not doing anything, on top of their 33% tuition increase, they still gain 5 talents per term. Oh and they have a 20 talent buffer in case they need it. Aturan Noblepeople 'only' get 20 talents per term. But if they get the aforementioned 3 talent reduction, they are also able to stay in the Horse and Four and still gain 1 talent per cycle to add to their 13 talent stockpile. Yillish Commoners get a stipend of 11 talents. With 3 talents of reductions, they can stay at the Ankers without losing anything, or could stay at the Mews to get an easy profit. If they were keen, 5 RP posts per cycle would allow them to break even while staying at the Golden Pony. They also have a buffer of 7 talents. Cealdish Commoners get a stipend of 9.8 talents. They can stay at the Mews for a 2 talent gain, or the Ankers and break even by making 1 RP post per cycle, and posting a few times about game stuff. 6 RP posts per cycle would get them to the Golden Pony. They also have 6.5 talents of wiggle room with fees. Edema Ruh get 4.5 talents per term. 4.5. So staying at the Mews (half price) and getting that 3 talents of reductions brings the term fees to 7.5 talents. That means, to just breakeven, I, as an Edema Ruh, must make a minimum of 6 RP posts that are at least 200 words per term (3 per cycle). I made 3 total. I also did not file a complaint on the first cycle. So I was going to be losing money this term. But it was only going to be 1.5 talents, and so with my starting 3 talents, dropping to 1.5 talents was ok. Taking a complaint isn't that bad either. 1.4 isn't all that different. But getting put on the horns? Being put on the horns gets me kicked out of the uni, or onto the streets (which can well be a death sentence, given the Bloodthirsty God Dice that preside over this game). Now, you might say "But what about Talent Pipes? Get your Talent Pipes and your money problems are solved!" I will not be trying to get my Talent Pipes. Even though I submitted a song and Edema get a secret bonus to their performing stat, my stat is still so bad that it basically says I have no skill or ability at all. So yeah. Don't think, even for one moment that I, or any other Edema for that matter, is capable of absorbing being brought onto the Horns just because they've RP'd lots. /rant
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    @Ornstein That's not the point, I don't think. At this stage it's about spreading votes to prevent anyone being taken to the horns. And here's one I just prepared. Vote Tally: Wilson(1): Aonar{1} HH(1): Drake{1}, Drake{3.1} Burnt(1): Alv{1} Drake{0}: Rand{1} DA{5}: Burnt{1.1}, Joe{1.1}, Eol{1}, Drake{2.1}, Stick{1.1}, Arinian{1} Aman{4}: Burnt{1.2}, Joe{1.2}, PK{1.1}, PK{1.2}, Drake{2.3} Mage{1}: Wilson{1} Steph(1): Mage{1.1} Alv(1): Mage{1.2} Arinian(1): Drake{3.2} Ornstein(1): Rand{2.1} Cluny(1): Rand{2.2} stick(1): Arinian{2.1} Brightness(1): Arinian{2.2} Burgundy(1): Hael{1} @Arinian Have you removed your vote on DA? I haven't checked, but if you haven't, you'll need to do so. Think I'm going to put a vote on Burgundy both as a reminder to post more, and to spread the DP. (Edit: And to get a tuition reduction while I'm at it)
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    The Masters have their 10(?) DP to throw around, which is randomly distributed over those who have complaints on them (and I'm pretty sure it's just over the number of different players, not weighted by the number of complaints) . Every two complaints then adds 1 additional DP on top of the randomly distributed stuff from the NPC masters.
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    Bah, don't have the energy to do every post. I'm not El but I can answer those questions. Ranks are uni wide, not subject specific. Doesn't matter if the Naming master raises you then Rhetoric master. You've been raised twice, so you're a Re'lar. Only way of getting more elevations is to become a master, and then lose your rank, and then be raised again (doesn't have to be the same field). As far as your second question, pretty sure that's correct.
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    The assessment done, he now had time to consider the report further. It was slightly worrying how many complaints had been thrown around last time, and the tuition inflation associated with having a complaint filed against you had caused at least one Edema to be kicked out of the uni for a term due to the unexpected price hike. The complaint had been random and baseless too. He knew also that a single complaint in a given month could guarantee expulsion, so were there any complaints, there needed to be many complaints so the load was shared and no one was expelled without cause. He mused that not complaining also left the skindancers an opportunity to potentially expell a student or even two, of their choice. Preventing that from happening would seem prudent. He checked the time and sighed. It was time for his next class, and he'd barely been able to finish the work. He was going to need help if he was to keep this up.
