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  1. Divergent
    Alive 1. TUO - Thug 2. KSauce - Smoker 3. IHAT/Broken - Smoker 4. TwinStorm/Divergent - Smoker 5. Alvron 6. Stick - Smoker 7. Honor - Smoker Dead 8. Mippo - Tineye (Village/N4) 9. Doc - Smoker (Village/D4) 10. Worldhopper - Coinshot (Village/N3) 11. Jo - Smoker (Village/D3) 12. Experience - Smoker (Village/N2) 13. TJ - Seeker (Village/D2) 14. HoidSlayer - Rioter (Village/N1) 15. Fura - Smoker (Village/N1) 16. Araris - Smoker (Village/D1) Missing - Lurcher - Soother - Mistborn These were my notes from yesterday on what people's roles were from reading it in the thread. And I think there was some discussion about someone being a Mistborn (I think Honor? Might have to recheck). I don't think Alvron ever mentioned their role, but I might have missed it or it might have just been discussed in PMs
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    Yeah, I agree, I think there's a lot we can do with the information that comes with figuring out what the distro is. I think you're village as well, everyone else I'm quite uncertain of. I'm still finding it difficult to believe that the Thug claim is real. If it is, there's still the possibility that TUO is with the elims and stole it to counter the Coinshot I think it has to be LyLo. Anything less than 3 elims feels like it'd be just an impossible path for them to win (even 3, I think is low already)
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    My mind's going like ??? because I expected the game to have ended at the end of both Day 4 and Night 4, and it seems like the idea of it being 3 elims is what is correct. I'll have to reevaluate the events of the previous day since that knowledge does change things quite a bit Why these votes in particular?
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    I feel like 3 elims is unlikely because that makes winning for them too difficult but I'm not sure. I looked at the win condition again and elim win condition is to eliminate all villagers, so if there's 4, there probably is something that makes that conclusion not yet guaranteed
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    @Honors Ghost @mippo Would you be willing to change your votes to TUO?
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    Doc and I have been talking extensively in PMs, and he's explained a good deal of things, and I'm willing to reevaluate from that. So, I'm willing to switch to TUO who is the second on my suspicion list. There is a world where the elims are just letting the village talk themselves into eliminating one of their own, and that is a possibility with some people coming across as not being proactive in these past couple hours Doc12 TUO
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    With Jo flipping as village, how does that affect your thoughts on TUO? He's one of my other suspicions and I think he'd be the type of player to also encourage giving everyone smokers Also, I'm finding it a bit hard to believe that the reasoning that it was to poke a reaction when these votes only started coming in the final hour of that day (unless you meant a reaction in PMs with the ones you talked about voting with?)
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    I think you mentioned earlier that part of the suspicion on myself is a hypothetical team coaching me on what to do. In this world, who do you think would be doing that? I'd like to ask more, why were the only options Stick or Jo?
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    Another angle I wanted to consider was that a person who has more experience with Tyrian roles would be the one who would have initiated the idea to give Smokers to everyone and at least one other person with a similar level of experience would agree with that. I'm aware Jo posted an idea that opened that possibility on the sign-ups thread, but I'm thinking only more ballsy experienced players would actually do that, and that's another thing that makes me think Doc and TUO are on this team What are your thoughts on TwinStorm and what he did or said in the past three days before I subbed in? Would you not describe the vote on Jo as sudden? @Doc12 what are your thoughts on IHAT now? Do you still read them as elim or has that changed?
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    I'm finding this super suspicious, like seriously, you've had 3 days of interaction with everyone else and then you try to cast suspicion on the person who's only been here for about 24 hrs. This feels like a very elim move, especially with how you and Doc seem to be very coordinated with your thoughts and actions, and is making me think that my tinfoil may not necessarily be off the mark It seems like you're mostly voting Mippo here because you think Doc is village. But other than that, is there anything that makes you suspicious of them? That's fair and I think I also find it easier to analyze if there's both a dead elim and dead village. That said, I'd like to ask, is there anyone in this group of alive people that you would never vote (because you think they're village or some other reason)? Also @Ookla the Broken, I'd like to ask more, what makes you so strongly village reading Doc? And @Stick. was there anything that Ksauce said during D1 that might have pushed TJ to scan them on N1?
