Qianweilian

Basically, as our GM said, throwing the game as either pseudo village or pseudo elim is a legitimate strategy, if you think the meta elims bet on the other side winning.

Okay, so you're hard cleared, so I'm inclined to trust this. Who are the other pseudo elims?

Aradan Liese, Mistwarrens Aradan rubbed his forehead. He was tired after the past couple days. He walked along the road towards the hideout Thav had shown him. I probably should be watching for anyone following me. I'm so tired. He only had a small amount of pewter left, and he wanted to save it for an emergency. The buildings around him quickly shifted to the distinct style of the Smokestacks. Arriving at the hideout, he cast a furtive glance around the area. Seeing no one, he entered the hideout. It's dark; it looks like no one's home. Aradan's hands fumbled against the wall for the light switch, finding it and lighting the place. He replenished his metals and found a corner to sit down and rest. Who were those people, and how are they connected to Thav? @Lunamor@Steel Speedster

I mean, this has already been answered. If the blase is summoned, there is no deadeye to see in the cr.

What the coinshots? Myst. That feels like a really weird mistake to make.

Just for that, Hoid, 'tis great rp. (I mean, you're still dead, but it lowers the vote requirement in the meta game)

I mean, this exists (it's how I knew Hoid was in Panama)

Good luck!

Oh really? Where are you moving? Are you still in Panama?

Okay, let's look at this (sorry for my relative inactivity, I had orientation for my job). Unless TJ is lying (which I doubt), Coco and Slayerman have both been changed to Coinshot. (let's not call it converted as there's a possibility for actual conversions) Of those, Hoid is one of the candidates who may have saved Myst. Whereas, Coco didn't even vote last cycle, so I doubt that she and Myst are melim teammates. Hoid also says that he fully trusts the person who made him Coinshot, which I think would only be possible if either Hoid scanned him, which wouldn't be possible if Hoid is also thread controller, or if they are both melims. Considering the already mounting suspicion on Hoid, I suspect the latter. Hoid has also been less active (though I can't really blame him for that myself), suggesting that he wants to stay out of the spotlight. (also can't blame him for that being a coinshot) Unfortunately, this is also suspicious. Additionally, if Hoid is exed in the meta game after this and confirmed village, that gives us information, as he can tell us who's the GM he trusts, narrow down who saved Myst, etc.

You're correct. In order to know a role, Verdance would have to be retiree.

Do we know that it's the same distro as the AG? Also, pseudo IM only tells roles, not alignments, so they'd need someone on the pelim team. I'm v!leaning Striker, Araris, and CadCom, the others I'm not sure about.

I think it is the best option to gain information, whether Myst is revealed as mvil or melim

@Hoid Slayer, has @xinoehp512 ever said anything in the pelim doc? (Can they still talk in it after being killed the the pseudogame?)

I mean, he could be trying a gambit of some sort, but I doubt it

So you're saying that you lied and promised to protect Hoid from a threat you are. But it's okay because you didn't have to promise that, because you could've made a false promise to someone else. Am I misunderstanding?

Oh yeah, sorry. I misunderstood (and forgot we weren't in the pseudo cycle)

TJ was correct. Honestly, you don't have to kill. Because remember, we don't necessarily want to have one pseudo team win quickly if we're not sure what the bet is.

Here's the problem with that. We have far more villagers to spare than elims. If the elims become too close to winning in the pseudogame, it is easily reversible. Not so much the other way

I assume he means that he has a) no idea who sent it and b) no idea why someone would, seeing as (he claims to) not be elim

The bottom line is that...we don't know. I think, unless someone claims to have sent that, we should continue as normal.

I find none of them are actually that helpful very often. The anon messages introduce more anonymity into a system where (at least for the villagers) it is best removed

I'm sorry, Myst, but this just proves the suspicion I had about you last cycle. Coco's right in asking why you lied. You better come up with a good explanation, otherwise it's looking like you're metaelim and killed xino.

I'm sure the impartial moderator will prevent such an abus

How does that work? If I changed my vote to say...Wahr, does that mean instead of the vote not counting, it counts negative?