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    Needing a break from the assessment he was working on, Glavion returned to looking at the skindancer report for more details. One of the poorest skindancers, Pyra, had invoked Sympathy on Marcos Wayweather, who made a gift of his talent pipes shortly before dying under suspicious circumstances. An unfortunate series of events for sure, but an interesting idea. Maybe he too could find a sponsor for whom he could offer assistance too. Maybe he would have to post an advert on a noticeboard or something. He made a note in his journal. Another thing to catch his eye was a few of the notes the author of the report had made on the factors leading to the skindancers defeat. To have destroyed the uni, they would have been required to master each school in turn, and destroy it from within. But with four individuals and nine schools, at least one would have been required to master three schools. As destroying a school would have revealed their identity, achieving this would have been unfeasible. Had they have had more agents, more schools would have been able to targetted simultaneously, and with six agents, only three would be required to master a second field. Further yet, were six skindancers to achieve mastery, their sheer power would be truly overpowering. It seemed to him that were there six infiltrators, then the University was already doomed. With a shake of his head, he put the report aside. He needed focus presently, and report had the potential to stress him out further. Turning back to his work, he attempted to clear his mind of fears of skindancers.
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    Getting to his favorite spot in the library, he was glad to see it was free. It appeared it had been used recently though, as there were a few reports left on the table. He tidied them up into a pile to place on the corner of the table so that he had space. Most seemed fairly boring, but one caught his eye. It was a report written about the last series of skindancer attacks on the university. He had a flick through. There had been 24 individuals involved last time, 4 of which had secretly been skindancers. All of them had been brought to justice, though not without cost. They had possessed a range of students, from a Aturan Nobleman to an Edema Ruh, with a pair of commoners. It would seem reasonable to expect a similar approach this time, though maybe they'd have less extremes. This years intake also seemed to be a bit larger than during the last attack, and given their defeat last time he suspected they would send more this time. There certainly wouldn't be less. 5 seemed a safe estimate, though 6 didn't seem unreasonable. Checng the time, he'd already spent enough time looking at the report. Further study would have to come later.
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    Glavion left the hall, bag over his shoulder and violin case in hand, which constituted the extent of his worldly possessions. Skindancers? Again? He had enough trouble getting through his studies and finding time to pay his way. As it stood, he feared he'd be out of the uni by the end of the year, unless he could find more money. He didn't have the time to worry about skindancers too! He had assignments to work on, with one due this afternoon. So he found his way to the library to try get some work done.
  15. Haelbarde
    Alright, I'll sign up. Glavion will be attending the university. Something I want to say now is that I will be refusing to play along with any schemes that use linguistics to directly scan for skindancers (for example, forcing everyone to include the phrase "I am not a skindancer" in a post, and then not lie in posts). There is an entire faculty for finding skindancers. Use that, not linguistics. Plus strats that encourage village trust groups to try force people to play a certain way is something I'd rather avoid. It was something that bothered me about the last game but as a skindancer I wasn't really in a position to effectively complain about it. Edit: I'll try workout a background and maybe a cosmetic role tomorrow. Edit 2: @Elbereth Is the d10 1-10 or 0-9 like the actual numbers on a d10? Edit 3: Tag request - "Fun with tags! "
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    Is thinking of joining. This was fun last time round, even if I got *destroyed*.... And @little wilson, but if we'd gone physicking and naming, what about controlling linguistics and rhetoric (sorry @Elbereth )?
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    The few times I've read some sections of the Qu'ran I've found it a bit vague and confusing as compared to what I'm used to with the bible. Maybe it was just the bits I looked at. Re: the Jews and Israel, my faith is firmly with the Israel was always expected to be restored to the land, and that God has a plan for the Jews, although more related to Christ returning to set up a worldwide kingdom, with a temple on Zion as the capital.
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    I said an easy way Pre-update, you could click on where it says the number of posts in the thread, and it would display a breakdown of who had posted in the thread, and how many times they'd posted. Don't think that works any more :'(
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    Is there an easy way of seeing who has posted, and how many times, in a given thread since the update? As far as keeping track of voting, have you seen the vote tallies with the vote history that Kas and I use? That's easy enough to make, and record. I often keep track of if someone has posted, so I have data on how active players are.
