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Yesterday at the steelheart signing my brother asked what if a mistborn burned lerastrium. Brandon answered that it would just add that power on top of what they already had. We followed up this question by asking if this is how The Lord ruler got so powerful. We got a yes and no answer. When The Lord ruler used the well of assents ion he just rewrote himself to have so much allomancy strength. This makes complete sense to me because the beads of lerastrium are the physical body of preservation. The well was the liquid body of preservation. Would it not just make sense that moving the earth and changing biology is child's play in comparison to just making yourself super strong off of the base power of the well. Like the equivalent of burning multiple beads of lerastrium? It's a total duh moment. The Lord ruler didn't have any secret trick. He just simply rewrote his spiritual web to have unbelievable allomancy powers. Like vin with the mists? It makes total sense and it's all straight from Brandon's mouth. I'll kick my self forever over this one. He was just that powerful an allomancer. His feruchemy compounding was minimal in comparison to the allomantic strength. He just used it to keep himself from aging. Which after thousands of years required more and more stored up youth compounded just to keep himself young. His body just wanted to correct itself more powerfully so he needed to compound the stored youth more and more. That's why it was so easy to defeat him once he lost the atium minds. His body was accelerating to correction. The Lord ruler never had any tricks we have to speculate on. It's just simple information.

Personally I found the book interesting. Brandon set it up to feel like a movie on purpose if you read his annotations. Plus he knew he was getting close to the plot of mistborn which is why he tried to enforce the idea that the recliners weren't revolutionaries. They were just there to kill. Read his annotation in the Barnes and noble book for proof. On the note of the professor, he probably killed all his children in the classroom some how by making the roof unstable with his tensor powers. He has a prime invincibility if he could heal from that blow which makes me think on his weakness. Probably something to do with guilt. As for Megan. Her resurrection powers make her a prime invincibility but I didn't expect her to be firefight. But it makes sense. She always tried correcting David on how firefight was more dangerous than he thought she would be. I'm guessing that because of her resurrections, she becomes a little more human everytime she wakes up due to the fact that she doesn't use her powers when dead. Her weakness is probably something like love or kindness. Calamity. At first I thought maybe it's a supernova that created the radiation giving epics powers. The more I thought about it though it didn't make much sense. They don't shine for 10 years and it wouldn't explain the evil that comes from using powers. My next theory is that calamity is some sort of epic. Shaky I know but I can totally see Brandon making calamity something more human or just a force of nature. Not a god in any way. I believe this and the reasons epics who use powers become evil is the same reason the diggers went insane. The powers come from a DNA source as obvious by the weapon industry. Maybe it is a stage in evolution, or a disease. The mind is warped by using the powers because it's not in the laws of nature. This makes the mind warp to the point of insanity and you loose your humanity. Like animal instincts take over as your soul is tormented through the use of powers that defy reality. Extra dimensional stuff may be going on too. Who knows. Brandon is using steelheart to try and get a film for it going. It's a good read but the annotations showed he wanted a film feel and the acknowledgement showed thanks for a film working idea.

So yesterday at the steelheart signing in orem I asked Brandon about infinity blade. He said the game creators will do spin off games but the story is pretty much over even though Brandon set the game creators up for a really great story. If you finished IB3 you found out that a lot of questions go unanswered and it leaves you feeling very anticlimactic. So Brandon didn't mind telling me about what he imagined for the characters. The worker was definitely an ancient deathless from like Egyptian times and he liked to wipe them away and present himself as the elder deathless. Ausar was from the ancient world also created around the same time. Brandon said he wanted to go more into depth with that sorry but that the game creators ultimately got to have final say and were trying to make a game not a story. But cool that Brandon was willing to share

To be honest I loved every moment of the book. ****SPOILERThis post has been reported for attempting to skirt the rules* I loved the tie in to our modern day world as its ancient past. The God Kings back story with his dad really intrigued me. I also loved the easy they tied in the worker as a god among gods. To me at least, the way he said so primitive when the god king was being made deathless plus the little foreshadowing when the god king was speculating how his attire resembled a god of ancient ancient egypt, I am starting to think that the worker of secrets has been deathless even before egyptian times and let the world fall to that of the ancient world from something more grand just as the god king let the world fall to dark ages. I think the worker is far older than anyone and his ageless wisdom is what makes him so powerful. I think he has grown to attached to godhood though and that is why siris is unpredictable, because he is more mortal than deathless, and has reborn enough times to make himself unpredictable. the worker thinks logically, throw emotion in there and his talents start to crumble...

