Araris Valerian

The writeups in this game were some of the best we've had recently :). I proclaim Nohadon to be my heir, for an excellent record for a coinshot. Thank you Wyrm for running the game, and to everyone else for making it so much fun. And sorry @Rathmaskal, I wasn't actually a Seeker. Edit: @Wyrmhero, Shqueeves role isn't shown in the player list.

The Lurcher is a really strong role. Usually if the village has one, they only have 1.

I think Fura might the the 5th elim. Rath said some things to me in a PM that make me somewhat confident that he is village, beyond the Tineye message. Also, if Xino is an elim, my House would have had 3, and I'm not yet convinced that Wyrm is that mean. But I certainly could be wrong. xinoehp512 - Eviterces, a person of unknown quality. Why would they hide themselves like this? Araris Valerian - Ookla the Curmudgeonly, an old man with a stern face. Perhaps evil is concealed within that stony visage. Rathmaskal - Lord Flamingo, flamboyant and fond of hopping. Shqueeves - Ookla That Watches, definitely a Tineye. Furamirionid - Furamirionid Yuln'Broael, Fura to his friends (if he has any). Aonar Faileas - Tomir Izenry, only here for the money. A Joe in the Bush - Sabine Seidel, of questionable sanity. Nohadon - Severance Greed, greedy by name, greedy by repeated examples of taking more than his fair share throughout his life. Bolded names are people I consider village, italics are inactives. That just leaves Shqueeves and Fura. @Nohadon, if you could shoot one of them, that would be good. I think as long as Nohadon is alive it's impossible for us to lose this, since with the lynch we have double the kill power that the elims have.

Well, I was just about to switch votes from Bard to Fura, but got mixed up by time zones and missed the rollover.

@xinoehp512 If you know what is going on, why haven’t you voted? We are nearing the end of the game, and participation is important.

@Young Bard I’m not entirely sold on your lynch. If you didn’t need to vote for Fura to survive, who would you lynch and why?

The thing is, defending yourself doesn’t solve the game. If we all played defensively, nobody would ever get lynched and the village would lose. I would also say that trying to make yourself trustworthy is suspicious in and of itself. I mean, I’m probably one of the most trusted players in this game and I’ve only been aggressive. People trust me because I tried to lynch Meta and Gancho (or maybe it’s for some other reason that I don’t know).

@Furamirionind, the best way to make yourself not suspicious is to try and solve the game. Anything else is something an eliminator could be doing.

Seeing as I am clearly the only living player left, I crown myself victor and sole heir to House Heron.

It’s been 3 hours, I guess I vote for Rathmaskal/Bard.

Well, there is almost definitely a Spiked Tineye, but There could be a fifth elim with 22 players.

Wyrm, I really appreciate the writeups you have done this game. They make the game much more enjoyable to stay on top of. I'm not too sure who to lynch next, but maybe Bard? His pattern of activity would fit with an elim Tineye that has only been active some cycles, and he was on my list last cycle as well. Guess I should wait and see what happens in the night.

I mean, we have a fair amount of information already at this point. If we only lynch active players, and there are elims that are sending in kill orders but not posting, then we will lose. Shqueeves was watching the thread but never posted, which means that he is active enough to be sending in kill orders, but hasn't been working toward winning the game for villagers. I really was hoping to get him to post, which was the motivation behind the mention and the lynch threat, but it didn't pan out. I think Gancho is better for now, but Nohadon could take out Shqueeves.

Actually, maybe we should kill @Shqueeves, since he is lurking but not helping solve the game. Thoughts?

