Qianweilian

I would like to point out that I was the first to vote for Lettuce, and I adequately explained my point. I, for one, am suspicious of @Divergent among the lettuce voters. switched from mippo to lettuce really soon before rollover, and, if I were elim (which I'm not of course), I would have no guarantee that lettuce would've been exed. (Especially so early in the morning for me) I doubt anyone will unfortunately, as the elims killed TJ pretty soon after he revealed he was pseudo IM. If there is another one, they're probably elim. So, yes, I agree. However, I would avoid using "conversion" to mean pseudo GM action as we have an actual conversion in play. For the mole, I doubt it was Star, for obvious reasons, TJ, because you're hard cleared, or Xino, as he's not really been active. That leaves Slayerman and Lettuce. Of those two, I'd lean towards Hoid being the mole. I agree Coco is evil. Honestly, I might lean towards 3 elims left. The pseudogame had the issue of coinshots opening the possibility of an extremely quick end (and probably at least one melim was a coinshot). Assuming TUM predicted that, I think an extra pseudoelim is reasonable. So, I would like to think we have hope. This, combined with the conversion, would put us at 8-4, which is a much better matchup. (although still not great) I mean, that could be true ig. I'm not supposed jazzed about it either though. Probably, at least, worth exeing Hoid or coco first though.

Sorry Lettuce. I guess I was wrong. I don't really love Divergent's switch from mippo to lettuce two hours before rollover though.

Okay, so I've taken another look through the threads and I'm beginning to agree with the sentiment that the elims bet on the pelims. If that's the case, then we should probably attempt to end the pseudogame fairly quickly, to avoid the possibility of an melim coinshot (which they probably have given Verdance's role) wearing down the village and potentially pushing the pseudogame too close for comfort. To that end, Lettuce.

Why were we exeing the pseudo elims again? I never totally got the logic behind that.

Tbf, I doubt the GMs expected the pseudoGMs to hand out steel allomancy like candy.

Okay, so the pseudo game probably has ~8 villagers and ~1 elim (although I could see 2 elims). So that probably means the pseudogame is going to end at most four cycles from now. I agree with Araris that we should try to exe meta elims now (tbf we always should here). To that end, I think Verdance is the best choice.

Basically, as our GM said, throwing the game as either pseudo village or pseudo elim is a legitimate strategy, if you think the meta elims bet on the other side winning.

Okay, so you're hard cleared, so I'm inclined to trust this. Who are the other pseudo elims?

Aradan Liese, Mistwarrens Aradan rubbed his forehead. He was tired after the past couple days. He walked along the road towards the hideout Thav had shown him. I probably should be watching for anyone following me. I'm so tired. He only had a small amount of pewter left, and he wanted to save it for an emergency. The buildings around him quickly shifted to the distinct style of the Smokestacks. Arriving at the hideout, he cast a furtive glance around the area. Seeing no one, he entered the hideout. It's dark; it looks like no one's home. Aradan's hands fumbled against the wall for the light switch, finding it and lighting the place. He replenished his metals and found a corner to sit down and rest. Who were those people, and how are they connected to Thav? @Lunamor@Steel Speedster

I mean, this has already been answered. If the blase is summoned, there is no deadeye to see in the cr.

What the coinshots? Myst. That feels like a really weird mistake to make.

Just for that, Hoid, 'tis great rp. (I mean, you're still dead, but it lowers the vote requirement in the meta game)

I mean, this exists (it's how I knew Hoid was in Panama)

Good luck!

Oh really? Where are you moving? Are you still in Panama?

Okay, let's look at this (sorry for my relative inactivity, I had orientation for my job). Unless TJ is lying (which I doubt), Coco and Slayerman have both been changed to Coinshot. (let's not call it converted as there's a possibility for actual conversions) Of those, Hoid is one of the candidates who may have saved Myst. Whereas, Coco didn't even vote last cycle, so I doubt that she and Myst are melim teammates. Hoid also says that he fully trusts the person who made him Coinshot, which I think would only be possible if either Hoid scanned him, which wouldn't be possible if Hoid is also thread controller, or if they are both melims. Considering the already mounting suspicion on Hoid, I suspect the latter. Hoid has also been less active (though I can't really blame him for that myself), suggesting that he wants to stay out of the spotlight. (also can't blame him for that being a coinshot) Unfortunately, this is also suspicious. Additionally, if Hoid is exed in the meta game after this and confirmed village, that gives us information, as he can tell us who's the GM he trusts, narrow down who saved Myst, etc.

You're correct. In order to know a role, Verdance would have to be retiree.

Do we know that it's the same distro as the AG? Also, pseudo IM only tells roles, not alignments, so they'd need someone on the pelim team. I'm v!leaning Striker, Araris, and CadCom, the others I'm not sure about.

I think it is the best option to gain information, whether Myst is revealed as mvil or melim

@Hoid Slayer, has @xinoehp512 ever said anything in the pelim doc? (Can they still talk in it after being killed the the pseudogame?)

I mean, he could be trying a gambit of some sort, but I doubt it

So you're saying that you lied and promised to protect Hoid from a threat you are. But it's okay because you didn't have to promise that, because you could've made a false promise to someone else. Am I misunderstanding?

Oh yeah, sorry. I misunderstood (and forgot we weren't in the pseudo cycle)

TJ was correct. Honestly, you don't have to kill. Because remember, we don't necessarily want to have one pseudo team win quickly if we're not sure what the bet is.

Here's the problem with that. We have far more villagers to spare than elims. If the elims become too close to winning in the pseudogame, it is easily reversible. Not so much the other way