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    I just woke up a couple minutes ago. I'll catch up on things in an hour or so
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    I've mentioned my suspicions on Doc earlier and here's where I'm at currently with everyone else Alvron - In thread, he hasn’t really said much to advance the game and has mostly voted around the last couple hours/minutes. I have seen people reference that he has talked to them in PMs and not sure what to make of that. Leaning elim atm, but I’d like to know more about their playstyle if this is typical of them regardless of alignment Mippo - Hasn’t said much too. One post, in particular, stands out to me where he speculated in thread about Mippo being a Mistborn. Outside of those posts, everything has been a one-liner and I feel like an elim Mippo would have talked about that in the elim PM and then would not have made that remark in thread. Leaning v IHAT - The vibes have been giving a similar vibe to the previous game we played together. I think there’s been an actual genuine effort to advance the game from him and that whole exchange about Fura lying feels real and not being fake. I think an elim IHAT would be more likely to come across with cold rationality. Leaning v TUO - I don’t like the D1 analysis. It feels very much just summarizing what the votes were and I didn’t see an attempt to take something out of it. It feels like something an elim would do to look like they’re “solving”. Leaning e Stick - During my initial read of everything, I thought she had a strong opening and then just kinda did not do much after seeing that she wasn’t in any trouble, which felt like elim behavior. But I looked at her posts again and the vibes are giving me villager, even with the lesser activity in the more recent days. Something I’m keeping in mind though is Doc not really giving much of a read on her and also Stick mentioning that Tineye is pretty much always going to be a village role. Leaning v Ksauce - I don’t think there was any singular post that projected towniness to me, so this is going to be an odd read but I think he’s village because I don’t think elims really make remarks about needing to be replaced in public. Usually they settle that in private to avoid the potential to replace out being something that causes suspicion on them. Will need to read more of their posts to have a more definite read. Leaning v Honor - Vibes are overall just giving village. I think her posting hasn’t looked like she’s involved in an elim PM and I do like that point she made about IHAT and Doc being sort of against each other the whole game and then teaming up. That’s been one of my tinfoils where I could see that this has been orchestrated and it’s rather interesting that Doc had been tunneling IHAT, but never really been pushing for it when the end of the day comes. But it’s a tinfoil and not exactly something I’m pursuing at least for today. Leaning v So rn, the elim team I’m thinking of is Doc, TUO, and Alvron. There most likely is a fourth one and I’m kind of uncertain who it is between all of the rest. I think there’s an argument to be made among everyone left there Also, I do feel like it’d be better for everyone to just lay out all their information. We’re at a pivotal time where this day might be the last and I don’t think there necessarily is a benefit to hiding roles or what actions people did as I think the elims already have enough information to eliminate the roles or people that would be more threatening to them Lastly, what are people’s thoughts on the mechanical side of the game? Now that we have more of an idea of what the distro looks like, I do think we can also add that to analysing, especially with identifying which roles the elims most likely stole and removed
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    I have a follow up to this theory and that is, you, as Elim, suggested to steal Tineye, so that you know where it is and keep them alive to keep PMs open And hmmm why the slot that just subbed in when there are other players that you may have had interacted more and could have a better read of? There are two posts in particular that made me more suspicious of you: Last time I was elim, I said something similar where I said "analyzing the reason why someone was killed is not beneficial" and this feels like a similar situation. I do think there's value in discussing it, even if we don't really find the correct solution because we can at least see how people approach the scenario and whether or not the way they do so comes across from a more informed perspective. And I think you somewhat dismissing that reads as an elim dissuading from that discussion because you think that it might lead people closer to finding the team In this post, you voted TJ out of agreeing with Exp's idea where an elim would try to find the power roles and yet, this was also something you were caught doing, so this feels like a rather opportunistic vote
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    I've reread most of the threads and I'm still processing my thoughts, but I really feel like Doc12 is elim. His behavior and vibe feels quite similar to the game we played together and he was elim then. Also, in this line, I think IHAT is village I'll be making a more constructive post later when I think through things more later Also, I did a little vote history earlier of the alive people, we could probably analyze something from it
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    Agree with you there. Who are your main suspicions atm? and I think TUO mentioned something about being considered confirmed village, do you know what he meant there? Also, if we assume it's LyLo, do we think it's a good idea for us to lay out everything we know so we make the most informed decision?
