Divergent

Caught up and only had the energy rn to read the Pseudocycles. I'll hopefully have the time to get to reading the Metacycles tomorrow After reading the previous Pseudocycles, I came out of it feeling really confused?? Is it the general sentiment that people are indifferent about meeting their wincon in the Pseudogame? Because I'm confused why Hoid claimed Pseudo Elim in C2 and then TJ outed himself later that cycle. Mist also fakeclaimed Lurcher as Village and reading C3, it feels more that people care about Metagame outcomes Also, I felt like social reads were kinda sparse outside of the people who were being considered for exe and I'm confused if that's just how it has been in this game, or if those are in the Metacycle threads or if those have been just discussed in PMs (are PMs open?) Anyways, thoughts on the other 11 players alive: 1. Star - Pops in two different cycles to just say that they don't have anything to contribute. My initial read of it was that it feels suspect, but I agreed with Araris saying that an elim would be more likely to give something more inspiring than that. Also inclined to townlean them based on Striker placing sus on them as I think Striker's elim (more below) 2. Striker - I agree with Mippo saying in C2 that the buildup on Myst was weird and quick, and feel inclined to believe that at least one of the three who hopped on that vote is elim (Araris, Striker, Qian). I feel most suspicious of him among the three and he also made a post suggesting a Hoid/Myst pairing while voting Myst, which feels like behavior that is typical from elims, in that they'd make V/E pairings to distance with their teammates while voting for the V in that pair, so then they could move off that sus once the V flips. Also didn't like him saying in C1 that there hasn't been much actual vote discussion and at the same time, not really offering any thoughts on his end either. Other than that, I think my reservation with this scumread is that it's weird that Striker has now voted twice for dead villagers (Verdance in C3 and Coco in C4), and it makes me uncertain if he is elim as why would he not be aware that they're dead (since they were killed, I guess maybe if they've been killed by a V!Coinshot?? Wondering though if there's still more considering many have flipped already). Scumread 3. Qian - I felt suspicious of him from the way that he was piggybacking off of Araris' Myst vote, which changed because Hoid made the same observation and he is elim lol. I feel like Qian is spewed town from Hoid angling to vote him and the position he's taken towards him at least from C2 where he was like, Araris and Striker have justified reasoning for voting Myst. Townlean 4. Hopper - He was one of two people who pushbacked on Hoid suggesting to treat the Pseudogame as a regular game, which I felt was an unpairing interaction 5. CadCom - Tbh, I kinda glossed over the longer posts. There was a post in C2 that I skimmed where I felt like it had too many words that I feel like could have been more concise for what it was saying. Idk if that's just typical behavior to expect from him. Feeling inclined to townread though based on his behavior which reads more as being pro-town 6. Mippo - The other person to push back against Hoid's plan to play this as a regular game in C1, which I felt was unpartnering. Outside of that, I have liked some of his content such as pointing out the fast wagon on Myst in C2. Townread 7. Araris - His C1 felt kinda eh, but C2 forward, he's made pushes that have tried to progress the village wincon and in general, his behavior has been quite townie. Wish I noted it down though cus I can't elaborate on it more rn, but townreading him 8. TJ - His C1 also left much to be desired, it didn't feel very town!TJ because he didn't really try to do any solving outside of mech discussion, which I felt is what I'd expect more from t!TJ. C2 he stepped up and I thought the way he approached for voting Myst was towny in the way that it felt he believed in the push and not just walking it as an easy misexe for that cycle... but then he outed himself as elim?? So like huh... 9. Kit_Kat - I've seen posts from them, but honestly they were very sparse and I don't remember any of them 10. Lettuce - I don't remember that they posted, like, at all?? Do they exist only in the Metagame. Myst said that the slot is elim, so can someone tell if that's speculation or a fact? 11. Miss Fallen - I also don't remember that they ever posted Current reads as they stand Townreads - Mippo, Araris, CadCom Townleans - Qian, Star, Hopper Null - Kit_Kat Scumleans - Fallen, Lettuce Scumreads - TJ, Striker Striker Also, do we know why only Xino was killed on C1? And not anyone else? Finding it odd no one died when Xino was a Coinshot and there wasn't a factional either I also don't get the voting thing, I saw a link to the spreadsheet on the Pseudocycle 1 and dunno if that's still the one we're using or there's a different one per cycle

Still midway through Pseudocycle Two and I nearly confused a Striker post from a Cadcom post... that neon green in their pfps are so similar

Do we know all of this for sure or is this / some of this speculation? Appreciate this, will look over this again once I've read the previous days

Hiii Was thinking of getting caught up with the game before I would be subbing in, but time got away from me I'm about to head to sleep shortly, will catch up when I wake up, but would also like to know what's been going on so far from everyone else's POV

Pinch hitter for now as I'm not sure whether I'll be free when the 26th comes Also, is it correct that it's basically two different games where the set of elims is different for each game (although some people might get randed as elim in both)? I'm also unsure what the betting mechanic is about

