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I made my first shot trying to find a Meta Elim, and my second was made trying to shoot a Psuedo Elim No, Hoid did not think that, I never told him my theory. And Coco didn’t know. Hoid confirmed that the Elim kill was submitted on Scadrial and Coco separately told me who exactly was on Scadrial C1 My understanding of why Hoid claimed to me was he wanted someone to talk to because there was most likely a mole in the Elim doc, and because unless a meta Elim destroyed Scadrial to protect me I was probably village Fallens not pseudo Elim btw, And yes, you did, but again, that was because you thought they went for a pseudo Elim win. Plus you didn’t actually get him exed

Got it thanks. so ignore about half of the original post everyone Oh, I should probably explain why I shot Xino. Because when I shot him, I did not know he was pseudo Elim, I found that out afterwards and decided that since I was already pushing for a village win I might as well go for it. The Meta Elims got to coordinate which shardworld they each went to. As such, I find it highly unlikely that more than one meta Elim was on each shardworld. Using a series of inactivity filters as well as excluding everyone from my shardworld(I will not be going into exactly how I got this list) I got a list of the following people: Araris, TJ, and Xino. I didn’t want it NK TJ or Araris as they had been pretty active and we need active people. Plus I didn’t start to get suspicious of Araris till Meta cycle 1, and of TJ till Pseudo cycle 2. Araris is cleared for me though. That meant Xino.

If Ver was killed by an Elim kill, If it was a coinshot ignore the next two paragraphs. All that changes is that TJ’s no longer lying and we don’t have a 4th coinshot running around. Im still meta village, and the meta Elims still bet on a psuedo Elim win(yes, exe me to confirm this) ——- Okay, the rest of this is just more thoughts from me. So, I haven’t gotten any PMs from anyone indicating they know my role or telling me to target someone. So unless the IM is TJ, it’s safe to say that our IM isn’t active. I still think it’s really weird that TJ’s role got changed to a Tineye. While I don’t know if he’s lying, obviously, that suggests Lettuce is the GM. Because someone had to decide that TJ needed to be nerfed, and that means either PM, Shard doc, or Elim doc, and most everyone I can think of would rather make themselves a coinshot. Lettuce was also on Scadrial C1 with TJ, so I can see an exchange happening there that makes Lettuce change TJs role. But otherwise I’m confused, I don’t see any reason to do that. Seeker isn’t as of an important role here. Coinshot and Spiked are the two real options, and most players would know that. If the GM was meta elim, that makes this weirder, as again, why not make a teammate coinshot? suffice to say that I’m confused by that and while I don’t know for sure that TJ was lying about it, something weird is happening there. Which part? Was it sketchy yes, but it got the result. Yes this is harder to reverse. But I’ve been doing all the pushing the game towards a village win. No one else has. That’s very unlikely if the meta Elims went for a psuedo village win