So it is safe to say that tapping physical speed has limits where as tapping mental speed and physical speed has far less limits

Actually she did burn it when she heard which emotions breeze was soothing on elend she didn't hear it come from tensoon. In fact she asked him specifically if one could use allomancy to detect kandra when looking for the spy and although he thought she was about to discover the secret he said no because you can't use bronze to hear them

I wonder if you tapped enough strength pewter/pewter compounder there would be a limit to how big you would grow

Are the spikes able to be detected though? I thought inquisitor vision just worked to trace the world with blue lines outlining everything before them. I didn't think they could detect the metal deep within someones body because of the whole metal in the body is immune thing.

I believe an important understanding is that you do not actually store the attribute in a metal mind, rather store the temporal existence of the attribute. What feruchemists do is simply add a catalyst to their metal minds (charge) that allows them to tap into the temporally displaced attribute. So in theory the charge for an attribute is worthless, only accessible to someone who fits the spiritual catalyst. This is how they can "compound" the rate by which they access the attribute, because the catalyst simply transfers the temporally displaced attribute. This means that the attributes do not wear down the metal mind themselves, and a relatively small amount of metal can hold an increasingly large charge. Along this theory would mean that one of two things would happen if a feruchemist died before tapping all of their attribute. a) the charge would not affect someone wanting to add their own charge to the metal mind meaning they are completely independent from eachother allowing for multiple charges to be stored without hindrance to the metal mind. simply leaving the catalyst useless and the power lost to time. the charge in the metalmind works as a blockage to anyone trying to add another charge to it meaning that the metal mind has become feruchemically useless. A misting however could delete the metal from existance without accessing the charge and just causing the catalyst to be lost forever. If you are wondering how I know this it is because brandon sanderson confirmed that you dont actually put the attribute into the metalmind during one of his Qand A but I do not recall which one.

I understand why health would be that way, because you use up way more energy and can heal things beyond the normal capacity of natural health. speed however is very mathematical similar to weight.

Allomantic iron & feruchemical copper Copper=degree in anything and pretty awesome skills Iron= Spider-Man like abilities combined with traveling on a bike just tethering yourself to cars. More accurate then pushing yourself

I was thinking back to when vin did her first pewter drag, and she stated that without the balance enhancement of pewter she would have stumbled on herself. If this is the case, how would a feruchemist tapping speed run faster then a Thug? They do not have any increased balance powers and yet they seem to be able to run as fast as they want. Also on this note (assuming you could run as fast as you want) would it not be more efficient to tap huge amounts of speed at once rather then a little bit over a long time. If you tapped enough speed to go 50mph and needed to travel 100miles. Tapping 200mph speed would get you there in half an hour where as tapping 50mph would get you there in 2 hours. It seems to me that the ration is the same however you look at it. You would still have to tap almost exactly as much so why not save some travel time?

not to mention when wayne was using his time bubble the pewter arm was moving faster than the rest of the bad guys confirming to wayne that he was definitely a pewter arm but the koloss blood would not give him speed. pewter enhances physical speed like a feruchemist but a feruchemist has no upper bounds

It will drive me crazy

Did not Brandon Sanderson say that if a mistborn were to burn lerastrium he could become even stronger in his powers? Could not The Lord ruler just be lerastrium enhanced plus a savant using feruchemy to balance the secant side effects like storing the extra tin in a tinmind and storing all the attributes pewter offers to lessen the downsides of servants?

I don't know if that's a good tell. Obviously the savior didn't have any idea how inquisitors saw but he knew they would be able to detect kandra. Am I missing something??? Maybe kandra are bound to reveal themselves to inquisitors by TLR?