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    Thanks for the game Wyrm and Kas, and for all the amazing write ups!
  21. Haelbarde
    Unfortunately, with the game still running, we probably can't discuss the specifics of the inactivity in the game just yet, but I do still have some thoughts. I think one of the biggest things is people not really understanding, or acknowledging, the time commitments of these games. Really, any game probably requires, as a minimum, half an hour a day, reading the thread, and making a quick response. To contribute analysis or RP, you jump up to more like an hour and a half, at least. And depending on the format, you are expected to keep that up anywhere from a few days, to a month and a half (I guess that also depends on when you get killed). It's not a small time commitment, and if you skip that half hour, it makes it all that much harder to get back into it. I think a problem that does occur is that people don't actually work out how busy their life is for the duration of the game. Another problem is people signing up for games, and then not caring enough to remember they are playing. Another is having multiple commitments to games. Some of this I've said before - I think ever game should have a strategy in place to deal with inactives, whether a filter, or pinchhitters, or whatever else. I'd also be interested in having some sort of CAPTCHA to ensure only people who read the rules actually play. But a new thought is that I think people should be actively discouraged from playing more than one game at a time, and particularly not two LGs at the same time. Ideally, rules of games should be available well in advance, so people can prioritize which games they join. I think a reason people ignore their time constraints is because the games are all so interesting, and they aren't forced to choose, so play both. I personally haven't found the game environment hostile, although I'm both an R&R player, and someone who had been semi on hiatus, and will soon go on hiatus permanently, and do I think that game complexity has hurt people's ability to contribute discussion/analysis, I don't think that accounts for most of the inactivity. You know what the problem with working out what causes inactivity? The lack of talking Ultimately, I think it's a mix of things. And that's going to require a mix of solutions. Recurring players need to be conscious of the effect of their inactivity on the games they join. Ideally, they are honest with themselves, and do their best to only play when they know they have the time to commit. GMs need strategies both to handle when players temporarily have to deal with life, and to deal with players not willing to put the minimum required effort in. New players need to be clearly communicated what the expected activity is. Ideally change should come from the players, but not all the problems can be solved by players - new players who sign up and don't do anything, or players who have unforseeable emergencies. I think it would be valuable for the community to brainstorm ways for GMs to handle these sorts of situations. Apart from this post, and the one pointing to this thread, neither of which actually include playing an active game, I indeed kept to that. And it got me RPing. But the rule was a pretty silly rule that had little to do with the sort of thing I was talking about. You've repurposed it for the AG, which may help RP, although I found it hobbled me - it was harder to contribute lots of posts, or in a quick manner. The rules I was suggesting were less about forcing players to do something specific, rather providing easy to manage regulations to minimize the possibility, or impact, of players going inactive. Personal favorite use of a TL;DR!
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    Apologies for the intrusion. In response to Wonko's post, I would like to link people to the SE Questions & Answers thread, where there has been some discussion (although it sorta died out...) on the topic. That thread makes for a good place to have this discussion where it won't get lost or fragmented over many games.
  23. Haelbarde
    There was a slight pop as Hal appeared out of thin air. From the top of the hill, he could see the hapless Tyrian Falls spread out before him. It seemed peaceful, but he knew it was just the eye of the Highstorm, the peace before another Desolation. He wondered if this cycle of death and misery had been the result of a previous Vessel of Odium. There was a touch of Hate here, he felt. But not his own own, and he Hated not knowing. He knew he wouldn't, or more, couldn't get involved directly. That hadn't stopped him from inducing some shared nightmares of his own. Maybe it would be enough to make a difference. It's AG3! I won't be playing - I'm going on hiatus for the foreseeable future - so just popping in to wish the village good luck! Hopefully anyone who played the last MR or QF (or both!) will be able to put anything they learned to good use! While I'm here, just wanted to comment on the Cosmetic roles: Firstly, why no 'Bard' role - making a song reference in every post, with bonus points for full or partial parodies? I mean, Scholarly is close, but still... Secondly, I'm slightly concerned that RAW, they'll discourage discussion a bit - including really specific RP stuff like in most of those is going to prohibit discussion done over lots of short back-to-back posts. RPing those is bad enough, having to whine about your parents in every breath would be awful. It'd be a bit unrealistic to have a conversation where that's in every sentence. A few times a cycle, sure, but not every post. Now, you do say that, as far as the 'awards' go, players are chosen by the mods as doing the best job at conveying that Cosmetic role, which to me implies it's okay if stuffs not necessarily in each post, if it is clearly portrayed as an important part of you character when you make larger RP posts. Is that an okay assumption?