I'll pinch hit

I feel like it's most useful for Scenario 1 since there's more incentive to lie about their exploration to avoid being grouped together in a set of people (though I guess some might not even need to lie at all since you can be elim w/o picking the weighted option). For Scenario 2 and 3, I feel there's less incentive to lie since in both, there's only one starting "elim" and you basically hand off the role to someone else either randomly (Scenario 2) or by choice (Scenario 3) So would probably support searching players to double check if we can rule out Scenario 1 and then next cycle, we can work on figuring out if it's Scenario 2/3. Would also lean towards checking everyone, but if that's difficult to coordinate, then probably try targeting those who stated to have explored ground floor and upstairs

Is it actually possible to follow an NK? From what I'm seeing here, searching for people only reveals their search area during N0 and what items they may have. I do agree that there's some value doing that to verify if people were being honest with what they said about where they searched N0

Yeah, it's not impossible for it to be Scenario 1 and that it just happened that none of the elims in said scenario received any attention, but I think factoring in how no wagon reached like 3 votes or more makes me think it's less likely Anyways, last I remembered from the discussions was that, we would be searching for clues. Is that still what we're doing and should we coordinate it? Or is it better to keep it hush and just share what we did the next day

I feel like the votes being 2/2/2/several ones kind of implies that we're in Scenario 2/3 Also Mint and Fizz being the tied wagons make me think they're likely v

I see, can you explain more why you think Fizz is suspicious? Fair enough, it can be a difficult transition going from irl werewolf where you can see people's body language and the like in real-time while in forum, it's more reading between the lines

Is this a poke vote or an actual vote? Yeah, it's fairly common for D1 votes to either tie or be really close (at least from what I remember since playing in QF77) Is there anyone you're leaning towards voting rn?

I see. Good to know that there's other ways for us to figure out the scenario we're in, outside of the clues, which may be unreliable (due to the possibility of getting clues from a different scenario by chance) Thanks for this, I forgot to unvote Doc12 before voting Akimiko

Ohh okay, that makes sense For Scenario 2, is it because either someone gets shot or the one with the gun die if the kill fails?

- I'm a little confused with Star calling their vote on Wahr a "poke" vote when it's not a poke vote at all. I guess they're new to SE (?) I did like their line of thinking though for the vote, which picked up on the same Basement/Ground Floor thing - Currently, I'd want to vote Akimiko. I find it a little off for her to say that she's here now, but then disappear without saying anything else Other than those, I don't have much of a leaning for everyone else. I feel like that's probably on brand for D1s to be slow, especially in this format where we're not certain what kind of game we're looking it, but it'd be good for people to share their thoughts, so we can get a better handle of what their perspective is or where they stand in the game

Other thoughts I had: - I have a light village lean on Mist for being the one to initiate asking where people explored. It's well within his range to initiate things as elim, so it's not a hard leaning, but I think him doing that so early contributes to a game where people will be open about what they're doing and dissuades any elim from doing something shady - I'm feeling a light sus on Wahr for the whole Basement/Ground Floor thing. He mentioned that the mixup had to do with English not being his first language, so I'd like to hear a little more of how that happened. Other than that, I don't think his reaction to being wagoned is necessarily suspicious, since I think he's defensive regardless of alignment. At the moment, I wouldn't want to vote him too since I think he falls under players I easily misread, so I'll be observing him more if he remains sus later on - I also liked Mint asking people why they chose the floor they did. I think that helps us later on, especially when we've figured out what scenario we're in and looking into if there was something suspicious about the reasoning people gave out Also, could someone clarify what that discussion about being able to figure out if it's Scenario 3 based on the flips meant? I didn't quite catch what the takeaway from it was

I'm catching up and I compiled what people stated regarding where they were visiting N0 Basement (3) - Mist, Striker, Mint Ground Floor (5) - Wahr, Fizz9, ___, Star, Conure1243 Upstairs (4) - Divergent, Doc12, Verdance, Miss Fallen And it seems like the odds aren't that far off from each scenario being likely to happen? I do find it curious though that there were several who picked the Ground Floor. To the people who chose Ground Floor, were you interested in playing the standard game or was there another reason for the choice?

I signed up because I thought either Scenario 2 or 3 would be interesting to play, and between the two, I liked Scenario 2 more because of the survival aspect So I chose Upstairs to give Scenario 2 better odds of being picked

True, yeah, I guess we could stack our searches toward a specific scenario's clues? And the results, while unreliable, could possibly be stacked towards one of the scenarios? I guess the problem is that people might not necessarily be interested in searching for clues over trying to get items and it's still dependent on RNG.

I chose Upstairs for my exploration. It'll probably take a while before we figure out what scenario we're currently in, but I think there's something we could do with the exploration parts to speed up that process. From what I'm seeing, there are clues that are unique to specific scenarios, so perhaps we could coordinate something with that. Doc12

Archie entered the House and couldn't help, but look amazed as he scanned the interior from left to right, top to bottom. He wasn't born with a silver spoon, so sights like these were far from what he was used to. As he observed the room, the thought that persisted in his mind was that it was... excessive. Too many rugs. Too many lights. Too many hallways. Too tall a ceiling. Too wide a space. Did the rich live like this because they could afford to throw away so much money? He felt a little resentful because it never felt like life was ever fair. As he continued to survey the entrance, he took note of particular items that seemed valuable, exit points, and any devices that may be used for surveillance. After all, he was here for the greatest heist of his life yet.

I decided that my character name will be Archie

I'll play I'll submit a character name later

I'll spectate

Laughed at this Archer's puzzles slipping into Doc's dreams lol