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    Got distracted and ended up not finishing catching up. But hopefully, I'll get to it within the next few hours or so Are we currently at LyLo and this is the final mislynch available to us before we lose?
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    Hello hello haven't been up to speed yet with the events of this game, but I'll get to it Before then, I'd like to ask for people's perspectives on what's transpired so far
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    I'll pinch hit, might in if I'm free a few hours before sign-ups end
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    It looks good. I was initially thinking Boomslugs might be a dangerous Taynix to include since if the elims have it, they could speed up their win through it alone, but it looks like Inhibitor Slugs are a good counter to that
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    Checked my availability. Move me to pinch hitter That reminds me I want to continue reading ORV again at some point. I took a break around 300~ or so
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    I'm not sure about my availability yet. Put me in as spectator for now!
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    So funny how many of us acted thinking Kas was a Rebel. Had a lot of fun playing this game. Thought I had a big brain moment when I saw Fura hiding white text as a signal to fellow rebels, but it was just a ploy to catch out people and it caught me. Thanks @DrakeMarshall for hosting! Congratulations and thanks to @Doc12, the Spymaster! We really spent majority of the PMs not talking about the game at all huh a shame I didn't get to live long enough to be recruited. And congratulations to my other teammates @TwinStorm@Hoid Slayer@STINK!
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    I’m switching to Argenti I feel suspicious of the sudden pile-up on myself and not really giving me the opportunity to say a defense. If I’m alive next cycle and anyone’s still suspicious of me, I’m open to answering any questions you may have. But for now, I’m voting to self-pres and Argenti’s within my current list of suspicious people.
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    I think you’re projecting here. I did mention that my vote was temporary and while I was suspicious of him, I wanted to use it as a pressure vote to know more about his thoughts on the game. So it did feel weird to me that there were suddenly three votes that piled up after mine. One of it was yours, where you were sort of being self-aware of being a hypocrite. Also, I stand by about what I said with reading anything from the kill being close to impossible. I say that because I host these games more often than I play and players target other players for so many reasons that it’s really difficult to have a guess on who the shooter was. I think you’ve been a little all over the place and you’re just trying to get onto easy innocent pushes throughout this game. Booknewt
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    He’s been more active now this cycle. In light of this, what do you make of that? I read the thread and I’m understanding more what happened. 4 people received messages apparently. 3 had similar ones (Hoid, IHAT, Fura) and 1 had a different one (Kas). And then there’s confusion because two (IHAT, Fura) received a different variation of the one that Hoid received. I’m thinking the most likely possibility to explain all this is 3 different senders. The one where 3 people got something similar must be from the Spymaster and a recruited Rebel because how else could they coordinate having the same message? At the same time though, timeline-wise, they would only have one cycle of an opportunity to recruit each other and I’m not sure what the likelihood of that happening. Then the other one could be a non-recruited Rebel. But also another possible explanation is that somebody could be lying, but then again, why put yourself on the spotlight? I am curious about the people mentioned in the message. Would the sender put themselves in there? And also, Booknewt being on both lists is interesting. Either that sort of softclears them (again, why put yourself on the spotlight?) or it’s the ultimate double bluff. I could also see a world where everyone involved is innocent and it’s more an outsider causing all this chaos, so that there’s a lot of focus on all this confusion.
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