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    Yeah, I really needed to have thought through and written out the criteria for the filter clearer. I tried to give a warning first before enforcing it in some cases. And for that last cycle, with whether to filter kill JUQ or not, I'm fairly confidant that Stick would still have kept her vote on Kynedath, and so the outcome would have been unchanged. Asking the IM for the specific cases is probably the best thing, along with clearer criteria. I imagine this style filter is going to feel more comfortable in a MR with 48 hour cycles, where a single surprise on one day can get you killed.
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    The knife fell, and Lyce Norvo fell by Stick's hands. "We did it! We got them all!" Rhea smiled. "Indeed we did. The invitation didn't lie - there were certainly surprises around ever corner." John nodded. "Yeah. Secrets were certainly found. Like that wine cellar that Borris found. I didn't know that the manor had a winecellar. Did you Rhea?" "Nope, that was a surprise to me. And there's certainly riches. Look at all that stuff that Lyce had. All that gold to share between the two of us." "Um... two of us?" Stick had a confused look on their face. "Last I counted, there were three of us here..." John looked at Stick. "I only count two people who'll be walking out of here alive." He pointed at himself. "There's me." And then he pointed over Sticks shoulder. "And that nice lady with the knife." Before Stick had the chance to react, Rhea jammed her knife into the base of Stick's skull. Kynedath was lynched. He was a Guest. He had 5864 gtold, 2 Long Daggers, a Bow, a Brass Pearl Ring, a Jeweled Amulet, a Grey Cowl, 7 Keys, 4 Lockpicks, a copy of 'The Five Tenets', a copy of 'Guide to Skingrad', a copy of 'Macabre Manifest', a copy of 'Myth or Menace', a copy of 'The Red Book of Riddles', a copy of 'On Oblivion', a copy of 'Bible of the Deep Ones', a Mysterious Note, a Black Cowl, Pigskin Shoes, Doeskin Shoes, Chainmail Boots, Russet Felt Shoes, a Club, an Iron Battleaxe, an Iron Warhammer, a Silver Mace, 2 Daggers, a Mage's Staff of Silence, Stendarr's Toothpick (a Silver-capped Staff), 2 Staffs, a Leather Shield, a Silver Ring, a Grand Soul Gem, Wrist Irons, 3 Tongs, 14 Paintbrushes, 2 Bottles of Cheap Wine, 2 Bottles of Mead, all the cheese, 17 Dragon's Tongue Flowers, 5 Lavender Sprigs, 2 Nightshade Flowers, and 3 Fly Amanita Caps. I am a Stick was killed. She was a Guest. She had 69 gold, a Staff of Flame, and Pigskin Shoes. Vote Tally Kynedath(3): Stick, JUQ, Nyali And that's game. The Dark Brotherhood Assassins (Joe, Elenion, Nyali, and JUQ) have won. They forfeited their bonus reward by two of their number being found, but the surviors will still be paid the base amount as dictated by their contract. I'll try and get the two missing writeups done as soon as I can, and hopefully some more detailed thoughts on this game (as well as last game). But in general, I was happier with how this game went. Particularly with Kas playing, we got some good analysis/discussion going in the early part of the game, even if not all of it was correct (but that's just how these things go). The initial activity was good, but it was a bit unfortunate that we lost 4 players to the inactive filter (apologies Elodin for killing you on your birthday...). I was also pretty happy with the item system that I tacked on at last minute. It was mostly there so Burnt could steal people's shoes, but other people engaged with it, which was nice. I was a bit sad no one tried exploring in general though - someone finding a Daedric shrine would have been a bit of un. Anyway, I hope everyone enjoyed themselves, and I'd love to hear people's thoughts on how the game went, and things like the filter and the item system. Did people find the filter got them to post more? Links: Dark Brotherhood Doc Dead Doc Spectator Doc
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