So in the first mistborn we heard The savior talking about how the kandra playing renoux would not hold up under inquisitor inspection. As far as I know only duralumin emotional alomancy would be strong enough to control a kandra and the inquisitors did not have duralumin yet, so how would they have been able to tell renoux was a kandra? Am I missing something? Also could a kandra create a true body skeleton of a dinosaur, or other creature non digestible and become one? If so a dragon or golem kandra would be pretty cool

I realize that physically it might not do much because that is pesters job. I think however that the foreign substances may be enhanced somewhat. It's all just speculation though. The enhancement group was more named by Yomen but he knew things so maybe he knew more of aluminum

So basically I will start out with asking what people would think if duralumin (or nicrosil) was used in conjuction with a speed bubble. If time is already going very slowly would duralumin just stop it completely or have another effect. But if time stopped completely with bendalloy then the bubble would collapse after the metal was used up actually being used worse then if you simply let it burn normally. Could duralumin relapse time? actually going to the point of rewinding? and would duralumin send a cadmium bubble into the future stopping your own time completely? Secondly what if nicrosil was used with another nicrosil burn and so on and so on until you have a lets say 5 times powerful burn. Could this kill someone burning a metal like time or make a pewter burner invulnerable to the point of superman? could this cause madness when used with rioting or soothing? Could it cause electrum to produce the future beyond that of atium. I wonder what the effects would be on time bubbles like I stated above, could someone theoretically jump a thousand years into the future with a super enhanced cadmium burn? Lastly I was wondering if an enhancement metal were to be used with burning lerastrium. Would this make all their allomancy as strong as vin when she was tapping the mists? Just some speculations

I think that in comparison to feruchemy the metal offers more for your buck so to speak, but allomantically it has some pretty bad side effects if burned too much. It pushes your body, and it is almost to easy to push it too far. As far as being a warrior though, thugs are in high demand. What I think pewter would most over power though is if used in conjunction with feruchemy. Pewter allows one to store speed, wakefullness, health, energy (Maybe if you live off pewter [could be dangerous]), and even strength, but compounding makes the storage pointless.

Could a spike be used to acquire another charge? Say a pewter steals healing, then use it again to steal strength? And what if the spike doesn't kill the host originally so you could stab them again to aquire another power?

Hello there. Still new to the forums but I couldn't help but speculate. So far all we know of the metals is based off ars arcanum. This was written by a character who could obviously not know the extent of the powers. I wonder however if gnats are of restricted to metals. The grouping is the "enhancement" metals after all. Could not aluminum be the metal that cleanses the body of all impurities, not just metals or the speculated toxins. Aluminum might wipe clean viruses, body waste, and maybe even cancerous cells? Aluminum is an enhancement metal after all, I don't see how aluminum can enhance if it solely destroys metals. Maybe it enhances the body's power to rid itself of impurities. Duralumin the would not limit itself to metals but other functions of the body. Could duralumin enhance the bit of preservation in everyone? Emotional fortitude, mental abilities and natural physical abilities (though I think this one might just be related to pewter and tin). All we have seen of it outside of use with metals was a few moments when vin used it standing still. I think duralumin enhances the abilities of foreign substances personally. Such as medicine becoming stronger, drugs becoming more powerful, even maybe the effects of allowance on your emotions? Obviously duralumin allows you to choose which substance it enhances such as burning a metal in conjunction where as aluminum is against will power. This is my theories anyway

I've been waiting for something like this. Confirmed or not I tip my hat off to you good sir. Bravo!

When I think of it that makes sense. I just now recall pewter steeling healing for feruchemy in inquisotors. But based on that theory does that mean one spike can steal many feruchemy powers? I recall reading marsh saying duralumin was a waste of a mistborn because you only got one power, or could this just be because external enhancements are undiscovered and aluminum is a waste to burn anyway. Hmm makes me rethink feruchemy haha. And out of all the arts in the cosmere feruchemy is by far my favorite. Thank you

I thought about this when I read it, but what I came to conclude is the accuracy based on arm movements. I don't mean to sound blunt but does anyone know how hard it would be to aim coins accurately based on the angle projected from your chest? He would have to hold the coins in his hand at the perfect angle between his center of gravity and target. A gun however only requires the movement of your wrist. Making for easier and quicker adjustments in aim and accuracy