Note: since the GMs haven’t clarified whether Ver was killed by the Elims or a Coinshot, the following assumes it was a Coinshot. I’ll make another post assuming it was the Elim kill. Once the GMs clarify feel free to ignore about half of this as it’ll be obsolete This is why I didn’t claim btw: Once I didn’t claim M-C1, I was kinda forced to continue not claiming. I had a chance to claim again once TJ asked me for my role but I tried to go on the safe side. If I could’ve survived that, I would’ve let you exe me here and then I could’ve done my coinshot-ing in the pseudo game in peace I was planning on just sniping the pseudo Elims as I found them(I got lucky with Xino, then Hoid claimed to me, and then I figured out TJ was Elim from Coco) that said, this reminds me of something I said: Seems I was right. However, here’s some information you might like to know: 1, I am meta village (yes go ahead and exe me it’ll confirm what I’m saying) This will be confirmed when I flip, until then, ask away for any of my very questionable decisions. 2. The meta Elims bet on an Elim win How do I know this? Because I shot Xino, and I tried to shoot TJ, apart from Me, Striker is the only person who even tried to make an Elim go out. Furthermore, TJ, who I now know is lying about getting his role changed, got me out, making it so yall won’t be able to snipe off Elims nearly as effectively. I have been the only person killing Elims, and I have been stopped. Remember what I said at the beginning of the game about hard committing to a side and re- evaluating once I got feedback? Well, my feedback was TJ(a pseudo Elim) getting me exed and lying while doing it 3. TJ’s lying and most likely a Meta elim How is he lying? Easy. I highly doubt there’s 4 natural coinshots in the game. I didn’t kill ver, I submitted a NK on TJ and it got blocked because he’s on Sel. I asked to make sure, because the original write up didn’t say. But Ver was killed by a coinshot. It was not me. I highly doubt there’s 4 natural coinshots. As such, the GM must’ve changed someone’s role to coinshot. However, that means they couldn’t have changed his role to a Tineye. He might’ve had his role changed, but it was not to a Tineye. You know how all yall are mad at me for not claiming a role that has direct influence over the outcome of the pseudo game?(for good reason. Even if I did claim I was not going to listen to anyone’s suggestions on who to kill) 4. There’s another coinshot in the pseudo game I didn’t kill Ver, the Elims didn’t, so another coinshot had to have done it. That means. We have another! And again, I highly doubt all 4 are natural. Meaning we either a. Have two pseudo GMs b. TJ was lying about his role getting changed to tineye His role very well might’ve been changed, just not to tineye. I personally think that two GMs seems way to many for the village to have, and doubly so for the meta Elims. And if we each have one, that seems like it promotes back and forth gameplay, of one GM changing a villager’s role to a coinshot and the other changing it right back to Tineye. As such. The only logical explanation is that TJ is either a coinshot now, or was lying about his role being changed to begin with. However, he brought the change up. He didn’t have to lie about his role change, he could’ve just not brought it up and it would’ve all been fine. As such, the only reason I can see for him to lie is that he’s meta Elim. This can’t be the same as why I lied because he could’ve stayed anonymous easily, like I wanted to. Okay, finally, to go into more depth into why I didn’t claim. I didn’t have a reason to until after Xino died and people started to come forward(for those wondering, knowing I shot Xino was part of what made me defend Coder) and at that point, again, it wasn’t all that urgent. And once I made that decision then we started having people say that whoever killed Xino was automatically Elim. And that didn’t exactly make me want to claim. Now, once TJ said he’d received a claim, I had two options, I could come clean, but then I’d most likely get killed by an Elim in some way or another, and I’d have to listen to everyone’s suggestions on who to NK(I would not have listened btw) or I could stay quiet, survive the psuedo exe, get exed in the meta game, flip village and go back to my ways in the pseudo game. I think you can tell which one I chose. I probably could’ve gone back on the claim one or two posts after I said I wasn’t a coinshot, but after I claimed Lurcher there really was no going back.

I’m working on a post everyone but for now: @Through the living Wahr @The Unknown Medallion was Ver killed by a coinshot or the Elim kill?

Fair enough voting me, it’s not like you can vote TJ’s seeker(whoever they may be) so it’s not like you can check any other way. But again, my role here is much more useful than my role in the meta game(IMO) so if you are going to exe me I’d prefer you do it there. That said, I get the reasoning. Obviously I know it’s wrong but I get you all don’t. I also would not like to vote Hoid for reasons, there are other Pseudo elims we can vote. But for now keeping my vote on Ver works. Since no one seems to be suggesting using my lurch on anyone, I have found someone to protect(that person has been made aware btw) I will probably be on a bit before rollover to see what happened while I was sleeping, and I can probably PM for a bit longer, but otherwise I’m probably not gonna post for the rest of the cycle, I severely doubt I’m gonna have the mental energy to figure out what in the world happened.

Real, half the time I’m making up what I’m saying as I’m writing it

I’m starting to think that we may not have an IM, idk about you, but I haven’t gotten any PMs from someone saying they know my role. And no one’s been acting like it either. So unless it’s someone inactive I don’t think we have one

He said seeker

Yeah. I find it weird that they changed TJ’s role to tineye

Yes, next meta cycle

So far the only thing I have against striker is his vote psuedo day 1 I am a lurcher

I mean, I already made it past C1, without the spiked I wouldn’t have even made it this far

Well, 4 would make it 50/50 plus I’m sure someone has vote manip. Idk, it highly depends on what other people decide to do. Thanks for the support : )

I’m sure someone is in a doc right now doing all sorts of theorizing about how this changes everything

I think they’re all either freaking out in their heads, haven’t noticed it yet, or haven’t been online to see it.

No I have been. I’ve brought it up a few times myself

“We”? Pseudo Elim claim?

Mippo is their normal name, but they changed it to ___ for April fools and haven’t been able to change it back

I didn’t know that at the time? The rules as written said the action happened during the pseudo game cycle. I was asking when during the psuedo game cycle when Wahr and TUM clarified Yeah

@Hoid Slayer. I think you need to start going to Ren Fairs

Sarcasm is hard online

Fallen is dead in the meta game, she flipped already

So, for complete different reasons(partly because I have no idea what you just said, I’ll reread it though) I’m beginning to lean them betting on an Elim win

I’d prefer an exact answer because otherwise what can happen is that my role get’s changed before the exe and I flip coinshot. I’d like to know if that’s something we need to consider