Okay, so I don't think this is a LyLo at all. Orlok brings up a good point about the Tineye's alignment. If the Tineye was village then it would be worth it for them to reveal if it got us an elim kill. If they were an elim, revealing would only make sense if it were LyLo, and the presence of a village Coinshot (Nohadon), makes it impossible for something like that to be useful. This thing could be sort of a fake bus, also. Where both Rath and the Tineye are elim. But in that case, it would also seem to make sense that the Tineye would reveal themselves. @Orlok Tsubodai I wouldn't count on us having a Seeker. As for the use of the word "Spiked", I'm pretty sure a seeker scan of an elim would give the result "Spiked". So if the Tineye is village then they are just relaying what they were told, and if they are elim then they are saying what shows up in their own role PMs. It is also possible that the elims have a seeker, but since Rath denies being a Rioter I can't really say more. Coop is probably going to die during the next Night, since he is inactive. The attack strong/soft clears him, since he isn't active enough to warrant a WGG this late in the game. xinoehp512 - Eviterces, a person of unknown quality. Why would they hide themselves like this? Jondesu - Quintus, an old hat at situations like this. Makes you wonder how he lived through them to tell the tale... Araris Valerian - Ookla the Curmudgeonly, an old man with a stern face. Perhaps evil is concealed within that stony visage. Young Bard - Jendred, eighth son, and thus unimportant. You can probably ignore him. Gancho Libre - George R.D. Mackleberry. Never trust a man with two middle initials. Orlok Tsubodai - Locke Tekiel, named for a ruler of Fadrex City, beloved by all. This character is different in two regards. Rathmaskal - Lord Flamingo, flamboyant and fond of hopping. Coop772 - Burrsir, too cool for school. Shqueeves - Ookla That Watches, definitely a Tineye. Furamirionid - Furamirionid Yuln'Broael, Fura to his friends (if he has any). Aonar Faileas - Tomir Izenry, only here for the money. A Joe in the Bush - Sabine Seidel, of questionable sanity. Nohadon - Severance Greed, greedy by name, greedy by repeated examples of taking more than his fair share throughout his life. I've bolded the players I don't plan on voting for this cycle because of things they have done or that happened to them, and italicized the inactives, who I also don't plan on voting for because it wouldn't give up much information. @Nohadon, you should coinshot the italicized folks, if you are active enough to post in thread. That leaves 4 players, Jondesu, Bard, Gancho, and Fura. Interestingly, in his post last cycle, Bard puts suspicion on Jondesu and Gancho. Orlok is susicious of all of them except Bard. I'm sort of concerned that most of the elims are hiding through inactivity though. I gave people a perfectly good reason to lynch Orlok last cycle, and if he really is village, it seems like something the elim team could have jumped on pretty easily. That makes me want to read Jondesu and Bard as more village. Maybe I'm wrong, and Orlok could definitely still be an elim, but that's what I'll go with at least for this cycle. I think I'll vote on Gancho/Orlok, the latter for being an excellent villager or elim, whichever team he is on.

I've made no Tineye posts.

Orlok/Bard/Bard I remain somewhat convinced that Orlok is an elim. I'm also significantly more suspicious of Ark than Rathmaskal. Nobody else seems too concerned that Orlok was one of two people that knew Steel was a Lurcher, barring an elim seeker. If we lynch Ark and he flips elim, then I think Orlok would be a very good next lynch. If Ark flips village then I'll have to think some more. Maybe the Coinshot could be active and kill someone that we find suspicious but don't lynch? Please?

Your confidence is precisely why, when combined with Steel's death, I am suspicious of you.

I was mostly referring to Orlok's statement of certain individuals being cleared (see quote below). There was no reason to make a statement like that with such certainty unless Orlok knew that Meta was elim. The only likely explanation I can think of the combination of Steeldancer's death and Orlok's confidence in clearing players is that he was in contact with a Seeker, which he hasn't said anything about.

I’m pretty concerned that Orlok is an elim. Steeldancer told Orlok that he was a lurched last cycle, and I was already suspicious because of how sure he was that Meta was an elim. I think I’ll praise Bard for returning to us.

@Elandera I would be more aggressive with votes, it's just that I've been really busy IRL while this game has been going on. My lack of enthusiasm has nothing to do with either my alignment (I'm like that even as an elim) or my change in playstyle. I think that Ark is the person I'd like to hear from the most. He's seems to have accumulated a decent number of votes throughout the game without ever really being under the threat of being lynched.

Well I guess we don't need any more votes on Meta. I'm going to try and do some analysis this cycle of who I think would be village/elim in the two outcomes of this lynch, and I suggest that others do the same, so that we don't lose a cycle of discussion. There is also probably something to be gained from looking at the people Fifth was after before he died. Said analysis is going to happen in about 20 hours though, so don't expect to hear too much from me. Also, @Orlok Tsubodai, I don't do role swaps, and I don't have any active PMs. Sorry I didn't see yours until after rollover.

Your clearing of us folks should probably be contingent on Meta actually being elim. But I appreciate the vote of confidence :). I guess I’d say that I don’t think we should read too much in interactions with Elandera. I’m going to go look at past games to see if there are any trends with elim teams commenting after a WGG.

Hey Coinshot, we have lots of inactive players. Could you kill one of them please? Maybe the elims could help out too?

I would hazard that it wouldn't be too strong for the elim team to have a lurcher if there is a village coinshot, which there almost certainly is. I'm not going to try and guess probabilities, but I wouldn't rule out an elim Lurcher by any means.