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Yeah, right. Edit: we really do a terrible job of agreeing you know

I’d argue that he shouldn’t reveal who. Who do you think is going to die once he does? We have a village GM, let’s keep them alive for now. Just his read on whether the GM who changed his role is village or not is enough for me

Does it matter? He’s confirmed village

I thought it was TJ, they were both on Scadrial so I suppose it’s the same thing though

You pinged the wrong person. Araris said that not me

@Divergent the meta game is really all we care about. So we’re not really interested in winning the pseudo game, just making it so the meta Elims don’t win their bet. So, things to know: TJ, Hopper, Araris, and Fallen are all cleared in the meta game(Araris is a bit subjective but not too much) as for my brief summary and which parts we know and which parts we don’t, the only part we really don’t is that they bet on an Elim win(that’s my opinion) everything else I think everyone agrees with

Why not both? Gives the Elims less voting power in the pseudo game and makes it harder for them to rig the game Edit: also with TJ dead that makes it highly likely an alive meta Elim is a coinshot, and we don’t want to leave that alive

Oh, I don’t think you’re meta Elim right now, but if you are, Kit Kat has to be. If Kit Kat is that doesn’t mean you are, but the reverse is true. Its highly possible that Kit Kat submitted the order to move a vote after you change your vote(thinking it wouldn’t matter) since she would’ve had plenty of time before rollover to do so. My point was basically that Kit Kat has to be Elim if you are, and so she’s a better exe than you because she can be Elim without you being Elim, but you can’t be Elim without her being Elim as well. So I say we exe Kit Kat or a pseudo Elim

Which is why I want to vote pseudo Elims out It only works if you’re Elim. If you are not Elim, then unless someone else told you to use your vote manip to save me, Striker’s vote change is completely meaningless because he’d have no way of knowing your vote manip was going to happen. If we assume my survival was coordinated by the meta Elim team. That requires you to be Elim. If you’re not Elim and someone convinced you to save me, then you should tell us who now.

Fair enough. This game is confusing

Cad summed it up pretty well. Ive been the one who’s done the most to kill of Pseudo Elims. If you weren’t on Sel, we’d have 60% of the pseudo Elim team dead by now, and 2 of those would’ve been by me The only reason yall voted Hoid out was because you didn’t know for sure which was meta Elim and killed both of them. If he hadn’t suddenly become a coinshot yall wouldn’t have voted him out. So I’ve done the most to push towards a village victory. No one else(aside from Striker’s d1 vote) has come close. Which is not what I’d expect if the meta Elims went for a Elim win Keep in mind that Kit Kat was the one who did the vote manip. Regardless of whether Striker’s Elim, that requires Kit Kat to be meta elim It’s not like my role was doing anything lol, it was literally just my ability to vote

She’s dead here

Kit Kat because she was the thread controller who saved me and made it so we didn’t exe Xino or Me. Coco over Hoid mostly based on PMs, the fact that he was willing to be pocketed by me, he was willing to share information, etc

I only know of TJ and Lettuce, idk the 5th. Also: Cleared =/= right, so take what I say with a grain of salt

My very bad summary as follows: we have 4 meta elims the meta Elims bet on a pseudo Elim victory Coco, Kit Kat, and Ver are 3/4 of the meta Elims. We don’t know who the 4th is yet The Elim role composition includes a GM, a thread controller, a retiree, and an unknown role.

The write up is great btw, thanks TUM for keeping it Also, I assume we’re killing off the pseudo Elim team now? Not TJ yet, so probably Lettuce or their 5th member edit: also welcome Dive

Me debating whether I want to leave it to vote manip: “But Kit Kat wants me dead right now, when she wanted me alive earlier” I could potentially prove E!Kit Kat and E!Coco edit: nah, I’ll keep my vote where it is

I’m gonna get off for a while, I’ll be on before rollover to check in on things again, but if anyone wants to PM me anything before I most likely die, do so sometime soon

TUM needs a chance to use his amazing write-up that he made for this But I’ll decide later, I can say with confidence I’ll be on before rollover

Because it’s not clear. I didn’t claim coinshot, I killed a pseudo Elim and I tried to kill another. My flip of meta village proves the meta Elims aren’t going for a village pseudo win. Yes we waste an exe. But that’s how SE is. You’re always going to mis-exe someone. In this case it’s about confirming info. Once I’m exed we can vote out Ver, Coco and Kit Kat in the meta game and that’s almost the entire meta Elim team. But we’re not going to get that done unless I die first because there’s going to be people who aren’t convinced I’m village and because otherwise yall are gonna waste even more exes

Why would it matter if I’m eager? The only way it could be a problem is if I’m a newbie and meta Elim. Which I’m not btw(neither Newbie nor meta Elim) There’s literally nothing to go on. Why would an Elim want himself to get exed?

I don’t think you would. What comes to mind is the medallions from BoM (spoilers) Basically, Identity does not equal you. So no. Otherwise storing identity would not take away your personality, and since it’s not something you’re storing, you can’t tap it. edit: lol nevermind I’m mixing up connection and Identity

You somehow got the results of being a retiree, despite claiming Roleplayer for your role and having two results from that.

You’re not helping my case that I’m not Elim